mattkientz 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 Fedorov hands down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 Fedorov is the best defensive forward in the history of the league; there's no comparison. He was dominant and clutch in the playoffs in ways which all but few players even dare to imagine. To say Datsyuk will ever become a tenth the player Fedorov was and is, is silliness at best. Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say he was going to a tenth of the player Federov was. All I'm saying is I'de rather sign youth than a used up player on the decline. Federov was dominant when he wanted to be. He WAS great, fantastic, and his s**t didn't stink. Now he's old and getting older. If it's a "Who would you want back in their prime" I would choose Federov. But it's not. Christ, why is it so hard for people to move on? The problem is...Fedorov is still better than Datsyuk. Fedorov is also signed through 08, while Dats is only through 07. Datsyuk is interested in leaving at the end of the deal. You'd rather take the less capable player for a shorter period of time? Now THAT'S silliness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 You'd rather take the less capable player for a shorter period of time? Now THAT'S silliness. I guess we'll see this year. I think Datsyuk will do well, then we'll sign him long term for a big money contract that he wants so badly. Say what you will Federov isn't as good as he was, and he's getting worse. This year will show a lot. That's my opinion, silly or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mission_hockey#2 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 hey! What about Uwe Krupp??? Nah, I would want Fedorov back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kris_stanford 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 fedorov all the frickin way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 Brad Marsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 I guess we'll see this year. I think Datsyuk will do well, then we'll sign him long term for a big money contract that he wants so badly. Say what you will Federov isn't as good as he was, and he's getting worse. This year will show a lot. That's my opinion, silly or not. If Dats has a good year, I doubt we could afford him for a long-term contract. This is a guy who already considers himself equal to Joe Thornton and Dany Heatley. Imagine what he'll think if he actually has a great season? It wouldn't surprise me if he wanted the league max, or want to get out of Detroit in 2 years to go somewhere they can shell out big bucks for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slej 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 None Of The Above. I'd take Darren McCarty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 None Of The Above. I'd take Darren McCarty. You'd take Darren McCarty's for 40 games over Sergei Fedorov for 80? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 You can't be serious. Osgood and Cujo have similar career sv pct...Osgood blows Cujo away everywhere else. And Osgood is not old and washed up like Cujo is...Osgood had better numbers than Cujo did last year despite playing on a far inferior team. Osgood is a significant upgrade. Probably Holland's best move since signing Brett Hull was replacing Joseph with Osgood. hm... wouldnt happen to have seen last years playoff stats for cujo and osgood would you?? min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 287:05 1 4 0 12 2.51 109 97 .890 0 0 min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 517:34 4 4 0 12 1.39 197 185 .939 0 2 ok.. cujo has more wins, more games played, same goals allowed, lower GAA more SOG and S with a better save percentage, and also, cujo had to shut outs. so in the playoffs, where it matters most, who really puts up the stats?? CUJO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Fedorov is the best defensive forward in the history of the league; there's no comparison. He was dominant and clutch in the playoffs in ways which all but few players even dare to imagine. To say Datsyuk will ever become a tenth the player Fedorov was and is, is silliness at best. Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say he was going to a tenth of the player Federov was. All I'm saying is I'de rather sign youth than a used up player on the decline. Federov was dominant when he wanted to be. He WAS great, fantastic, and his s**t didn't stink. Now he's old and getting older. If it's a "Who would you want back in their prime" I would choose Federov. But it's not. Christ, why is it so hard for people to move on? The problem is...Fedorov is still better than Datsyuk. Fedorov is also signed through 08, while Dats is only through 07. Datsyuk is interested in leaving at the end of the deal. You'd rather take the less capable player for a shorter period of time? Now THAT'S silliness. true, fedorov would NEVER leave the wings... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 None Of The Above. I'd take Darren McCarty. You'd take Darren McCarty's for 40 games over Sergei Fedorov for 80? i gotta agree, out of the choices there, as much as i like mccarty, and enforcers, a player like fedorov would be alot more helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 You can't be serious. Osgood and Cujo have similar career sv pct...Osgood blows Cujo away everywhere else. And Osgood is not old and washed up like Cujo is...Osgood had better numbers than Cujo did last year despite playing on a far inferior team. Osgood is a significant upgrade. Probably Holland's best move since signing Brett Hull was replacing Joseph with Osgood. hm... wouldnt happen to have seen last years playoff stats for cujo and osgood would you?? min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 287:05 1 4 0 12 2.51 109 97 .890 0 0 min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 517:34 4 4 0 12 1.39 197 185 .939 0 2 ok.. cujo has more wins, more games played, same goals allowed, lower GAA more SOG and S with a better save percentage, and also, cujo had to shut outs. so in the playoffs, where it matters most, who really puts up the stats?? CUJO Osgood was playing for a much worse team against a much more offensively capable team. He played out of his mind and barely kept the scores from getting silly...the Blues were just that outmatched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Fedorov is the best defensive forward in the history of the league; there's no comparison. He was dominant and clutch in the playoffs in ways which all but few players even dare to imagine. To say Datsyuk will ever become a tenth the player Fedorov was and is, is silliness at best. Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say he was going to a tenth of the player Federov was. All I'm saying is I'de rather sign youth than a used up player on the decline. Federov was dominant when he wanted to be. He WAS great, fantastic, and his s**t didn't stink. Now he's old and getting older. If it's a "Who would you want back in their prime" I would choose Federov. But it's not. Christ, why is it so hard for people to move on? The problem is...Fedorov is still better than Datsyuk. Fedorov is also signed through 08, while Dats is only through 07. Datsyuk is interested in leaving at the end of the deal. You'd rather take the less capable player for a shorter period of time? Now THAT'S silliness. true, fedorov would NEVER leave the wings... Even if Fedorov leaves after the deal..he's still around for a year longer than Datsyuk. 3 years of Fedorov>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 years of Datsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Interesting concept that could be used to Federov's advantage during a break away - it may provide a slight burst of speed and it could also cause any D man in pursuit a slight pause in his stride Any way, if it were just for one season, Sergie would be it, if it were 5, it would be Datsyuk. Yup.....get Sergei "back'? For what a week? Gimme Pavel and 2 solid yrs. Save me a few months of drama - the other choices are a solid 'no thanks'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 You can't be serious. Osgood and Cujo have similar career sv pct...Osgood blows Cujo away everywhere else. And Osgood is not old and washed up like Cujo is...Osgood had better numbers than Cujo did last year despite playing on a far inferior team. Osgood is a significant upgrade. Probably Holland's best move since signing Brett Hull was replacing Joseph with Osgood. hm... wouldnt happen to have seen last years playoff stats for cujo and osgood would you?? min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 287:05 1 4 0 12 2.51 109 97 .890 0 0 min. W L T GA GAA SOG S % ENG SO 517:34 4 4 0 12 1.39 197 185 .939 0 2 ok.. cujo has more wins, more games played, same goals allowed, lower GAA more SOG and S with a better save percentage, and also, cujo had to shut outs. so in the playoffs, where it matters most, who really puts up the stats?? CUJO Osgood was playing for a much worse team against a much more offensively capable team. He played out of his mind and barely kept the scores from getting silly...the Blues were just that outmatched. but, cujo out of average had just as many shots a game as osgood did. so obviously cujo didnt have a walk in the park either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Interesting concept that could be used to Federov's advantage during a break away - it may provide a slight burst of speed and it could also cause any D man in pursuit a slight pause in his stride Any way, if it were just for one season, Sergie would be it, if it were 5, it would be Datsyuk. Yup.....get Sergei "back'? For what a week? Gimme Pavel and 2 solid yrs. Save me a few months of drama - the other choices are a solid 'no thanks'. I don't quite follow. You must be thinking of Hasek....he's the only Wing in recent memory who was done after basically a week.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CelticWing34 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2005 I'd take Fedorov, then Pavel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 Fedorov by far! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mangothrower 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I wouldn't mind have Mike Knuble or Wes Walz. Of course, not above Datsyuk or Fedorov, but they would knock some other players out of their current slots on the team, and a few years ago I believe Walz was rated THE fastest player in the league if I'm not mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I wouldn't mind have Mike Knuble or Wes Walz. Of course, not above Datsyuk or Fedorov, but they would knock some other players out of their current slots on the team, and a few years ago I believe Walz was rated THE fastest player in the league if I'm not mistaken. I would love to have Knuble back...Walz is a 'B' version of Draper. Good player but I dunno who I'd kick out in his favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Sean Avery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 It would have been awesome to have Knuble back this season. That is who Holland should have gotten. damn.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Datsyuk for sure, Fedorov would've demanded the max soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted October 2, 2005 I'll say this, I want Lapointe back just as much as Sergei. BUT over everybody, Vladimir Konstantinov.. I KNOW... It won't happen and I apologize if it's insulting for me to say it, but he was awesome. I often wonder what kind of player he would be now. Norris? Maybe. I miss him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites