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Hey guys this is the Griffins roster for training camp so far without the rest of the guys who are still up with the Wings. There are a few heavies on this list.(bold writing)

2005 Grand Rapids Griffins Training Camp Roster (as of 9/21/05)

# FORWARDS (19) POS S HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B. 2004-05 CLUB(S)

53 Robin Big Snake LW L 6-0 219 Siksika Nation, Alberta 4/10/84 Portland (WHL)/Owen Sound (OHL)

54 Brad Bonello C L 5-11 180 Brampton, Ontario 4/15/84 Ottawa (OHL)

42 Billy Collins C R 6-2 200 Enderby, British Columbia 11/17/81 Muskegon (UHL)

32 Ryan Gale F R 5-11 180 St. Catharines, Ontario 3/18/81 Niagara (CHA)

Michael Hackert* F L 5-11 191 Heilbronn, Germany 6/21/81 Frankfurt (Germany)

19 Eric Himelfarb* RW R 5-9 170 Toronto, Ontario 1/1/83 GRIFFINS

17 Todd Jackson* RW R 5-10 180 Syracuse, New York 4/10/81 GRIFFINS/Toledo (ECHL)

18 Patrick Jarrett C L 5-11 180 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario 2/6/84 Owen Sound (OHL)

29 Ryan Keller RW R 5-10 186 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 1/6/84 Saskatoon (WHL)

52 Jason Kostadine RW R 6-2 190 Silver Spring, Maryland 10/22/83 Texas (ECHL)

Ken Magowan F L 6-2 205 Kelowna, British Columbia 7/22/81 Augusta (ECHL)/Albany (AHL)

21 Jeff Nelson C L 6-0 190 Prince Albert, Saskatchewan 12/18/72 Muskegon (UHL)

3 Colin Shields F R 5-10 175 Glasgow, Scotland 1/27/80 San Diego, Atl. City and Greenville (ECHL)

50 Scooter Smith LW L 5-10 180 Calgary, Alberta 11/11/80 Toledo (ECHL)

8 Cory Stillman C L 6-2 211 Lindsay, Ontario 3/2/83 Pensacola (ECHL)

11 Josh Tataryn LW L 6-0 185 Orton, Ontario 7/23/82 Port Huron (UHL)

14 Daniel Tkaczuk C L 6-1 195 Toronto, Ontario 6/10/79 Lada Togliatti (Russia)

51 Mark Wires F L 5-11 180 North York, Ontario 3/20/82 Texas (ECHL)/Laredo (CHL)

44 David Wrigley LW L 6-0 200 Washago, Ontario 6/1/80 Mercyhurst (AH)/Muskegon (UHL)

# DEFENSEMEN (8) POS S HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B. 2004-05 CLUB(S)

2 Greg Amadio+ D L 6-2 225 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario 5/13/81 Col. (ECHL)/Mtb. & GRIFFINS (AHL)

4 Brett Angel D L 6-6 229 Kingston, Ontario 4/29/81 Acadia U. (CIS)

25 Bryce Charpentier+ D R 6-5 220 Temecula, California 3/29/82 Peoria & Florida (ECHL)

55 Jon Insana D R 6-1 202 Mt. Clemens, Michigan 9/2/80 Muskegon (UHL)/GRIFFINS

5 Tim Judy D R 5-10 170 Bowie, Maryland 1/14/81 Northeastern (HE)/Trenton (ECHL)

6 Nick Martens D L 6-1 195 Ann Arbor, Michigan 9/11/82 Michigan (CCHA)

24 Travis Richards+ v D L 6-1 195 Crystal, Minnesota 3/22/70 GRIFFINS

33 Clay Wilson D L 6-0 195 Sturgeon Lake, Minnesota 4/15/83 Mich. Tech (WCHA)/Muskegon (UHL)

# GOALTENDERS (2) POS C HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B 2004-05 CLUB(S)

31 Kevin LaPointe G L 6-0 181 Quebec City, Quebec 4/11/80 Sacred Heart (AH)

1 Drew MacIntyre* G L 6-1 184 Charlottetown, P.E.I. 6/24/83 GRIFFINS/Toledo (ECHL)

* Detroit Red Wings contract + Griffins contract v Veteran

Edited by Hatcher#2

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No Barnes eh?

No, i don't know what is going on with him, people seem to just not like the guy and it doesn't seem to matter how he plays.

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Physicals today... on ice starts tomorrow morning.

*edit - the schedule can be found here, about halfway down the page.

Edited by MyBigMac00

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Does anyone know anything about Brett Angel he is listed at 6'6 and 229 pounds he is a defenceman and has decent penalty minutes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=31795

I saw him fight a couple times when he played for Windsor -- he was pretty gangly back then -- he could be a good prospect. Stays at home, nasty temper but not stupid -- if he grows into his body look out.

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Physicals today... on ice starts tomorrow morning.

*edit - the schedule can be found here, about halfway down the page.

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Does anyone know anything about Brett Angel he is listed at 6'6 and 229 pounds he is a defenceman and has decent penalty minutes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=31795

I saw him fight a couple times when he played for Windsor -- he was pretty gangly back then -- he could be a good prospect. Stays at home, nasty temper but not stupid -- if he grows into his body look out.

Thanks for the Info Fightfan, do you know anything on these two guys

Jason Kostadine

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=55076

Bryce Charpentier

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=73323

Any info here would be great.

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Does anyone know anything about Brett Angel he is listed at 6'6 and 229 pounds he is a defenceman and has decent penalty minutes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=31795

Used to go to Spitfire games quite frequently when I lived Downriver - Angel is a big kid, great size, but decision-making ability in his own zone and mobility were two glaring weaknesses in the O.

Nice guy, and very very tough, but if he makes the Griff I don't see him as more than a 5th or 6th D-man.

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Does anyone know anything about Brett Angel he is listed at 6'6 and 229 pounds he is a defenceman and has decent penalty minutes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=31795

I saw him fight a couple times when he played for Windsor -- he was pretty gangly back then -- he could be a good prospect. Stays at home, nasty temper but not stupid -- if he grows into his body look out.

Thanks for the Info Fightfan, do you know anything on these two guys

Jason Kostadine

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=55076

Bryce Charpentier

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=73323

Any info here would be great.

Charpentier has a big heart and has NHL heavyweight potential -- holds his own with most and will fight anyone. Skills are limited but he still has upside and is very well conditioned -- switches well and can take a punch and answer (nice attribute). I'd love to see him develop into a full time AHL player by seasons end.

Kostadine reminds me of Bootland with less talent and a better chin. Long shot if Holland has a say.

With Filpulla destined for a full season at GR there is one less slot for a tough guy up front too.

They should hang onto Big Snake too -- he could become a Kris King type player...

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Kinda funny to see they invited so many guys...the Griffins are already beyond full..so it's likely all these invites will be fighting for 1 or 2 spots...unless Detroit decides to unload one or more of the following: Mcdonell, Maclean, Manlow, Helmer, Delmore, Rivers, Mowers, Hackert.

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Does anyone know anything about Brett Angel he is listed at 6'6 and 229 pounds he is a defenceman and has decent penalty minutes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=31795

I saw him fight a couple times when he played for Windsor -- he was pretty gangly back then -- he could be a good prospect. Stays at home, nasty temper but not stupid -- if he grows into his body look out.

Thanks for the Info Fightfan, do you know anything on these two guys

Jason Kostadine

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=55076

Bryce Charpentier

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=73323

Any info here would be great.

Charpentier has a big heart and has NHL heavyweight potential -- holds his own with most and will fight anyone. Skills are limited but he still has upside and is very well conditioned -- switches well and can take a punch and answer (nice attribute). I'd love to see him develop into a full time AHL player by seasons end.

Kostadine reminds me of Bootland with less talent and a better chin. Long shot if Holland has a say.

With Filpulla destined for a full season at GR there is one less slot for a tough guy up front too.

They should hang onto Big Snake too -- he could become a Kris King type player...

Thanks again Fightfan.

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Hey guys this is the Griffins roster for training camp so far without the rest of the guys who are still up with the Wings. There are a few heavies on this list.(bold writing)

2005 Grand Rapids Griffins Training Camp Roster (as of 9/21/05)

# FORWARDS (19) POS S HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B. 2004-05 CLUB(S)

53 Robin Big Snake LW L 6-0 219 Siksika Nation, Alberta 4/10/84 Portland (WHL)/Owen Sound (OHL)

54 Brad Bonello C L 5-11 180 Brampton, Ontario 4/15/84 Ottawa (OHL)

42 Billy Collins C R 6-2 200 Enderby, British Columbia 11/17/81 Muskegon (UHL)

32 Ryan Gale F R 5-11 180 St. Catharines, Ontario 3/18/81 Niagara (CHA)

Michael Hackert* F L 5-11 191 Heilbronn, Germany 6/21/81 Frankfurt (Germany)

19 Eric Himelfarb* RW R 5-9 170 Toronto, Ontario 1/1/83 GRIFFINS

17 Todd Jackson* RW R 5-10 180 Syracuse, New York 4/10/81 GRIFFINS/Toledo (ECHL)

18 Patrick Jarrett C L 5-11 180 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario 2/6/84 Owen Sound (OHL)

29 Ryan Keller RW R 5-10 186 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 1/6/84 Saskatoon (WHL)

52 Jason Kostadine RW R 6-2 190 Silver Spring, Maryland 10/22/83 Texas (ECHL)

Ken Magowan F L 6-2 205 Kelowna, British Columbia 7/22/81 Augusta (ECHL)/Albany (AHL)

21 Jeff Nelson C L 6-0 190 Prince Albert, Saskatchewan 12/18/72 Muskegon (UHL)

3 Colin Shields F R 5-10 175 Glasgow, Scotland 1/27/80 San Diego, Atl. City and Greenville (ECHL)

50 Scooter Smith LW L 5-10 180 Calgary, Alberta 11/11/80 Toledo (ECHL)

8 Cory Stillman C L 6-2 211 Lindsay, Ontario 3/2/83 Pensacola (ECHL)

11 Josh Tataryn LW L 6-0 185 Orton, Ontario 7/23/82 Port Huron (UHL)

14 Daniel Tkaczuk C L 6-1 195 Toronto, Ontario 6/10/79 Lada Togliatti (Russia)

51 Mark Wires F L 5-11 180 North York, Ontario 3/20/82 Texas (ECHL)/Laredo (CHL)

44 David Wrigley LW L 6-0 200 Washago, Ontario 6/1/80 Mercyhurst (AH)/Muskegon (UHL)

# DEFENSEMEN (8) POS S HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B. 2004-05 CLUB(S)

2 Greg Amadio+ D L 6-2 225 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario 5/13/81 Col. (ECHL)/Mtb. & GRIFFINS (AHL)

4 Brett Angel D L 6-6 229 Kingston, Ontario 4/29/81 Acadia U. (CIS)

25 Bryce Charpentier+ D R 6-5 220 Temecula, California 3/29/82 Peoria & Florida (ECHL)

55 Jon Insana D R 6-1 202 Mt. Clemens, Michigan 9/2/80 Muskegon (UHL)/GRIFFINS

5 Tim Judy D R 5-10 170 Bowie, Maryland 1/14/81 Northeastern (HE)/Trenton (ECHL)

6 Nick Martens D L 6-1 195 Ann Arbor, Michigan 9/11/82 Michigan (CCHA)

24 Travis Richards+ v D L 6-1 195 Crystal, Minnesota 3/22/70 GRIFFINS

33 Clay Wilson D L 6-0 195 Sturgeon Lake, Minnesota 4/15/83 Mich. Tech (WCHA)/Muskegon (UHL)

# GOALTENDERS (2) POS C HGT WGT BIRTHPLACE D.O.B 2004-05 CLUB(S)

31 Kevin LaPointe G L 6-0 181 Quebec City, Quebec 4/11/80 Sacred Heart (AH)

1 Drew MacIntyre* G L 6-1 184 Charlottetown, P.E.I. 6/24/83 GRIFFINS/Toledo (ECHL)

* Detroit Red Wings contract + Griffins contract v Veteran

uh Cory Stillman? Really? The same Stillman who scored 80 points in 2004 for the Lighting? The same one who just signed with the Canes? And hes invited to GR's camp? Woooo Hooooo!!!! Man I had no idea the new NHL changes would also change the players way of thinking like this.

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According to the message boards on redwingscentral, Ryan Barnes is in camp, and scored a goal in the scrimmage yesterday. He was a "last minute invite". Also, it appears Joey MacDonald will be out much longer than expected, and the Griffins are looking to sign another goalie so they aren't stuck with MacIntyre and Koopmans for a month or more..

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According to the message boards on redwingscentral, Ryan Barnes is in camp, and scored a goal in the scrimmage yesterday. He was a "last minute invite". Also, it appears Joey MacDonald will be out much longer than expected, and the Griffins are looking to sign another goalie so they aren't stuck with MacIntyre and Koopmans for a month or more..

Thanks for the updates! Sucks about MacDonald. Do you think Howard would be able to carry the majority of load?

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Thanks for the updates! Sucks about MacDonald. Do you think Howard would be able to carry the majority of load?

The way he's been playing in Detroit, it looks like he could carry a decent load and play well. But, since Osgood is going to be out for probably another month..Howard will be in Detroit. Leaving MacIntyre and Koopmans as the 2 goalies in GR. I read in the Grand Rapids Press that Griffins management is looking to sign another goalie to an AHL contract so they're not stuck with MacIntyre as a starter.

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? Really? The same Stillman who scored 80 points in 2004 for the Lighting

fort worth CHL

interesting player...hmmm if only GR management would dump some of their over the hill vets.

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? Really? The same Stillman who scored 80 points in 2004 for the Lighting

fort worth CHL

interesting player...hmmm if only GR management would dump some of their over the hill vets.

who's over the hill?? Travis richards is the oldest player at 35...Helmer is 33, the other 25+ players are under 30

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