datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) anybody know how igor is playing in russia so far? it was my understanding that it's possible he could be over here next year, and just wondered how he has performed this season so far. i know last year he had a pretty good finish after the slow start after his accident. Edited November 30, 2005 by datsyukismyfriend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_like_cheese_2001 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 His numbers aren't that bad, (28GP 8G 13A 21TP 12 PIM) but, not as good as he was going to be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 His numbers aren't that bad, (28GP 8G 13A 21TP 12 PIM) but, not as good as he was going to be... yeah, not as good as i was hoping, but not bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 His numbers aren't that bad, (28GP 8G 13A 21TP 12 PIM) but, not as good as he was going to be... nice avatar! lol. where did you get that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WestCoastWingsFan Report post Posted November 30, 2005 The RSL is a very low scoring league. 21 points in 28 games is outstanding. Last season he led his team in scoring. Don't stress, he's doing fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 The RSL is a very low scoring league. 21 points in 28 games is outstanding. Last season he led his team in scoring. Don't stress, he's doing fine. thanks. i'm excited to see him over here. unfortunately it seems we have an excess of his style of play (small and crafty and creative). but he is kinda physical isn't he, just small? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 thanks. i'm excited to see him over here. unfortunately it seems we have an excess of his style of play (small and crafty and creative). but he is kinda physical isn't he, just small? He's built like Martin Lapointe (5'10" 215-220lbs). If you would consider that small, sure he's small. He's fast and drives to the net. As for his scoring output, his pace is well ahead of what Datsyuk had his last year in the RSL at around the same age. Plus most of the other players in the top 25 have teammates up there with them. Igor is a one man show putting up almost twice as many points (21 to 11) as the nearest teammate. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkmoor 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 It's a damn shame what happened to him. Lets get him here next year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grigsfan 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Little comparison between Grigorenko, Ovechkin and Malkin. Grigorenko is obviously older but lets forget that for a minute: Grigorenko this season is scoring on a higher pace playing with Radovan Somik then Alexander Ovechkin did playing with Pavel Rosa, Alexander Frolov, Pavel Datsyuk and Maxim Afinogenov on Dynamo. Grigorenko is scoring at a .75 point per game to Alex O's .729 PPG. Malkin is in a league of his own, he basically has a point per game now that helps playing with ultra-shifty Chistov but Malkin is carrying the load. The stats also do not lie, there are currently 5 of Malkin's teamates in the RSL top 25 scoring while Grigorenko is the sole leader for his team in the top 25. Ovechkin, last season playing with an allstar lineup didn't even crack the top 6 in scoring on Dynamo. Alot of that has to do with finding playing time for NHL stars. In conclusion, Malkin is going to be the next Lecavalier/Thornton and will make an amazing 1-2 punch with Sidney Crosby. Grigorenko will find himself at home playing on a line with Datsyuk and hopefully Zetterberg. Grigorenko will bring the size/tinacity needed that Holmstromand Shanahan just can't provide. By no means do I believe Grigorenko will be better then Ovechkin but playing along Datsyuk he should make a strong case for the Calder. Unless Malkin comes to the league to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fightfan24 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 I think they only give one assist per goal in Russia so a pace near a point per game is good. Hopefully he can contribute here. I just thought of something: is this team not full of tragic events? Konstantinov, Bowman's Brother, Grigorenko's accident and now Fischer? Count your lucky stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 I think they only give one assist per goal in Russia so a pace near a point per game is good. Hopefully he can contribute here. I just thought of something: is this team not full of tragic events? Konstantinov, Bowman's Brother, Grigorenko's accident and now Fischer? Count your lucky stars. After Kozlov was drafted he was in an accident (weather related) that killed a teammate or friend. Apparently he was instrumental, along with the Snyder family, in keeping Heatley from completely falling apart. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 After Kozlov was drafted he was in an accident (weather related) that killed a teammate or friend. Apparently he was instrumental, along with the Snyder family, in keeping Heatley from completely falling apart. peace ya i heard something along those lines as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan27 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 just checked his stats .... 2005-06 Cherepovets Severstal Russia 29 9 13 22 12 Use these stats! | View as text i was curious , does anyone think hes ready for the nhl next season ? i been waiting to see him play for years now and im really excited to see him play with zetterberg and datsyuk if he comes along with hudler,holmstrom will fall down the chart as will samuelson or do you guys think one of them will be traded ? zetterberg datsyuk grigorenko shanahan lang williams samuelson hudler holmstrom maltby draper franzen thats what i see our "potential" line up might look like for next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 i think he'll have a strong shot at the calder but malkin does scare the crap out of me on line with crosby. Hopefully they won't be the penguins next year so i can actually enjoy watching them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 he just got 2 more pints to move into about 6th in RSL last night he had a goal(10th) and his 15th assist in abotu 32 games played so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WestCoastWingsFan Report post Posted December 13, 2005 thanks. i'm excited to see him over here. unfortunately it seems we have an excess of his style of play (small and crafty and creative). but he is kinda physical isn't he, just small? He's not afraid to get his nose dirty, which is good for us. What I really like about him is he's very aggressive around the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WestCoastWingsFan Report post Posted December 13, 2005 I think they only give one assist per goal in Russia so a pace near a point per game is good. Hopefully he can contribute here. I just thought of something: is this team not full of tragic events? Konstantinov, Bowman's Brother, Grigorenko's accident and now Fischer? Count your lucky stars. Bowman's brother? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 I think they only give one assist per goal in Russia so a pace near a point per game is good. Hopefully he can contribute here. I just thought of something: is this team not full of tragic events? Konstantinov, Bowman's Brother, Grigorenko's accident and now Fischer? Count your lucky stars. ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WestCoastWingsFan Report post Posted December 13, 2005 He's built like Martin Lapointe (5'10" 215-220lbs). If you would consider that small, sure he's small. He's fast and drives to the net. As for his scoring output, his pace is well ahead of what Datsyuk had his last year in the RSL at around the same age. Plus most of the other players in the top 25 have teammates up there with them. Igor is a one man show putting up almost twice as many points (21 to 11) as the nearest teammate. peace Grigs is indeed 5'10, but regarding the weight, you're off by 40 pounds. Igor only weighs 180, and seeing as how he's already 22, he's probably not going to get any bigger. I suppose if he got into weight training (assuming he hasn't already) and really dedicated himself, he could possibly get up to 200, but that's a big if. So no, he's clearly not the answer to our PF dilemmas. But as I said earlier, he's tough in front of the net and doesn't shy away from physical play, so that bodes well for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 I've seen his weight at between 180 and 210. At least one picture I have seen looked like he had packed the pounds on in the past year (perhaps he has lost it again?) I don't see him as a traditional power forward as he is fast as hell but he does not shy away from physical play at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) I've seen his weight at between 180 and 210. At least one picture I have seen looked like he had packed the pounds on in the past year (perhaps he has lost it again?) I don't see him as a traditional power forward as he is fast as hell but he does not shy away from physical play at all. He is not Kris Draper fast. He has decent speed. But to say he's "fast as hell" is a mis-statement. Edited December 14, 2005 by Satrebil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Grigs is indeed 5'10, but regarding the weight, you're off by 40 pounds. Igor only weighs 180, and seeing as how he's already 22, he's probably not going to get any bigger. I suppose if he got into weight training (assuming he hasn't already) and really dedicated himself, he could possibly get up to 200, but that's a big if. So no, he's clearly not the answer to our PF dilemmas. But as I said earlier, he's tough in front of the net and doesn't shy away from physical play, so that bodes well for us. 180lb was his draft weight. He's steadily increased that over the 4-5 years since. Severstal has him listed at 98KG ~ 216lb. And to note the RSL aren't a bunch of bigger=better slappies like North American leagues so there really is no need for them to embellish his weight. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnes52 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Bowman's brother? He died in 97 or 98, after the Wings won the cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 Man I'm fire up to see Grigorenko now. I hope the Wings have an English speaking tutor with him teaching him the language so we can bring him over ASAP after this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WestCoastWingsFan Report post Posted December 16, 2005 180lb was his draft weight. He's steadily increased that over the 4-5 years since. Severstal has him listed at 98KG ~ 216lb. And to note the RSL aren't a bunch of bigger=better slappies like North American leagues so there really is no need for them to embellish his weight. peace Well if his goal if to play for the bigger=better slappies in Nortyh America I'm sure you could see why HE would want to embellish his weight. I'm can't imagine him at 216. I'll believe it when I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
