Holland ready to deal?

[bringback91 2]

In TSN's backchecking portion of there website, they said that a report in the Edmonton journal said that holland is ready to make a move with Lang. I could find no such article. If true, does this mean that it would be a trade with the oil, or no. Why would an Edmonton newspaper have the inside track above anyone else. (Lazy Lions prone Detroit media excluded) I was just wondering if anyone else heard anything about this report or any other from any credible source.

[Barnes52 0]

I think Lang and Hudler are for sale, the Wings are too stacked at center and Lang's salary is a bit high. We need a physical defensman and a power forward type.

[Hatcher#2 13]

The two i would like from Edmonton are Raffi Torres and Jason Smith. Both these guys give the Wings what they need.

[norrisnick 1]

The two i would like from Edmonton are Raffi Torres and Jason Smith. Both these guys give the Wings what they need.

That's just way too perfect to come down the pipe.

The Oil have mentioned in recent times that they aren't happy with their goaltending. Same with Tampa.

peace

[Barnes52 0]

Raffi Torres is not for sale, he's an up and coming power forward star type that Detroit would never draft.

[Rice 42]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

[norrisnick 1]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

I think I'm about ready to put it in my sig.

Had Pavel came over at the age Hudler did he'd have been traded off for Macoun or Mironov at the deadline by Wings fans.

Jiri is still a full year younger than Pavel was when he first came over and your description fits Datsyuk of '01-'02 to a T.

peace

[theman19 47]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

I think I'm about ready to put it in my sig.

Had Pavel came over at the age Hudler did he'd have been traded off for Macoun or Mironov at the deadline by Wings fans.

Jiri is still a full year younger than Pavel was when he first came over and your description fits Datsyuk of '01-'02 to a T.

peace

yatzee, let the kid develop and in 3 years you'll see hundreds of hudler jersey's at the joe.

[J-Swift 0]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

I think I'm about ready to put it in my sig.

Had Pavel came over at the age Hudler did he'd have been traded off for Macoun or Mironov at the deadline by Wings fans.

Jiri is still a full year younger than Pavel was when he first came over and your description fits Datsyuk of '01-'02 to a T.

peace

Hudler is also smaller than Datsyuk, and Pavel is under-sized as it is. Jiri has undeniable talent, there's no doubt about that, but his less-than-amazing skating ability, and more importantly, his lack of size and strength, could keep him from being anymore than an AHL super-star.

Though we all knew Hudler was a high-risk/high-reward player when the Wings drafted him, and he still could be a major point-producer. But even if he does develop into the talented, play-making center that Datsyuk is, do we really want another player like that in the lineup? We've got too little muscle in the top six as it is, and Hudler only makes Detroit smaller.

I think we have to deal from our strengths in order to address our weaknesses, and right now, our strength is play-making centers. Though Hank and Pavel are generally seen as being untouchable, one of either Lang, Williams, or Hudler could be shipped out. Though I suggest we hang onto J-Will. Unfortunately, he's probably the most physical of anyone on the top two lines, and his defensive lapses mainly only come into play while he's playing point-man on the PP. And he shouldn't be there in the first place anyway; I hope Kronwall gets his spot when he gets healthy.

[norrisnick 1]

Hudler is also smaller than Datsyuk, and Pavel is under-sized as it is. Jiri has undeniable talent, there's no doubt about that, but his less-than-amazing skating ability, and more importantly, his lack of size and strength, could keep him from being anymore than an AHL super-star.

Though we all knew Hudler was a high-risk/high-reward player when the Wings drafted him, and he still could be a major point-producer. But even if he does develop into the talented, play-making center that Datsyuk is, do we really want another player like that in the lineup? We've got too little muscle in the top six as it is, and Hudler only makes Detroit smaller.

I think we have to deal from our strengths in order to address our weaknesses, and right now, our strength is play-making centers. Though Hank and Pavel are generally seen as being untouchable, one of either Lang, Williams, or Hudler could be shipped out. Though I suggest we hang onto J-Will. Unfortunately, he's probably the most physical of anyone on the top two lines, and his defensive lapses mainly only come into play while he's playing point-man on the PP. And he shouldn't be there in the first place anyway; I hope Kronwall gets his spot when he gets healthy.

Jiri is arguably more skilled than Datsyuk. If you look at their performances at the same age Hudler blows Datsyuk out of the water with his teenage numbers and up to what he's done now in the AHL, not that far off from the RSL (when the RSL isn't overrun with NHLers anyway). Hell Jiri played on Kazan two years after Datsyuk did and put up 6 points in 11 games compared to Pavel's 26 points in 42 games. And Pavel was 22, not 18.

I would much rather find out whether Hudler's a gem or a dud while in our system. We'll never get near proper value out of his potential, which is pretty damn high. Less physically gifted players have succeded in the NHL. Datsyuk has gotten faster every season, no reason Hudler can't do the same and if he gets good wheels he becomes even more dangerous than he is without them. If he doesn't become good enough to stick with the Wings we can always unload him to a team with less offensive depth.

Lang and Williams are two players that I would move. One is big, but old(er) and the other, IMO, has peaked. I think Will put up big numbers in a perfect situation, but if you look he's tailed off (4 points in his last 11 games, also those 11 games is when we've sort of turned around our slump) and his holes are becoming more prominent as the season unfolds.

peace

[eva unit zero 271]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

I think I'm about ready to put it in my sig.

Had Pavel came over at the age Hudler did he'd have been traded off for Macoun or Mironov at the deadline by Wings fans.

Jiri is still a full year younger than Pavel was when he first came over and your description fits Datsyuk of '01-'02 to a T.

peace

Hudler is also smaller than Datsyuk, and Pavel is under-sized as it is. Jiri has undeniable talent, there's no doubt about that, but his less-than-amazing skating ability, and more importantly, his lack of size and strength, could keep him from being anymore than an AHL super-star.

Though we all knew Hudler was a high-risk/high-reward player when the Wings drafted him, and he still could be a major point-producer. But even if he does develop into the talented, play-making center that Datsyuk is, do we really want another player like that in the lineup? We've got too little muscle in the top six as it is, and Hudler only makes Detroit smaller.

I think we have to deal from our strengths in order to address our weaknesses, and right now, our strength is play-making centers. Though Hank and Pavel are generally seen as being untouchable, one of either Lang, Williams, or Hudler could be shipped out. Though I suggest we hang onto J-Will. Unfortunately, he's probably the most physical of anyone on the top two lines, and his defensive lapses mainly only come into play while he's playing point-man on the PP. And he shouldn't be there in the first place anyway; I hope Kronwall gets his spot when he gets healthy.

Yeah, let's just get rid of Datsyuk, who needs any players like that who lead your club in scoring year after year...

[J-Swift 0]

I'm a huge Lang fan but we dont need him anymore. I'd like a big winger but more importantly a big d-man.

Hudler can go too, after watching him he'll never be great in this league. Too small and not enough blinding speed to be successful. He's also not good in his own end.

I think I'm about ready to put it in my sig.

Had Pavel came over at the age Hudler did he'd have been traded off for Macoun or Mironov at the deadline by Wings fans.

Jiri is still a full year younger than Pavel was when he first came over and your description fits Datsyuk of '01-'02 to a T.

peace

Hudler is also smaller than Datsyuk, and Pavel is under-sized as it is. Jiri has undeniable talent, there's no doubt about that, but his less-than-amazing skating ability, and more importantly, his lack of size and strength, could keep him from being anymore than an AHL super-star.

Though we all knew Hudler was a high-risk/high-reward player when the Wings drafted him, and he still could be a major point-producer. But even if he does develop into the talented, play-making center that Datsyuk is, do we really want another player like that in the lineup? We've got too little muscle in the top six as it is, and Hudler only makes Detroit smaller.

I think we have to deal from our strengths in order to address our weaknesses, and right now, our strength is play-making centers. Though Hank and Pavel are generally seen as being untouchable, one of either Lang, Williams, or Hudler could be shipped out. Though I suggest we hang onto J-Will. Unfortunately, he's probably the most physical of anyone on the top two lines, and his defensive lapses mainly only come into play while he's playing point-man on the PP. And he shouldn't be there in the first place anyway; I hope Kronwall gets his spot when he gets healthy.

Yeah, let's just get rid of Datsyuk, who needs any players like that who lead your club in scoring year after year...

I wasn't insulting Datsyuk, nor did I once say we should dump him. Care to read my post again? Sorry I don't believe this team should be composed of all flashy, play-making centers, that's not how you win the Cup. You win the Cup by having a team with a balance of both finesse and grit; we already have the finesse in our lineup, now we need the grit.

Datsyuk is a vital part to our offence, no doubt about that, but I'm sorry I don't feel our top six should be composed of the exact same type of players. I want Pavel in the lineup, don't get me wrong. Datsyuk fills the role of play-making center on this team, that is what makes Hudler expendable. That's all I was saying.

[dreadthered 0]

I agree hold on to Hudler, maybe when Grigerenko gets back on his guns he and Jiri could make a nice one two punch?

[theman19 47]

there are plenty of "undersized" players in the nhl who have flat out destroyed teams. Sullivan comes to mind off the top of my head as does st. louis although he's had an off year. Of course for everyone of them there's a steve kariya. Who had all the tools to be a great star but was to small and got bumped off the puck if you touched him (kinda like his brother lol just kidding preds fans)

[TimeBinder 28]

there are plenty of "undersized" players in the nhl who have flat out destroyed teams. Sullivan comes to mind off the top of my head as does st. louis although he's had an off year. Of course for everyone of them there's a steve kariya. Who had all the tools to be a great star but was to small and got bumped off the puck if you touched him (kinda like his brother lol just kidding preds fans)

St. Louis anyone? He wqas let go because thought to small-It has to do with heart. It is seen in every sport. He's still young and unless the wings get the perfect deal, hold onto him. He still is developing and leading the AHL in scoring.

[Seth 0]

Lang and a 3rd for Modin, Matt Smaby and Evgeni Artukhin?

[Rice 42]

Lang and a 3rd for Modin, Matt Smaby and Evgeni Artukhin?

They already have Richards and Lecavalier. No need for Lang.