WingNut_in_WV 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 per Eklund.... As I told you yesterday, I am working on a big trade rumor and here it is...,... They will deny it up and down, but Mats Sundin could very well be moving. I have heard everyone deny it, and I expect them to mock me ruthlessly on Leafs Lunch as they did when I broke the Hossa/ Heatley trade...but here it is..this is from an email from a very old source in the Midwest.... "As you stated before, Mats name was put out in rumors a few months ago in a very strategic way to see who would call. And at least four teams did, and this is coming from "you know who" himself: LA, Detroit, Boston and Chicago. All the teams just inquired and were told that the Sundin wasn't available. But this is a classic tactic...float a rumor, see who calls to check it, deny that the player is available, but take note on who calls. Then in the last week, through some external people, talks started up again with all four teams. Due to the way the Toronto media jumps on things they once again called on another classic tactic. Third party discussions. Basically it is like high school but it works. It also is used constantly in free agent talks before the start of the signing periods. It goes like this. Ask one of your friends to ask one of her friends if she wants to go on a date. No paper trails. Very few leaks. Unless one of those friends is friends with me. So far this is what I gather Detroit is highly interested in Sundin. Toronto wants either Zets or Dats. And Detroit wants a little more back, but it isn't that far off. Toronto also likes Visnovski and Frolov. they also like Tuomo and "The Wall" in Chicago, and in Boston they like Lashoff and Raycroft. It also no accident that all these secret talks are going on while most of Toronto is in Italy..." I have several calls out, and I had three other sources that wouldn't deny, but wouldn't comment on the record either..... interesting enough ... but highly unlikely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kattermole 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Please, no. Just no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Oh my god, NO. NO NO NO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 I dont think Detroit would even consider moving Zetter or Dats for Sundin. It just doesn't make sense. Thanks for posting, but Kenny wouldn't part way with either of those two guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Lang and a pick for Mats... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Eklund saying it is a pretty sure bet it won't happen. He'll toss out 20 rumors and when one of them pans out, he'll trumpet it all over his site as proof he's on top of everything before anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lester B. Pearson 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 That would be suicide for the Wings, can't see it happening. Zetterberg should never be in trade talks, period. Wouldn't mind Datsyuk being traded in the right deal, but this ain't it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 The Leafs have an obsession with thinking that they are going to or that in the future they will land Zetterberg. I THINK NOT, LOSERS. GIVE IT UP. HANK IS OURS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelios57 31 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Unless it's Ovechkin, Crosby, or Thornton, or someone huge... Don't ever to expect Zets or Datsyuk to be moved. If we traded those two for Sundin I would be one of the thousands of guys at the Wings game booing Sundin and Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelios57 31 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 That would be suicide for the Wings, can't see it happening. Zetterberg should never be in trade talks, period. Wouldn't mind Datsyuk being traded in the right deal, but this ain't it. Suicide is the ABSOLUTE BEST WORD to describe that trade. Man people around the Leafs really piss me off to think that they are where everyone wants to be. You guys got Lindros, he wanted to be there. I seem to hate the Leafs more everyday. I wish there was some sort of teetor-totter for a balance between my Leafs and Avs hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 I don't see this happening. I think Sundin earns something like 6.5 million a season or so. We don't have the room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 every season ... eklunds gets dumber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 That would be suicide for the Wings, can't see it happening. Zetterberg should never be in trade talks, period. Wouldn't mind Datsyuk being traded in the right deal, but this ain't it. Yeah, moving your top points getter, and #1 center would be a great idea! If true, then why do the Wings have to pay so much, but Boston has to pay so little. Gosh, this would be just a ridiculous idea, I just don't understand. Besides the fact, how does this help the Wings with what they "need" (either a tough Dman, power forward on wing, or just a tough roll player)? I actually like Sundin, but the asking price is outrageous! Besides the fact that Kenny has said numerous times he likes the forwards we have and he's not going to be making and deals upfront, let alone a blockbuster. Also Pavel, hardly fits in with the Leafs, and the only way they'd want him is to trade him somewhere else. Pull the trigger on this move and flush your future down the toliet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimace_NJ 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Dude, please. If we trade Zets or Dats I am going to start rooting for Philly instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henkka 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) What a fûck is Toronto thinking, if they want Zetts or Dats ? Only what woud be reasonable is to trade Lang for him. And that trade wouldn't change anything in our team. Never happen. Edited February 16, 2006 by Henkka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingschamps 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Lang and a pick for Mats... absolutely, but definately not dats or Z. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 i love the rumors that come out of leaf land,..they always sound like this team A is rumored to be giving up it's star young player and the future of the francise for an older leafs player who's not pulling his weight anymore. grow up T.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lester B. Pearson 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Yeah, moving your top points getter, and #1 center would be a great idea! If true, then why do the Wings have to pay so much, but Boston has to pay so little. Gosh, this would be just a ridiculous idea, I just don't understand. Besides the fact, how does this help the Wings with what they "need" (either a tough Dman, power forward on wing, or just a tough roll player)? I actually like Sundin, but the asking price is outrageous! Besides the fact that Kenny has said numerous times he likes the forwards we have and he's not going to be making and deals upfront, let alone a blockbuster. Also Pavel, hardly fits in with the Leafs, and the only way they'd want him is to trade him somewhere else. Pull the trigger on this move and flush your future down the toliet! This made absolutely zero sense, especially in response to what I posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobias 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Ok, a couple of things. First, Boston got Sturm/Stuart/Primeau for Thornton, so there's no way Detroit would be paying anywhere near the value of Sturm/Stuart/Primeau (i.e. not Datsyuk, not Zetterberg). Second, Sundin is most definitely an improvement over Lang but at what price? 3 million more for clutch goals and more leadership? Sundin's a big guy but his physical game is not much grittier than Lang's. I can't even think of a trade where Detroit dumps enough salary to get Sundin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkyBlueFish203 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Zetterberg is the one and only untouchable forward on this team. Whats up with rumours involving the Leafs and us always involving Zetterberg? Buzz off Toronto! Even Datsyuk for Sundin is not a good idea. I'd be willing to part with Pavs for a player like Thornton, and that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) This made absolutely zero sense, especially in response to what I posted. Alright boss, the first line is the only one that applied to you, so don't send yourself in a tizzy over it. Boston has to give up players it doesn't mind tradeing, while the wings have to trade the future. Besides it doesn't address team needs, so it's stupid. The rest is pretty easy to figure out. Edited February 16, 2006 by bringback91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Man, I'd trade Lang for Sundin in a heartbeat. I can't see in any way, how this would not be an major upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund19 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 No...this will not happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Man, I'd trade Lang for Sundin in a heartbeat. I can't see in any way, how this would not be an major upgrade. True but the cap numbers wouldn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.datsyuk13 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 if kenny holland EVER trades Datsyk or Zetterberg it would be the dumbest move ever... especially for an aging center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
