Rice 42 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Not gonna happen, and if it does Dats or Z wont be involved. It will be Lang and a prospect or a pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings1914 18 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 I don't care who we trade away, I don't want Sundin on our team. He is too old and not very useful anymore. He is also one of the main reasons why I despise the Leafs....Them and their ridiculous media supporters like Glen Healey... I once heard Healey consider sundin one of the best players in the league, in the same sentence as Forsberg and Iginla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 What a fûck is Toronto thinking, if they want Zetts or Dats ? Only what woud be reasonable is to trade Lang for him. And that trade wouldn't change anything in our team. Never happen. I think Mats is a tidy bit better than Langer.. just IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul woods fan club 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) i think sundin is a great hockey player , smart , excellent passer , bull with puck down low , excellent shot , leader , clutch . and if i could trade lang in a 3 way somewhere for something back to toronto along with hudler and a pick to toronto ide do it quickly . and to me sundins style doesnt rely on speed and he could play 2 - 3 years after this one . only thing i dont know about is his contract status beyond this year , if its too much than i wouldnt do cuz of cap . Edited February 18, 2006 by paul woods fan club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogeygolfer 4 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 no way because usndin is an overpaid underachiever Zetterberg or Datsuk alone are better even lang is better and lang is half the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobias 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Lang is not better than Sundin. Sundin's been playing with 4th line nobodies all season and is still staying at a PPG pace. He's also no more of a underachiever than Datsyuk is, as far as I'm concerned. If not for his pre-salary cap price, I'd love to have Sundin on the team (though not for Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Kronwall). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Hell no. Hell no. That is just stupid. Never ever trade Zetterburg, especially to the Leafs for Matts. Forget about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Zetterberg is the one and only untouchable forward on this team. Whats up with rumours involving the Leafs and us always involving Zetterberg? Buzz off Toronto! Even Datsyuk for Sundin is not a good idea. I'd be willing to part with Pavs for a player like Thornton, and that's it. They want him, but they can't have him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogeygolfer 4 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Lang is not better than Sundin. Sundin's been playing with 4th line nobodies all season and is still staying at a PPG pace. He's also no more of a underachiever than Datsyuk is, as far as I'm concerned. If not for his pre-salary cap price, I'd love to have Sundin on the team (though not for Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Kronwall). who are you don cherry? some sort of hockey analysis? Sundin has sucked balls all season 1)quinn has changed the lines up several times and he has yet to do anything 2)he gets tons of powerplay time 3)he has played a lot with tucker it's no excuse for his play Lang however has the same points (42) than Sundin (41) (in about the same amount of games) for half the price Lang's price too is post cap many people forget that underachieving Datsyuk? Datsuk has the tenth most points in the league. your assessment is faulty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatcat6 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2006 Pass. I like Sundin, but he's old. The last thing I want to see now if we do make a trade, is to trade for a guy who's a few years away from retiring. If we make a trade, it should be for a young guy who'll be with the team for a good long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnes52 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 You guys are funny...Sundin sucks? Why? Because he doesn't play for Detroit? I have no doubt Detroit would be interested in Sundin, he performs in the playoffs and has the size this team needs down the center. However, I'm sure the convo didn't get too far when Toronto mentioned Zetts or Datsyuk. The guys is 35 yrs old, he's not that old, and he's big and swedish which means he'd fit in here perfectly. Lang and Williams for Sundin? In a heartbeat, but Zetterberg and perhaps Dastyk are the only untouchables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatcat6 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I like the fact that he's a good performer in the playoffs, and I totally agree with you on that Barnes52, but the guy like you said is 35 years old. I'd trade for a guy who'll want to stick around for the next 3-4 years, and is somewhat young. Trading for old guys is something that the Wings need to start cutting out on doing. When we trade, we need guys who'll stick around for another 1-2 years. We can't keep getting old when the teams in our division are getting younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted March 5, 2006 Eklund saying it is a pretty sure bet it won't happen. He'll toss out 20 rumors and when one of them pans out, he'll trumpet it all over his site as proof he's on top of everything before anyone else. True very true!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobias 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) Lang is not better than Sundin. Sundin's been playing with 4th line nobodies all season and is still staying at a PPG pace. He's also no more of a underachiever than Datsyuk is, as far as I'm concerned. If not for his pre-salary cap price, I'd love to have Sundin on the team (though not for Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Kronwall). who are you don cherry? some sort of hockey analysis? Sundin has sucked balls all season 1)quinn has changed the lines up several times and he has yet to do anything 2)he gets tons of powerplay time 3)he has played a lot with tucker it's no excuse for his play Lang however has the same points (42) than Sundin (41) (in about the same amount of games) for half the price Lang's price too is post cap many people forget that your assessment is faulty Wow, don't know how I missed this. First off, Sundin has produced 1 less point in 5 less games than Lang. Sundin also plays the penalty kill quite often, whereas Lang does not. Sundin is a game breaker, Lang is not. Sundin hits, Lang does not. Sundin plays sound defense, Lang is a floater. Your only valid point is their difference in salary which has already been acknowledged many, many times. Sundin's been playing with Kilger, Domi, Antropov, Poni, etc etc. He played a FEW games with O'neill and Tucker and virtually none with Lindros. So, you're wrong again. underachieving Datsyuk? Datsuk has the tenth most points in the league. That's entirely my point. Sundin would bring this team to a completely different level. edit: Sundin also has 12 points in his last 11 games despite playing on an awful Leafs team. He tore it up overseas too, something Lang for sure didn't do. Edited March 5, 2006 by gobias Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CupCrazy22 6 Report post Posted March 5, 2006 Gobias you might have missed it since your telling stats from up late and this topic was up and in discussion almost a 3 weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogeygolfer 4 Report post Posted March 5, 2006 Wow, don't know how I missed this. First off, Sundin has produced 1 less point in 5 less games than Lang. Sundin also plays the penalty kill quite often, whereas Lang does not. Sundin is a game breaker, Lang is not. Sundin hits, Lang does not. Sundin plays sound defense, Lang is a floater. Your only valid point is their difference in salary which has already been acknowledged many, many times. Sundin's been playing with Kilger, Domi, Antropov, Poni, etc etc. He played a FEW games with O'neill and Tucker and virtually none with Lindros. So, you're wrong again. underachieving Datsyuk? Datsuk has the tenth most points in the league. That's entirely my point. Sundin would bring this team to a completely different level. edit: Sundin also has 12 points in his last 11 games despite playing on an awful Leafs team. He tore it up overseas too, something Lang for sure didn't do. wow, sundin doesn't hit or penalty kill, often and how is datsyuk having the tenth most points in the league your point?? you just have sundin bias and lastly we'd never take him from toronto, so lets stop this crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites