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#41 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Heaton @ March 9, 2006 - 04:05PM)
Pretty much yeah, Cross might start a game or 2 before the season is over just to validate the trade, but I don't see him being a regular.

Witt was never coming here, Salei was never, Carney was too old and not worth a draft pick.

I'd rather hang on to our prospects and picks, our fate in the playoffs doesn't rest on the shoulders of a 6th defensemen.

exactly.

Detroit is what, first in the West? who's going to give us something for nothing?


It would cost too much to bring in any name guy to the Wings.

I'm rarely a Holland defender, but think he generally doesn't do much come trade deadline because he'd have to give up too many of our picks or prospects.

#42 Draper_Rocks#33

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:09 PM

are u people ever happy??...give holland some credit he worked with what he had

Edited by Draper_Rocks#33, 09 March 2006 - 04:09 PM.


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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:10 PM

You guys are forgetting the Babcock factor. Either he'll motivate Cross to play at a level that will help the team, or Cross won't play.
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#44 J-Swift

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (datsyukonethree @ March 9, 2006 - 05:10PM)
You guys are forgetting the Babcock factor. Either he'll motivate Cross to play at a level that will help the team, or Cross won't play.

Babcock is a coach not a miracle worker. Trying best isn't really an issue with Cross. He doesn't have work ethic problems. It's just that he's always been a soft player, and coming to Detroit isn't going to change that.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (datsyukonethree @ March 9, 2006 - 05:10PM)
You guys are forgetting the Babcock factor. Either he'll motivate Cross to play at a level that will help the team, or Cross won't play.

Agreed.

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#46 HenryMalredo

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

I'm not a big fan of cross, but i won't blame holland. judging by the ways things went down, i would guess that holland felt he had made a trade to get witt, so he dumped rivers, but then nashville upped the ante at the last minute to acquire witt. so holland was probably forced to make a trade for cross to replace rivers.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:14 PM

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Draper_Rocks#33 Posted on March 9, 2006 - 05:09PM
  are u people ever happy??...give holland some credit he worked with what he had

WHAT?!?!?
Don't you pay attention? Holland is the worst GM in history! I learned that from the fans...at the parade.

#48 stevieisthebest

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:15 PM

i was hoping all day that kenny would make a good trad....this sucks
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Heaton @ March 9, 2006 - 05:05PM)
I'd rather hang on to our prospects and picks, our fate in the playoffs doesn't rest on the shoulders of a 6th defensemen.

In the Playoffs, your third and fourth lines have to be better than their third and fourth lines- that's how you win.

#50 Draper_Rocks#33

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (MoscowDynamo @ March 9, 2006 - 05:14PM)
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Draper_Rocks#33 Posted on March 9, 2006 - 05:09PM
   are u people ever happy??...give holland some credit he worked with what he had

WHAT?!?!?
Don't you pay attention? Holland is the worst GM in history! I learned that from the fans...at the parade.

WHAT!!
worst GM...were you around in 02...I would not call him the worst

Edited by Draper_Rocks#33, 09 March 2006 - 04:20 PM.


#51 J-Swift

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Draper_Rocks#33 @ March 9, 2006 - 05:18PM)
QUOTE (MoscowDynamo @ March 9, 2006 - 05:14PM)
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Draper_Rocks#33 Posted on March 9, 2006 - 05:09PM
   are u people ever happy??...give holland some credit he worked with what he had

WHAT?!?!?
Don't you pay attention? Holland is the worst GM in history! I learned that from the fans...at the parade.

WHAT!!
worst GM...were your around in 02

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#52 stevieisthebest

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (MoscowDynamo @ March 9, 2006 - 05:14PM)
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Draper_Rocks#33 Posted on March 9, 2006 - 05:09PM
   are u people ever happy??...give holland some credit he worked with what he had

WHAT?!?!?
Don't you pay attention? Holland is the worst GM in history! I learned that from the fans...at the parade.

yea i wouldnt call him the worst, look at our team!!
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#53 Draper_Rocks#33

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:22 PM

Do u guys really think holland is that bad of a GM??!!

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:23 PM

I personally think that Cross is underrated but I don't know if the trade was necessary. He does give us a little toughness, so that's good. Can't say I'm disappointed but at the same time, I'm a little indifferent on whether or not we got him.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. unsure.gif


#55 J-Swift

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE (Draper_Rocks#33 @ March 9, 2006 - 05:22PM)
Do u guys really think holland is that bad of a GM??!!

Moscow was being sarcastic I believe, Draper_Rocks.

No I don't think he's a bad GM. But that doesn't make me happy with today's developments one bit.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:24 PM

sarcasm, guys.

He heard Holland was the worst GM... 'at the parade'..... meaning the Stanley Cup Parade.

He's being funny.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:26 PM

I wasn't expecting anything dramatic. A servicable stay-at-home defenseman isn't a horrible pickup, and since I don't know much about Cross besides his player bio on TSN, I'm hesitant to judge this move until I see him play.

Consider this, though: Todd Simpson is as tough as they come and he went to Montreal for a 6th round pick. He's the guy I would've targeted for defensive depth.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:30 PM

This has to be one of the worst trades Holland has ever made. He gave a 4th round pick away for a guy who can't get a game for the worst team in the Nhl when he could have had Todd Simpson for a 6th round pick. At least Simpson would have provided toughness for the pick, Cross provides squat. I can't believe this guy has wen't from the worst team in the Nhl to one of the top contenders for the cup. What a joke.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:33 PM

Just because Holland wanted to acquire a depth defenseman doesn't mean he had to go after one of the worst defenseman in the league. And thats not an exaggeration. He has few fans and every one of the past 3 teams hes been on have been very displeased with him.
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:34 PM

Too much frickin whining going on around here. Holland and Babcock said they wouldnt do much other than add a depth defensman. Cross is a depth defensman.

Get over it already.





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