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Who was worse, Hatcher in 04 or Lilja in 06?


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#1 SDWingNut

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 01:49 PM

Since this one stings even more I have to go with Lilja. He was just plain awful out there all series long and his lumbering lack of skill directly led to 2 of the 4 goals in game 6. Close runner up is BabCock for leaving Lilja out there during the 3rd period even though he looked like a fish out of water. Double shifting the senior citizen Chelios would have led to better D than having a fresh Lilja out there. Just plain pathetic.

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 05:33 PM

I clicked the wrong button! blink.gif I meant to vote Hatcher was better. So consider it 2 votes against Lilja. Hatcher - while definitely not stellar - laid some mean hits on the Flames. Therefore he wins. (Lilja loses).
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:13 PM

I meant to say Hatcher, but said Lilja.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:18 PM

Hatcher was way worse, or hell, they were both equally bad. They both were the reason that the series clinching goal was scored in their respective series.
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:30 PM

I would say Lilja. At least Hatcher was still mean on the ice.
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:23 PM

I voted Lilja.

Hatcher, though painfully slow and out of sync in the '04 post-season, was at least physically intimidating during his short stint with Detroit. And when paired with Chelios, he did a pretty solid job at containing Iginla early in the Calgary series.

Andreas Lilja, however, succeeded in dragging down Lidstrom to a level of total ineffectiveness. Not only did he fail to move any Edmonton Oilers from our crease, but he also screened Manny mutiple times with his gigantic frame. It's almost comical to see how many of Edmonton's goals from the point came as a result of Lilja standing absolutely dumb-founded in front of our net. I am not joking when I say he did as good a job providing a screen for the Edmonton defence as Ryan Smyth did. And there's absolutely no defending his play in Game 6. That was just plain awful.

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 03:39 PM

I felt like Hatcher didn't even try.....

I felt like Hatcher didn't even try.....
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Posted 20 May 2006 - 09:01 AM

Lilja, for the reasons already stated.

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 12:13 PM

Definately Hatcher.
With him on the ice, it was basically a power play for the opponent.

Lilja is an upgrade in todays game, but....
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 12:39 AM

Hatcher for sure. I still remember when he passed the puck to a Calgary flame player and tipped it in and the wings lost.

He was terrible on the ice.

Lilja isn't the best, but he's solid and a better deal than Hatcher was, thats for sure. He'll get better I'm sure.
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#11 BeeRYCE

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE(redwings1914 @ May 19, 2006 - 04:39PM) View Post

I felt like Hatcher didn't even try.....

I felt like Hatcher didn't even try.....



Was that... On purpose?

Anyways, Lilja gets the nod for being worse. Hatcher got caught against a fast team, Lilja's just a regular bum.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE(BeeRYCE @ May 21, 2006 - 05:06PM) View Post

Was that... On purpose?

Anyways, Lilja gets the nod for being worse. Hatcher got caught against a fast team, Lilja's just a regular bum.


Edmonton was faster than Calgary was (and still is).
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 08:00 PM

Hatcher was worse.

Because:

Lilja had a stellar season compared to his past.

Hatcher had his worst offensive season, and was not terribly good defensively in his limited time in Detroit.

Lilja also at least had a stretch of solid play, while Hatcher was consistently terrible.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE(eva unit zero @ May 21, 2006 - 09:00PM) View Post



Hatcher had his worst offensive season, and was not terribly good defensively in his limited time in Detroit.

Lilja also at least had a stretch of solid play, while Hatcher was consistently terrible.



Maybe thats becuase he only played 27 games.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 11:00 AM

David Legwand put in a vote for Hatcher
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:18 AM

QUOTE(ARice89 @ May 21, 2006 - 09:44PM) View Post


Maybe thats becuase he only played 27 games.


And his points per game was a career-low.

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#17 Vladdycupwinner

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 06:09 AM

I seen no option for both [hehe] so I voted Hatcher sucks.

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 04:18 PM

i went with lilja. hatch was injured most of the year with the wings. also, he was one of our top defensive guys against the flames. i would like to see most of you come back with a acl injury and be normal. lilja was healthy majority of the season.

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 02:19 PM

I voted hatcher because at least lilja played the entire season hatcher only played 5 or 10 games for us and after the knee injury just didnt seem to be the same
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 08:36 PM

Hatcher was worse.

Hatcher was paid more to such worse. Lilija is showing promise though he has put up a lot of Penelty minutes which will give Babcock the impression that he is a very tough cookie. Infact the penelty minutes has brought Holland to the table to waste a good portion of money on this very promising defence man who is going to suck for along time to come. Hudler should start sticking people and cause some third period shorthanded oppertunites to blow a couple of games. It sure would show Babcock what a bad ass he is, and prove a value to the team.

PS. I like Hudler and really think Babcock should give him a chance.





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