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33 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Who has the higher potential Kasper or Danielson? What is their floors/ceilings?

Danielson will definitely score more. He’s a much more natural skill player and his shot is way better. Marco creates a ton but his finishing is bad. That said, he’s probably going to be a better defender and should be able to do a lot of heavy lifting against other teams’ top players. 

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7 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Super duper strong game from Marco. Damn

Why I asked the question. I think we have 2 future top 6 forwards here. Danielson is the likely c and move Kasper to w. Id like to see Kasper on Larkins wing along with Raymond next season. Danielson may need some time to adjust to pro hockey but should be the top c in GR to start next season.

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3 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Why I asked the question. I think we have 2 future top 6 forwards here. Danielson is the likely c and move Kasper to w. Id like to see Kasper on Larkins wing along with Raymond next season. Danielson may need some time to adjust to pro hockey but should be the top c in GR to start next season.

I don’t think this is too far fetched. Whether or not Marco plays down the middle long term I think it’s likely he breaks into the nhl on the wing…perhaps as soon as next season.

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Lombardi is in complete control of his own destiny.  He skates all the time and is in the play all the time.  End board to end board.  He just isnt strong enough right now.  If he gains 30 lbs of muscle and can be tougher on the puck and battle, he's going to be fantastic.

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1 hour ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Lombardi is in complete control of his own destiny.  He skates all the time and is in the play all the time.  End board to end board.  He just isnt strong enough right now.  If he gains 30 lbs of muscle and can be tougher on the puck and battle, he's going to be fantastic.

100%

He doesn't ever need to be huge, but if he can get as strong as Helm or Glendening he'll be a really really good NHL player. He's got all the talent in the world. 5'11, 190 lbs isn't unrealistic for this guy and if he can get there he's going to have a career.

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We were badly out shot that game. While I don't put too much stock in the "shots tell the whole story" approach to analyzing hockey, I do think Cossa was the difference in that one. We're going to need to clean up our game a little before Game 2. We looked pretty sloppy with the puck at times.

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1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

We were badly out shot that game. While I don't put too much stock in the "shots tell the whole story" approach to analyzing hockey, I do think Cossa was the difference in that one. We're going to need to clean up our game a little before Game 2. We looked pretty sloppy with the puck at times.

Cossa has a couple things to work on before he's complete.  I've watched about 10-15 games of his now (not a huge sample), and the only things I've seen that need immediate improvement before he goes super sayan into his best form are 1) his rebound control and 2) his recovery time.  The guy is an absolute beast and gets in the way of the 1st shot every time.  He is always in a great position for the first shot, so the ones that go in on him are only the REAL flukey ones that he can't see or get directed.  He doesn't have those mental lapses where an average snap shot from 40 feet that he's had 2 seconds to prepare for go under his glove.  Husso has been plagued by those "stinkers" his entire time with us.  I've only seen Cossa give up one of those, and it was only because the guy fired the shot from a weird spot along the boards and surprised Cossa.  But the 2nd shot is another story.  Shots that hit Cossa's pads find their way to the dots far too often instead of finding their way to the corners.  The skill level in the NHL allows the shooters to fire low at the off pad to create juicy rebounds far more than it does at the AHL level.  And Cossa seems to give up too many tasty rebounds that NHLers will put in almost every time.  He needs to learn to direct the puck to steeper angle rebound opportunities.  2ndly, his first movement from side to side is incredible.  It's not fast, but he's so big that it seems like he can move across the net in a nanosecond.  But when the puck goes back the other way, it takes him FOREVER to get back across.  That's something he can fix with strength training and repetition in his flexibility drills, though.  As he matures in his body and gets stronger, this should help itself out.  Outside of those 2 things, this cat is the real deal.  He's an animal.  He hates losing, but he has that ability to put things in the past and play his best going forward.  That's a good trait for our goalie to have, as we seem to fall behind a lot.  We need a mentally strong goalie that will right the ship and allow us to come back on other teams.  Excited to see Cossa get some NHL experience.  

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38 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Cossa has a couple things to work on before he's complete.  I've watched about 10-15 games of his now (not a huge sample), and the only things I've seen that need immediate improvement before he goes super sayan into his best form are 1) his rebound control and 2) his recovery time.  The guy is an absolute beast and gets in the way of the 1st shot every time.  He is always in a great position for the first shot, so the ones that go in on him are only the REAL flukey ones that he can't see or get directed.  He doesn't have those mental lapses where an average snap shot from 40 feet that he's had 2 seconds to prepare for go under his glove.  Husso has been plagued by those "stinkers" his entire time with us.  I've only seen Cossa give up one of those, and it was only because the guy fired the shot from a weird spot along the boards and surprised Cossa.  But the 2nd shot is another story.  Shots that hit Cossa's pads find their way to the dots far too often instead of finding their way to the corners.  The skill level in the NHL allows the shooters to fire low at the off pad to create juicy rebounds far more than it does at the AHL level.  And Cossa seems to give up too many tasty rebounds that NHLers will put in almost every time.  He needs to learn to direct the puck to steeper angle rebound opportunities.  2ndly, his first movement from side to side is incredible.  It's not fast, but he's so big that it seems like he can move across the net in a nanosecond.  But when the puck goes back the other way, it takes him FOREVER to get back across.  That's something he can fix with strength training and repetition in his flexibility drills, though.  As he matures in his body and gets stronger, this should help itself out.  Outside of those 2 things, this cat is the real deal.  He's an animal.  He hates losing, but he has that ability to put things in the past and play his best going forward.  That's a good trait for our goalie to have, as we seem to fall behind a lot.  We need a mentally strong goalie that will right the ship and allow us to come back on other teams.  Excited to see Cossa get some NHL experience.  

I'll leave the goalie analysis up to you. I'm out of my depth on that. The only thing I'd add is that it seems like a big part of playing the goalie position is just experience. Knowing what to do, when to do it, and what to expect from the opposition seems just as (or more) important as developing the physical tools. For skaters it's almost the opposite. If you're Taro Hirose you're never going to see NHL time because despite your experience you'll never have the physical skill to play in the NHL. For goalies is different. Your body can be more than ready, but until you've had the reps you're just not going to be any good against pro shooters.

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3 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'll leave the goalie analysis up to you. I'm out of my depth on that. The only thing I'd add is that it seems like a big part of playing the goalie position is just experience. Knowing what to do, when to do it, and what to expect from the opposition seems just as (or more) important as developing the physical tools. For skaters it's almost the opposite. If you're Taro Hirose you're never going to see NHL time because despite your experience you'll never have the physical skill to play in the NHL. For goalies is different. Your body can be more than ready, but until you've had the reps you're just not going to be any good against pro shooters.

100%.  Cossa is probably going to struggle for a year in the NHL, but if everyone doesn't go full regard, they'll realize that the Redwings/SCAM just groomed an NHL goalie in 3 years and he's 22 freaking years old.  That's an incredible feat.  Most goalies aren't ready for NHL action until they're 26-28 years old, and most of them that do come up at that age aren't carrying all the accolades that Cossa already has at 21 years old.  That's the thing that amuses me about Cossa.  I find it funny how all the "Good Players" keep ending up on his team.  He keeps ending up on teams that are making deep playoff runs with all the "Good Players".  Wait until he wins a cup for us.  We'll have all the "Good Players", I'm sure.  

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Admirals finished 3rd in the regular season.  We carried the play on them last night for all but 7 or 8 minutes of the game.  I dont see us losing this series unless a complete bed shetting experience happens.  Edvinsson-Johansson is solid minus one gaff they had letting a breakaway goal get between them.  Tuomisto and Simek looked defensively sound.  Didier and Wallinder gave up the most pressure.  They are the weak link right now.  Our centers are all good 200' guys.  Thats a huge noticeable advantage that we havent developed at the NHL level.  Larkin goes hard 200', but our other centers just dont have that gas pedal floored up and down.  Czarnik, Kasper, and Lombardi all go balls out.  Theyre not the toughest in 50/50 battles, but they all at least get in the way.  This series might only go 3.

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6 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

100%.  Cossa is probably going to struggle for a year in the NHL, but if everyone doesn't go full regard, they'll realize that the Redwings/SCAM just groomed an NHL goalie in 3 years and he's 22 freaking years old.  That's an incredible feat.  Most goalies aren't ready for NHL action until they're 26-28 years old, and most of them that do come up at that age aren't carrying all the accolades that Cossa already has at 21 years old.  That's the thing that amuses me about Cossa.  I find it funny how all the "Good Players" keep ending up on his team.  He keeps ending up on teams that are making deep playoff runs with all the "Good Players".  Wait until he wins a cup for us.  We'll have all the "Good Players", I'm sure.  

There’s something to this. All season long he’s played head to head against peers Wallstedt and Askarov in the same AHL conference. Wallstedt’s team sucked, but when you watch us play Iowa he was regularly getting beat clean by our shooters. So was Iowa bad because their star goalie couldn’t make saves? Similarly, Milwaukee is a “good” team and Askarov isn’t starting for them in the playoffs, so clearly they think they’re better without him in net. Cossa’s the only one of the three that’s the top goaltender on a good team. 

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2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

There’s something to this. All season long he’s played head to head against peers Wallstedt and Askarov in the same AHL conference. Wallstedt’s team sucked, but when you watch us play Iowa he was regularly getting beat clean by our shooters. So was Iowa bad because their star goalie couldn’t make saves? Similarly, Milwaukee is a “good” team and Askarov isn’t starting for them in the playoffs, so clearly they think they’re better without him in net. Cossa’s the only one of the three that’s the top goaltender on a good team. 

And the team wasnt really doing well during the regular season until Cossa took over starting duties.  He's a winner.

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8 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

And the team wasnt really doing well during the regular season until Cossa took over starting duties.  He's a winner.

That's true, but it wasn't just him. I commented on this throughout the season but it wasn't until Watson elevated the young guys into key positions that the Griffins started winning. Early in the season he deferred a lot to the veterans, which is understandable for a rookie coach. But part way through the season you started to see Kasper, Mazur, Johansson, Lombardi, and Cossa climbing the depth chart and veteran players taking on support roles. That's when the team took off.

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