Rumor:Antropov to Detroit

[Grind_Lines_#1_Fan 0]

Forget, Antropov lets get Anson Carter here quick. The only thing wrong with him is he was a spartan, but I don't hold a grudge.

[Fingercots 6]

isnt this an annual occurance?

im pretty sure ive seen threads about whether the wings should try to get antropov every off season since hes been in the NHL.

if the wings can get him for a 3rd rounder, i think its worth it. but anything more than that and it wont be a good deal. frankly, i dont think this is going to happen.

[up2here 41]

Forget, Antropov lets get Anson Carter here quick. The only thing wrong with him is he was a spartan, but I don't hold a grudge.

I'm so glad most you arent our GM.Theres a reason Anson Carter has played for 6 teams(going on 7) in his career.He's just a soft as Antropov and softer than Lang.I'll take a pass on both.

[superstarsingh 23]

Forget, Antropov lets get Anson Carter here quick. The only thing wrong with him is he was a spartan, but I don't hold a grudge.

Anson Carter is CRAP. He wants money he does not deserve, screw him. The Leafs want Carter, let them have him.

[Guest ZetterBurger40]

I'll bet Antropov wouldn't have half as bad of a reputation as he does if he didn't play in the Euro-hating Mecca of Don Cherry.

[bogeygolfer 4]

why not sign carter ourselves???

seriously this is a horrible move

[superstarsingh 23]

why not sign carter ourselves???

seriously this is a horrible move

Could it be because he sucks? Because he is unable to stay on a team? Or because he wants 1.5 to 2 million more than he is really worth? Anson Carter would be terrible. If we're signing someone it should be Nolan because he is cheaper and brings waaaay more to the table than Carter does. It is not going to kill us to give up a pick to get Nik. Id prefer to get him for futures but whatever.

He will do much better for the Wings.

[TheUkrainian 49]

Carter is overrated, if he were to hit a lot more, then I'd consider liking him, but he doesn't. Getting Nik would be nice since hes cheap and would still leave us enough $ to get Nolan and usually 2 is better than 1 eh?

[J-Swift 0]

I'll bet Antropov wouldn't have half as bad of a reputation as he does if he didn't play in the Euro-hating Mecca of Don Cherry.

Most Leaf fans absolutely love Mats Sundin. The reason they hate Antropov is because he was a very hyped prospect (drafted 10th overall in '98), but he hasn't done a thing for them.

[superstarsingh 23]

I'll bet Antropov wouldn't have half as bad of a reputation as he does if he didn't play in the Euro-hating Mecca of Don Cherry.

Don Cherry is a clown. I have watched him my entire life on HNIC and I despise the way he rags on the Europeans. He calls Ponikerovsky "Pochonsky." Hell, he is the same way he is in person as he is on tv. I met him and we talked a bit about the Wings and he went on to bash the fact that the Wings have too many europeans...blah, blach, blah. He has belittled Nik thorought his career in Toronto. I agree that if Nik left Toronto and didnt have Cherry on his back all would be well.

Most Leaf fans absolutely love Mats Sundin. The reason they hate Antropov is because he was a very hyped prospect (drafted 10th overall in '98), but he hasn't done a thing for them.

He does not like Ponikerovsky or Antropov. Yet those two guys did well playing with Mats last season. He hated Berezin when he was there too.

Edited August 4, 2006 by superstarsingh

[Asia13 0]

You know what, if this rumour is true, I say we spice it up a little bit.

Maltby & 3rd Round Pick for Antropov & 4th round pick (or a smaller pick if needed)

This way it opens up a spot for Bootland to play which also sheds a little bit of salary as well. If we're going to give Kopecky and Hudler a shot, why not give Bootland one as well? Assuming Bootland is good enough to at least play Maltby's role on the team.

If we're just going to take Antropov for a 3rd rounder, than no thanks. We don't need 2 lazy players on our team. I will however, just do the Maltby trade.

That's my 2 cents

[superstarsingh 23]

You know what, if this rumour is true, I say we spice it up a little bit.

Maltby & 3rd Round Pick for Antropov & 4th round pick (or a smaller pick if needed)

This way it opens up a spot for Bootland to play which also sheds a little bit of salary as well. If we're going to give Kopecky and Hudler a shot, why not give Bootland one as well? Assuming Bootland is good enough to at least play Maltby's role on the team.

If we're just going to take Antropov for a 3rd rounder, than no thanks. We don't need 2 lazy players on our team. I will however, just do the Maltby trade.

That's my 2 cents

Your two cents are invalid. Maltby should not be traded. He is one of the hardest workers we have. Now as for the Leafs taking the trade they wont. If we got Antropov it would have to be for a pick or for futures because they are attempting to dump salary to make room for Anson Carter. Maltby makes more than Antropov I believe therefore that is never going to happen. Also you would have to be an idiot to trade Kirk Maltby AND a draft pick to get Nik Antropov. Malts over Nik anyday, and I am one of the few HEAVILY in favour of acquiring Nik.

Edited August 4, 2006 by superstarsingh

[eva unit zero 271]

Your two cents are invalid. Maltby should not be traded. He is one of the hardest workers we have. Now as for the Leafs taking the trade they wont. If we got Antropov it would have to be for a pick or for futures because they are attempting to dump salary to make room for Anson Carter. Maltby makes more than Antropov I believe therefore that is never going to happen. Also you would have to be an idiot to trade Kirk Maltby AND a draft pick to get Nik Antropov. Malts over Nik anyday, and I am one of the few HEAVILY in favour of acquiring Nik.

Maltby SHOULD be traded...Draper, Franzen, and Cleary do the same thing and are better at it. Only Draper costs more, and he is more versatile and generally better, and has a NTC.

Draper, Zetterberg, Franzen, and Cleary is still a very good top four PK forwards.

Antropov still has the potential to be a huge success.

If we could trade Maltby for Antropov, I would do it.

Holmstrom/Zetterberg/Samuelsson

Antropov/Datsyuk/Williams

Hudler/Lang/Kopecky

Cleary/Draper/Franzen

Maltby

Antropov did excellent while playing with Sundin, and his abilities may be more suited to success with Datsyuk. Imagine if Antropov and Kopecky turned into solid 20 goal, 50-60 point PFs this season or next?

[superstarsingh 23]

Maltby SHOULD be traded...Draper, Franzen, and Cleary do the same thing and are better at it. Only Draper costs more, and he is more versatile and generally better, and has a NTC.

Draper, Zetterberg, Franzen, and Cleary is still a very good top four PK forwards.

Antropov still has the potential to be a huge success.

If we could trade Maltby for Antropov, I would do it.

Holmstrom/Zetterberg/Samuelsson

Antropov/Datsyuk/Williams

Hudler/Lang/Kopecky

Cleary/Draper/Franzen

Maltby

Antropov did excellent while playing with Sundin, and his abilities may be more suited to success with Datsyuk. Imagine if Antropov and Kopecky turned into solid 20 goal, 50-60 point PFs this season or next?

I agree with you on everything but the fact that Malts should be dealt. He is still a solid player. I would rather have him killing penalties than Cleary. I will admit that if Malts wasnt a classic Wing from our Cup teams I would not feel the same. But he was. I realize I am a liitle in the past on this one. But keep in mind that the Leafs are looking to drop salary not pick it up. Maltby wont be traded to Toronto for Antropov. A pick or futures should suffice. I also doubt that Maltby will be traded anywhere. As you said he makes too much for what he does, teams will be quick to realize that.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

I cant believe people actually WANT Antropov. What a joke. This guy is crap and always has been.

Id rather go with a young guy than sign Antropov. Ugh.

That being said, I dont want Carter either.

[Asia13 0]

Your two cents are invalid. Maltby should not be traded. He is one of the hardest workers we have. Now as for the Leafs taking the trade they wont. If we got Antropov it would have to be for a pick or for futures because they are attempting to dump salary to make room for Anson Carter. Maltby makes more than Antropov I believe therefore that is never going to happen. Also you would have to be an idiot to trade Kirk Maltby AND a draft pick to get Nik Antropov. Malts over Nik anyday, and I am one of the few HEAVILY in favour of acquiring Nik.

Yes Maltby maybe ONE of the hardest working players..the key word word there is ONE. Like eva pointed out( thanks btw) We have Draper, Cleary, Franzen who are better than Maltby. How you say?

Draper- Little more expensive yes, but good faceoff skills and good speed, fresh of a Selke Trophy 2 NHL seasons ago, versatile enough to play C/LW/RW, has more scoring ability than Maltby and can play on any of the lines if needed

Cleary- younger, cheaper, had untapped scoring potential when young, more weight on him, just as good as Maltby if not better

Franzen- bigger, possibly cheaper (RFA-we'll see when they sign), better than Maltby at what he does, has more scoring potential and seemed to have developed the ability to agitate the opponent.

If Franzen does leave for Sweden, than fine keep Maltby if you want but as of right now all signs point to Franzen staying in Detroit. Why waste a spot for Maltby when you have cheaper, younger and most importantly HUNGRIER players such as Bootland and Kopecky? Also I didn't say trade Maltby and 3rd round pick for Antropov, I said trade either Maltby & 3rd round pick for Antropov & 4th round pick (a smaller pick if neccessary) or Maltby for a 4th round pick. Maltby for a 4th rounder I can understand why its not possible with the salary cap and all which is understandable.

Just for the record, I'm against trading for Antropov, no more lazy players please. Thats my 2 cents..again

[superstarsingh 23]

Picks, Malts and Antropov in a trade does not make sense. THE LEAFS ARE LOOKING TO DUMP SALARY. If they drop Antropov who makes around a million and pick up Maltby who makes 1.4ish they will NOT be dumping salary, God what is go hard to understand about that?

[wingsfan27 1]

Anyways! Listening to Leafs Lunch today on AM640 and my rumor was confirmed by Bill Watters that there are talks of Antropov going to Detroit the feeling being that Antropov would do well in different surroundings and he could produce on a line with Datsyuk."

just saw that on spectors, looks like the rumor was confirmed ..........anyways if it was up to me i wouldnt want antropov or carter .........only good thing about getting antropov is his size , but he sucks lmao and he wouldnt cost much so we should have like 3 million at trade deadline which might get us a really good player

anyways to add another 20 goal scorer were gonna have to trade someone like maltby cause we got to many forwards and last thing i want is to trade away the young guys like kopecky and hudler before they even have a chance to show what they got

[J-Swift 0]

Anyways! Listening to Leafs Lunch today on AM640 and my rumor was confirmed by Bill Watters that there are talks of Antropov going to Detroit the feeling being that Antropov would do well in different surroundings and he could produce on a line with Datsyuk."

just saw that on spectors, looks like the rumor was confirmed ..........anyways if it was up to me i wouldnt want antropov or carter .........only good thing about getting antropov is his size , but he sucks lmao and he wouldnt cost much so we should have like 3 million at trade deadline which might get us a really good player

anyways to add another 20 goal scorer were gonna have to trade someone like maltby cause we got to many forwards and last thing i want is to trade away the young guys like kopecky and hudler before they even have a chance to show what they got

Ugh. I was hoping this rumour was just speculation, but Bill Watters is a fairly respectable source. And unfortunately, this rumour makes far more sense than those Zetterberg+Kronwall for Antropov+Colaicovo trades we were hearing about last summer.

I really don't understand why we'd make such a move. Antropov can't be the "20-goal scoring winger" Holland has been talking about getting, because, for all Nik's "potential", he's never even hit that mark. Therefore, we'd be acquiring yet another winger for our top lines like Nolan, Sykora, or Carter. This means that Kopecky likely wouldn't be making the team, and Bootland would have absolutely no chance. Why would we want to stop the only tough forward prospects we have in our system from making the team?

There's a reason JFJ wants to dump Antropov on us. I'm sure he wanted to do it last season, but he couldn't with Pat Quinn in the picture.

[Fingercots 6]

ive noticed a lot of maltby bashing here. i dont think its a coincidence that he just had a dismal season as far as offensive production is concerned.

grinders like maltby, draper (and mccarty back in the day) are not on the team so they can put up points. they are around to work hard and do what it takes to put the team in a position to win.

sure, every now and again these guys come up with huge goals, especially in the playoffs, and sometimes they even have impressive offensive stats for an entire season. but just because maltby is getting older and didnt have many points last year doesnt mean they should just dump him. who knows, maybe he will surprise people with his numbers this year.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Your two cents are invalid. Maltby should not be traded. He is one of the hardest workers we have. Now as for the Leafs taking the trade they wont. If we got Antropov it would have to be for a pick or for futures because they are attempting to dump salary to make room for Anson Carter. Maltby makes more than Antropov I believe therefore that is never going to happen. Also you would have to be an idiot to trade Kirk Maltby AND a draft pick to get Nik Antropov. Malts over Nik anyday, and I am one of the few HEAVILY in favour of acquiring Nik.

Ugh. I was hoping this rumour was just speculation, but Bill Watters is a fairly respectable source. And unfortunately, this rumour makes far more sense than those Zetterberg+Kronwall for Antropov+Colaicovo trades we were hearing about last summer.

I really don't understand why we'd make such a move. Antropov can't be the "20-goal scoring winger" Holland has been talking about getting, because, for all Nik's "potential", he's never even hit that mark. Therefore, we'd be acquiring yet another winger for our top lines like Nolan, Sykora, or Carter. This means that Kopecky likely wouldn't be making the team, and Bootland would have absolutely no chance. Why would we want to stop the only tough forward prospects we have in our system from making the team?

There's a reason JFJ wants to dump Antropov on us. I'm sure he wanted to do it last season, but he couldn't with Pat Quinn in the picture.

[Seth 0]

this is nothing but leaf propoganda. Pure and Simple.