SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Saw this over on hockeynations.com/forums/insiders Montreal is apparently interested in Robert Lang again, and the word is, they're offering Perezhogin and a 2nd rounder for Lang. The idea is that this would clear up Detroits cap-space to then possibly land Dumont or have a little more cash for the deadlinee, as Perezhogin could address our winger problem, even though he is still young. I, for one, feel this may be crap, but who knows, it's just a rumor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 If we got Dumont sure, otherwise I'd pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted August 28, 2006 As the post above me said, we should confirm with dumont first if was serious and than make the deal. I like lang but he just makes 2 much money for 2,3rd center. If we had lost Zet or dats i would be all for keeping him but that isnt the case. I'd like to c this go down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 i fear our chances of landing dumont are less and less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterBurger40 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 WHY would anyone want Dumont over Lang? This place is whacky-world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 I have quite the feeling that I'll turn on the sports channel one day very soon and it will say "*insert team here* had picked up JP Dumont." It has happened too many times this offseason. WHY would anyone want Dumont over Lang? This place is whacky-world. I'd want Dumont just as much as Lang, I like Lang, but if we can get an improving Perezhogin in the process as well, why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) So we think Hudler isn't big enough but Perezhogin at 5'9" 168lb is ok? I'm lost with the logic on this one, are we saying that he'll be going to GR's or he'd be ok for the big team. Only a rumour I know but come on guys this ain't gunna happen. Hang on a minute, on the NHL.com he's listed as 6' 205lb but 5'9" 168lb on international database? can someone clarify this for me please as it is a big difference. Another interesting point is that Perezhogin was a linemate of Grigorenko at a international competition in Sweden back in 2003. Maybe this is forward planning by the coaching staff Edited August 28, 2006 by Andy Pred 48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) WHY would anyone want Dumont over Lang? This place is whacky-world. Cause Lang makes alot, and the Wings need more wings, less centers. Besides the fact they'd be getting a decent wing ALONG with a 2nd rounder, whilst freeing up some cap room. Nothing against Lang, I like the guy, and actually I root for the Habs too, so might as well go to a team I like. Don't seem too whacky to me. So we think Hudler isn't big enough but Perezhogin at 5'9" 168lb is ok? Not all of us do. Edited August 28, 2006 by bringback91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamf 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 He's listed at 5'11" 185 on canadiens.com http://www.canadiens.com/eng/team/redirect...;playerID=29450 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) Saw this over on hockeynations.com/forums/insiders Montreal is apparently interested in Robert Lang again, and the word is, they're offering Perezhogin and a 2nd rounder for Lang. The idea is that this would clear up Detroits cap-space to then possibly land Dumont or have a little more cash for the deadlinee, as Perezhogin could address our winger problem, even though he is still young. I, for one, feel this may be crap, but who knows, it's just a rumor. Youre feeling is right,this rumour is crap.No way Montreal can take on Langs salary.Gainey has said many times that they have reached their salary ceiling which is why they havent made a play for Dumont.Put this one to bed. Edited August 28, 2006 by UP2HERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 I'd trust Canadiens.com over anything. There he is listed as 5'11", 185 lbs. Maybe a little less than average size among NHL standards. He's fast, good quality for today's NHL standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Cause Lang makes alot, and the Wings need more wings, less centers. Besides the fact they'd be getting a decent wing ALONG with a 2nd rounder, whilst freeing up some cap room. Nothing against Lang, I like the guy, and actually I root for the Habs too, so might as well go to a team I like. Don't seem too whacky to me. So we think Hudler isn't big enough but Perezhogin at 5'9" 168lb is ok? Not all of us do. I'm not a big fan of dealing Lang. I think any team that contends has to roll 4 lines and has to be strong down the middle. No matter what you trade Lang for your depth and talent level at the center position gets worse. And yes, I realise we'd improve elsewhere. And, I'm not certain that Zetterberg is going to be a center. I will admit that I don't know what his natural position is and I don't know what Babcock's intention is but if it isn't to play center then you have to have Lang. However, all that being said, I think Perezhogin might be pretty good. He's young and if we can add Dumont as well you have to look at it as losing Lang but getting Perezhogin, Dumont and a 2nd rounder. That's worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterBurger40 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Cause Lang makes alot, and the Wings need more wings, less centers. Besides the fact they'd be getting a decent wing ALONG with a 2nd rounder, whilst freeing up some cap room. Nothing against Lang, I like the guy, and actually I root for the Habs too, so might as well go to a team I like. Don't seem too whacky to me. So we think Hudler isn't big enough but Perezhogin at 5'9" 168lb is ok? Not all of us do. Of course Lang makes alot, he is a superstar and gamebreaking player. People have their panties in a bunch about salaries, but wouldn't be happy if Detroit had a bunch of cheap fillers either- Wings fans will complain about anything- just like the Hudler comment. I'm sure that there are people that want Lang gone for Perezhogin, but want Hudler gone because he's too small...Contradicting opinions everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Of course Lang makes alot, he is a superstar and gamebreaking player. People have their panties in a bunch about salaries, but wouldn't be happy if Detroit had a bunch of cheap fillers either- Wings fans will complain about anything- just like the Hudler comment. I'm sure that there are people that want Lang gone for Perezhogin, but want Hudler gone because he's too small...Contradicting opinions everywhere. Great player that'll win you some games for sure, superstar I personally don't think so. I for one, don't wear panties, but if I did they wouldn't be in a bunch. I'm one of the few around here that actually likes the roster as it stands. Not perfect, but no team is. I don't think Hudler is too small at all, I want him to get a shot. Like Gordie said, I'd take a Lang for perezhogin, Dumont and a second rounder. Balances the lines out alot better, plus pacifiys the "Z must play center or else" camp. This rumor is probably bologna anyway. Here's a contradiction for ya though, I also wouldn't be pissed if Lang stayed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henkka 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Dumont - Zetterberg - Samuelsson Perezhogin - Datsyuk - Williams Maltby - Draper - Cleary Franzen - Johnson - Holmström Hmm... maybe.. maybe not. Where should we put Hudler and Kopecky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan27 1 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 Dumont - Zetterberg - Samuelsson Perezhogin - Datsyuk - Williams Maltby - Draper - Cleary Franzen - Johnson - Holmström Hmm... maybe.. maybe not. Where should we put Hudler and Kopecky? ummmm holmstrom had 29 goals last season and is like the only guy willing to pay the price in front of the net and you put him on the 4th line ?? lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 Dumont - Zetterberg - Samuelsson Perezhogin - Datsyuk - Williams Maltby - Draper - Cleary Franzen - Johnson - Holmström Hmm... maybe.. maybe not. Where should we put Hudler and Kopecky? Those are Terrible lines! Why in the world would you put Holmstrom on the 4th line? Why would you put Cleary on the 3rd lines? Why would you put Franzen on the 4th line after a scoring 12 goals on the 4th line last season? Dumont would play RW too... Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Dumont Perezhogin - Datsyuk - Williams Franzen - Draper - Samuelsson Cleary - Johnson - Maltby Kopecky would battle Cleary and Maltby for time. This is all if for some strange reason this trade actually in the works, which I highly doubt, because Perezhogin, yes he's up and coming, but only scored 9 goals last season. Lang scored 20+, and with an increased role and time this season will only score more. We can keep Lang and still afford Dumont. My point is that, while Franzen is not projected to be a big scorer, he has shown last season that he can put the puck in the net with limited time, and he was used for penalty kills a lot too, so he did well getting 12 goals. I would hope that he'll be at the least on our 3rd line this season, he deserves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 trade him that's all i have to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 I have quite the feeling that I'll turn on the sports channel one day very soon and it will say "*insert team here* had picked up JP Dumont." It has happened too many times this offseason. I'd want Dumont just as much as Lang, I like Lang, but if we can get an improving Perezhogin in the process as well, why not? after today's news i'm feeling like you should join sly stallone's mom in the psychic arena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdWarrior 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 Not Perezhogin... too small. I'd counter with Lang & Hudler for Latendresse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) How about this PIERRE DAGENAIS kid looking at his production when given playing time, seems like he's not that bad, not to mention he's a very big winger. http://www.nhl.com/players/8465003.html Edited August 29, 2006 by Johnny Diamonds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mule39 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 Not Perezhogin... too small. I'd counter with Lang & Hudler for Latendresse. Hell no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 I'd counter with Lang & Hudler for Latendresse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 How about this PIERRE DAGENAIS kid looking at his production when given playing time, seems like he's not that bad, not to mention he's a very big winger. http://www.nhl.com/players/8465003.html A guy who has failed to crack an NHL lineup full time in seven seasons with three teams? Exactly what I would trade Lang for... Not Perezhogin... too small. I'd counter with Lang & Hudler for Latendresse. You mean Latendresse and Komisarek, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 You mean Latendresse and Komisarek, right? For Lang and Hudler? You're crazy. Lang will be a UFA at the end of this year and is already up there in age. Hudler is unproven and no one knows if he'll ever be able to secure a full time job in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites