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#41 Zata fan 40

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE(Airborn @ March 4, 2007 - 05:30PM) View Post

I think he will. Holland and Nill were quoted earlier in the year saying they planned on bringing him over next year.

Anyone hear anything new on his possibility of coming over?
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:51 AM

i just don't know,..every interview i've read on this kid, the way he sounds he doesn't seem intrested at all in playing for the wings.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:13 AM

As I've said elsewhere, Grigorenko will likely start next year in the AHL.

How he does in the AHL, combined with how the team performs over the season, determines whether he makes his debut next year or in the 08-09 season.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(eva unit zero @ April 3, 2007 - 11:13AM) View Post

As I've said elsewhere, Grigorenko will likely start next year in the AHL.

How he does in the AHL, combined with how the team performs over the season, determines whether he makes his debut next year or in the 08-09 season.


Don't see him playing in the AHL. I believe if he is signed it's the NHL or back home.
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE(Zata fan 40 @ April 3, 2007 - 05:51PM) View Post

Don't see him playing in the AHL. I believe if he is signed it's the NHL or back home.


If Grigorenko never had his accident, that would have been the case when he came over.

But given his accident, and the fact that it's much more difficult to get good consistent scouting of players overseas than it is in-state, the Wings will want to get a good long look at him.

He may end up playing his way onto the team in training camp, or he may end up being called up later in the year. But I expect him to spend at least part of next season in Grand Rapids--he probably will be a Griff in the beginning, and depending on injuries and his level of play may or may not see ice time in Detroit next season.

Ultimately, the Wings will have 12 forwards returning if you assume Lang and Maltby are the only ones leaving. Grigorenko on the team means either he or Kopecky is the 13th forward. That's not good for either player, and Grigorenko is the one who can be in the AHL without hitting waivers.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 02:17 PM

I hate how all of you stick that same old 'russian' stereotype on him already. NONE of you know what he wants. None of you know if he will or wont play in the AHL. Just because you think he "sounded" like he didnt want to in an interview, doesnt mean crap. Maybe I think he sounds like he'll stay in the AHL for 5 years if that's what it takes to get to the NHL?

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 08:09 AM

I really don't think anyone on these boards know's what Igor is feeling or his future plans. I would say that he is a family man first of all and if he has any doubts over his family wanting to make the move then he won't leave his
homeland. At the end of the day hockey is a short period in your life as a player compared to one's marriage. So although I for one will be disappointed if he never come's over the pond, I would understand it.
The only thing we can judge the guy on is his stats in the Russian elite league and compare them to guys who have made the grade in the NHL. The only guy who has better stats in his Russian days is the kid Malkin at Pittsburg. Even
Alex the Great is behind Grigorenko in points per game. So here's some cud to chew over and see what you make of it.
The guy Morozov also had better stats than Grigs before he came over, love to have him here with Grigs as well. But he is back in Russia at present so I didn't include him.

Russian Elite League stats before becoming an NHL player;

Malkin; PL132 36+55 91 82pm ave ppg .69
Grigs; PL228 63+61 124 290pmn ave ppg .54
Semin; PL139 37+29 66 168pmn ave ppg .47
Alex ; PL151 36+33 69106pmn ave ppg .46
Frolov;PL 84 22+13 35 22pmn ave ppg .41

And as a side note;
Fedorov PL 169 41+33 74 87pmn ave ppg .44
Kozlov PL 116 31+31 62 98pmn ave ppg .53
Prof : PL 450 201+230 431 291pmn ave ppg .96
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 09:32 AM

ya the wings are good on goalies and d-men, we have too many playmaker forwards(mostly swedes)

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 04:43 PM

Would have been nice to add Grigs to GR playoff run...
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE(Andy Pred 48 @ April 7, 2007 - 09:09AM) View Post

Russian Elite League stats before becoming an NHL player;

Malkin; PL132 36+55 91 82pm ave ppg .69
Grigs; PL228 63+61 124 290pmn ave ppg .54
Semin; PL139 37+29 66 168pmn ave ppg .47
Alex ; PL151 36+33 69106pmn ave ppg .46
Frolov;PL 84 22+13 35 22pmn ave ppg .41

And as a side note;
Fedorov PL 169 41+33 74 87pmn ave ppg .44
Kozlov PL 116 31+31 62 98pmn ave ppg .53
Prof : PL 450 201+230 431 291pmn ave ppg .96


This isn't really an accurate representation--Grigorenko would have been over much sooner if not for his accident. Using Malkin and Ovechkin as examples, each played 3 full seasons in Russia before being super rookies here. So let's take the time from the start of Igor's Russian career until the end of his thid full season. We do that, and these are the numbers:
129 GP, 36g-27a-63pt, 193 PIM,

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:04 PM

Has it been confirmed yet that Grigs is coming over for next season?
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE(eva unit zero @ May 7, 2007 - 03:57AM) View Post

This isn't really an accurate representation--Grigorenko would have been over much sooner if not for his accident. Using Malkin and Ovechkin as examples, each played 3 full seasons in Russia before being super rookies here. So let's take the time from the start of Igor's Russian career until the end of his thid full season. We do that, and these are the numbers:
129 GP, 36g-27a-63pt, 193 PIM,



Yes, and your point is what exactly?
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 11:00 PM

There is a rumor that he is close to signing a one year max rookie deal. Can anyone confirm?
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:41 PM

people have been talking about this guy for how long? Nothings happened

How old is he?



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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:59 AM

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How old is he?
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:58 AM

Grigs is coming to America!!!!

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:04 PM

Does anyone have video of Igor or have a link? I was looking for some highlights of any kind.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE(WiNgSowN @ May 27, 2007 - 02:04AM) View Post
Does anyone have video of Igor or have a link? I was looking for some highlights of any kind.
Fight (Grigs is #34 in blue)
Secondary assist (Grigs is the guy working the halfboards)

That's all I could find.

Edited by Systemfel, 27 May 2007 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE(Mule39 @ May 10, 2007 - 02:58AM) View Post

Grigs is coming to America!!!!


For sure? I hope he replaces his damaged legs with cybernetic ones, and becomes the first of many 'super' players. Years later, Hollywood will make a movie about the last 'unaltered' player who must make his way into a league of robots. In the end, he uses his human smarts to redefine hockey and ends up scoring the game-winning-goal in the Stanley Cup Finals in overtime of game seven, bringing on a new age of 'unaltered players.' Finally, the NHL outlaws cybernetic players, but makes an exception for Grigorenko. We win a Stanley Cup, with him leading the way, and by the looks of it, have many more in the future. However, he feels that the Cup is bittersweet and unfreezes his legs, getting them re-attached. We go on to the finals the next year, but are defeated in 5 games by a very surprised Toronto Maple Leafs. The fans had a really good feeling about that year and the general consensus was that it was their year. Grigorenko does not feel bad, because he knows 100% that he earned what he got.

As you flip through the channels on tv, you see the previews for the movie- in the end, the words flash on the screen:

*BUHM BUHM* Igor Grigorenko *BUHM BUHM* Robo-hockey *BUHM BUHM* Summer


It records the greatest sales in box office history, the NHL and hockey in general becomes very prosperous, and Bettman leaves in favor of the NFL. The NFL slowly collapses like a flan in a cupboard.


But I really hope Grigorenko makes it to the Wings!

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 10:09 AM

http://www.redwingsc...renkoSigns.html

It's an older article, but I figure it's relivant to this discussion.





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