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#41 DaKineMaui

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:14 PM

Like Bert or not - he's gonna come to da Wings.

Holland is FOREVER pulling that trigger on getting those large skilled tough guy types. Kenny "grit" Holland they outta call 'im.

Welcome Bert!

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#42 Lhockeytowngirl

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE(wingslogo19 @ February 7, 2007 - 10:57PM) View Post

Well i hate to say it, but your soo wrong... Bert had a press conference and apologized on national tv and was crying and had a huge speech so where you get that he didn't own up to it, i have no idea...

Side Note: I was at that game in van since i live in bc and it was crazy.. your going to love this, i ended up beathing the s*** out of an avs fan as did many nucks fans that night since the score was 9-2 avs



he was only sorry because he was in deep trouble with the NHL! I am shure he manager had a hell of a lot to do with that press confrence.. and what a show it was......... clap.gif look he can act too!

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:15 PM

Can you picture Chelios and Bertuzzi on the same team? They would be fighting in the locker room!

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:16 PM

QUOTE(A.T.Hun @ February 7, 2007 - 11:06PM) View Post

So while he didn't score in the playoffs he made his team shorthanded an average of just over two times per game. He's big, but his back is questionable at best and even when he was at his best he brought very little to the table offensively in the playoffs. I'd like to see the Wings get some more size for the playoffs too, but by "size" I would mean much more than "the ability to displace air."

Good catch on the PIMs, though it is worthy of note that 20 of those 60 minutes were in game misconducts. Overall, he led the playoffs with 20 minor penalties (7 more than the runners up).
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:16 PM

QUOTE(sibiriak @ February 7, 2007 - 11:05PM) View Post

A someone mentioned before, he HAS NOT paid for his deed yet. When he shows his remorse by reaching a decent settelement with Moore, instead of stonewalling him every way he can, I'll start counting him as a human being again.
Until then, I don't want this sleeze wearing the Winged Wheel.


There's a big difference between being remorseful and reaching a settlement. Bertuzzi showed that he is remorseful for the incident, he doesn't have to reach a settlement to that. Legal matters are very complicated and have very little to do with any moral or immoral behavior by Bertuzzi.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:16 PM

QUOTE(sibiriak @ February 7, 2007 - 11:01PM) View Post

If I ever cripple somebody, even inadvertently, I hope that i'd be man enough and own up to it, and pay the appropriate damages to the victim. Especially if I could afford them, like Bertuzzi can. You do realize that Moore still haven't seen a dime from Bertuzzi, right?


Nor should he. First, Bertuzzi may not have even been the one that crippled him. Did you see that pile-up? Can you say without question it was the hit from Bertuzzi that did him in? Neither can a doctor. Second, if Moore had turned to face Bert as he was grabbing on to the back of his sweater they would have exchanged maybe one or two punches before the linesman were all over that and it would have been over. Cowardice is a poor excuse for injury. Third, Moore didn't seem to mind taking liberties by inflicting a hit which could have blown out Naslund's knee and ended HIS career, which was then and is now worth a whole lot more "dimes" than Moore's was ever going to be. Bert did something that EVERY member of this board wanted one of our players to do after cheap shots to Williams, then Franzen, then Cleary, then Hasek... the list goes on. Bert has balls. Bert has good hands. Bert has a mean streak. Bert has size. Bert has loyalty to him teammates. Make the trade Kenny! He didn't intentionally cripple Moore. It's not like he was thinking, "ya, I'm gonna cripple this guy, derail my own career, become a hated NHL'er, get traded to a crappy team, and face years of legal battles", as he was tugging on Moore's jersey while skating down the ice. He just wanted to slap him in the face and say, "Don't take out our star player's knee, be more careful you spineless, third line, cowardly Avs monkey". If Shanny had crippled poor Roy when he jumped at him, or if Mac had crippled poor Claude when he pummeled him as he turtled on the ice would you portray Shanny or Mac as vile villians who should be hung in the town square? I think not...

Trade for Bert. Hudler and a pick. My only concern is that Bert should sign here for at least another year or two as part of the deal. He's exactly what we need. Filpulla with Bert on his wing would be deadly.
"And? If I did, I probably would have been a fighter, so what?"

Who knows; maybe you would realize that enforcers in hockey are critical to a teams chemistry and overall success?

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:18 PM

Red Wings acquire Bertuzzi for little, something good happens. In retrospect we're all glad we got him.

Red Wings acquire Bertuzzi for little, nothing good happens so he is let go. We aren't glad we got him for what he did.
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Red Wings DON'T acquire Bertuzzi, more than likely, nothing good happens (see past few playoffs)

Red Wings DON'T acquire Bertuzzi, less than likely, something good happens.


Pick your side of the fence.

Edited by The Nephilim, 07 February 2007 - 11:25 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:21 PM

First off I want to say this is my first post on Letsgowings.com. I have read many reviews over the past 4 or 5 years finally going to respond. I also enjoy reading all of your posts, good stuff. Now about the real topic at hand, Bertuzzi is exactly what this team needs, size, strength and mean streak. Oh by the way he can put the puck in the net. Exactly what Kenny boy wants. Bring him on. And about the class issue, this organization thrives on being classy, if bert isnt up to the standards see ya later. I think babs will woop him into shape. Thanks again everyone look forward to replying and giving my two cents on this board.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:23 PM

Meh, I dunno...

I don't like Bertuzzi personally, but if it were to help the Wings in the long-run (or short-run/postseason) and they don't have to give up much to get him, I'll keep silent about my personal feelings toward him. I don't think he can be counted on to be a top guy night in/out, but I wouldn't mind actually seeing him paired with Lang/Cleary.

I think that could be interesting, also b/c I just don't' see Babcock breaking up Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom unless they absolutely just go stone cold. You can't expect them to keep on their pace forever lately, but I highly doubt they'll snag that low.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE(Lhockeytowngirl @ February 7, 2007 - 08:14PM) View Post

he was only sorry because he was in deep trouble with the NHL! I am shure he manager had a hell of a lot to do with that press confrence.. and what a show it was......... clap.gif look he can act too!

that's a crock of s*** sorry to say that.. Of course he knew he was going to be in trouble with the nhl its not like he was going to get away with it... And how can you say that the manager had lots to do with the press conference or anything to do with it... So your saying that Bert must of had some onions in his hand or his hankie so that's why he started crying.. GIVE ME A BREAK
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#51 sibiriak

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE(daniel1 @ February 7, 2007 - 10:16PM) View Post

Nor should he. First, Bertuzzi may not have even been the one that crippled him. Did you see that pile-up? Can you say without question it was the hit from Bertuzzi that did him in? Neither can a doctor. Second, if Moore had turned to face Bert as he was grabbing on to the back of his sweater they would have exchanged maybe one or two punches before the linesman were all over that and it would have been over. Cowardice is a poor excuse for injury. Third, Moore didn't seem to mind taking liberties by inflicting a hit which could have blown out Naslund's knee and ended HIS career, which was then and is now worth a whole lot more "dimes" than Moore's was ever going to be. Bert did something that EVERY member of this board wanted one of our players to do after cheap shots to Williams, then Franzen, then Cleary, then Hasek... the list goes on. Bert has balls. Bert has good hands. Bert has a mean streak. Bert has size. Bert has loyalty to him teammates. Make the trade Kenny! He didn't intentionally cripple Moore. It's not like he was thinking, "ya, I'm gonna cripple this guy, derail my own career, become a hated NHL'er, get traded to a crappy team, and face years of legal battles", as he was tugging on Moore's jersey while skating down the ice. He just wanted to slap him in the face and say, "Don't take out our star player's knee, be more careful you spineless, third line, cowardly Avs monkey". If Shanny had crippled poor Roy when he jumped at him, or if Mac had crippled poor Claude when he pummeled him as he turtled on the ice would you portray Shanny or Mac as vile villians who should be hung in the town square? I think not...

Trade for Bert. Hudler and a pick. My only concern is that Bert should sign here for at least another year or two as part of the deal. He's exactly what we need. Filpulla with Bert on his wing would be deadly.


I believe you that Bertuzzi didn't intend to cripple Moore. But since he directly caused the situation that did, whatever legalistic excuses you may advance in his defense, he should have put his money where his tears are, and tell his lawyers to settle, instead of trying to block Moore from filing his suit anywhere on North American continent. Until he does settle, he is an unrepentant thug in my book, and I wouldn't want him to touch a Detroit jersey, let alone wear it.
And I never wanted any Detroit players to cripple anyone else, even Claude. Beat him up, split his lip, knock out a tooth or three - yes, make him unable to play hockey again - no.

Edited by sibiriak, 07 February 2007 - 11:27 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:28 PM

I will gag myself if we get Bertuzzi. I hate his guts for what he did to Moore

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:32 PM

OKOKOK, we get the point here that Bert hurt Moore.. i don't want to hear anymore of it we ALL KNOW
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:33 PM

QUOTE(daniel1 @ February 7, 2007 - 11:16PM) View Post

Nor should he. First, Bertuzzi may not have even been the one that crippled him. Did you see that pile-up? Can you say without question it was the hit from Bertuzzi that did him in? Neither can a doctor. Second, if Moore had turned to face Bert as he was grabbing on to the back of his sweater they would have exchanged maybe one or two punches before the linesman were all over that and it would have been over. Cowardice is a poor excuse for injury. Third, Moore didn't seem to mind taking liberties by inflicting a hit which could have blown out Naslund's knee and ended HIS career, which was then and is now worth a whole lot more "dimes" than Moore's was ever going to be. Bert did something that EVERY member of this board wanted one of our players to do after cheap shots to Williams, then Franzen, then Cleary, then Hasek... the list goes on. Bert has balls. Bert has good hands. Bert has a mean streak. Bert has size. Bert has loyalty to him teammates. Make the trade Kenny! He didn't intentionally cripple Moore. It's not like he was thinking, "ya, I'm gonna cripple this guy, derail my own career, become a hated NHL'er, get traded to a crappy team, and face years of legal battles", as he was tugging on Moore's jersey while skating down the ice. He just wanted to slap him in the face and say, "Don't take out our star player's knee, be more careful you spineless, third line, cowardly Avs monkey". If Shanny had crippled poor Roy when he jumped at him, or if Mac had crippled poor Claude when he pummeled him as he turtled on the ice would you portray Shanny or Mac as vile villians who should be hung in the town square? I think not...

Trade for Bert. Hudler and a pick. My only concern is that Bert should sign here for at least another year or two as part of the deal. He's exactly what we need. Filpulla with Bert on his wing would be deadly.


clap.gif Thank you for that....I was trying to conjure up something to that effect.....

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(Heroes of Hockeytown @ February 7, 2007 - 10:38PM) View Post

Choo choo! Here comes the Pain Train, headed by one Todd Bertuzzi. Look out, he's a force!

Six

Count 'em,

SIX

playoff goals in 24 games.

Hank managed to equal Bert's entire playoff goal totals in a single run last spring. I know he had that big season four years ago, but it may just be that that's potential he no longer has.


Kenny Rogers was supposed to be a cancer and at 41 washed up too. He also had a postseason ERA of over 9.00.

A hockey one: How about Lang's resume before coming to the wings : 51 playoff games 9G 13A.

Those transactions sure are lookin terrible rolleyes.gif

Edited by Mighty Wings, 07 February 2007 - 11:37 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(wingslogo19 @ February 7, 2007 - 10:13PM) View Post

You can't just pay someone out, it has to go to court which like i said it did, and the COL judge threw it out.. Then moore tried to get it to a canadian trial but that was also denied.. SO most likly he won't see anything from Bert

Have you ever heard of settling out of court? It's done all the time. A civil suit goes to court only if the sides can not reach agreed settlement. If I hit someone with my car (not intentionally) and that person would incur medical bills in excess of what my insurance covers, I'd feel obliged to make up the difference, if I at all can. They would not have to go to court, just would need to show me the receipts. I wouldn't respect myself if I didn't. Why should I respect Bertuzzi?

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:36 PM

Ok im sure we all remember the incident with how danny heatley killed his best friend when he played with the trashers, then got traded to the sens and he's lighting it up, if you trade bert to a team like the wings im sure that he will do the same thing that Heatley did and is still doing.. Sometimes players just need a change of scenery
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:36 PM

Dats-Zetts-Homer
Bert-Fillpula-Sammy
Cleary-Lang-Lapointe
Malts-Draper-Franzen

Williams, Hudler - traded.





"And? If I did, I probably would have been a fighter, so what?"

Who knows; maybe you would realize that enforcers in hockey are critical to a teams chemistry and overall success?

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:38 PM

Personally, come playoff time, a healthy Bertuzzi is a player I'd rather have on my team than on the opponents. You are all right though, there are ifs: his health, his price, and his place in the dressing room (we don't have to work with the guy, so it really doesn't matter if we think he's tainted).

Think of the depth this guy would bring to this team. Having him beside Zetterberg and Datsyuk would be scary, if you consider the success Holmstrom musters in that spot. Or throw him beside marshmallow Lang and Cleary. Also pretty scary. Hell, put him beside Draps and Maltby and I would still see a threat. He may not be an angel but Bertuzzi is that instant threat in all aspects of the game.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE(Mighty Wings @ February 7, 2007 - 11:35PM) View Post

Kenny Rogers was supposed to be a cancer and at 41 washed up too. He also had a postseason ERA of over 9.00.

I wouldn't really know anything about that.

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hockey one: How about Lang's resume before coming to the wings : 51 playoff games 9G 13A.

Good point. However, Lang was also leading the league in scoring when he was acquired. What has Bert done recently besides become injured, underachieve, and brain a guy on the ice?
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