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#21 Crymson

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE(ZatasGirl40 @ February 11, 2007 - 10:09AM) View Post

ummm yeah i think lilja is the only one i agree with getting rid of. definitely not cleary...or maltby or lang. williams is definitely in a slump right now but maybe he'll get out of it. i just don't get why clearys name was even mentioned?


Agreed, except on Williams. He takes up a valuable roster space, and he has shown no signs of improving. IMO, even in best of times he's an incomplete player. If we can deal him, I feel we should. He may be of use to a team that doesn't have the scorers we do.

I'd do anything to get rid of Lilja.

Lang? I feel he's become a Wing. We'll see this summer if he feels the same way. I feel that a unique strength of the Wings is the bond that longtime players develop with the organization. If he wants to partake for a decent price, I feel he's worth it.

Cleary? I'll skin anyone who again advocates dropping him.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE(Crymson @ February 11, 2007 - 02:06PM) View Post

Agreed, except on Williams. He takes up a valuable roster space, and he has shown no signs of improving. IMO, even in best of times he's an incomplete player. If we can deal him, I feel we should. He may be of use to a team that doesn't have the scorers we do.

I'd do anything to get rid of Lilja.

Lang? I feel he's become a Wing. We'll see this summer if he feels the same way. I feel that a unique strength of the Wings is the bond that longtime players develop with the organization. If he wants to partake for a decent price, I feel he's worth it.

Cleary? I'll skin anyone who again advocates dropping him.

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Ah..yes. I agree with the Williams thing. But yeah definitely no dropping Cleary.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 02:41 PM

Come on gang, we all know what Maltby is responsible for...knocking our net off during the playoffs when the opposition gets too fiesty around our net! (Anybody remember that in 2004?) biggrin.gif

Edited by aflac9262, 11 February 2007 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:00 PM

I like Maltby because he's served this organisation so well for a long time. But I think that next season would be a good time to give a chance to a younger player who has more passion and will to prove himself and who could give us some production in the future (suggestions who that might be..? huh.gif ). Maltby's point production has worryingly become almost non-existent. Sure he's still valuable on the penalty kill but we already have guys like Dats and Flip taking shifts on the kill so our penalty kill isn't gonna suck anyway.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:35 PM

I advocate getting rid of Williams over Maltby. While Maltby's checks aren't earth shattering, at least he's still doing that. Williams doesn't do anything. He doesn't score, hit, fight. Nothing. Next to Lilja he is probably the most useless player on the team. He serves no purpose other than stealing ice time from Hudler and Filppula.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ February 11, 2007 - 10:35PM) View Post

I advocate getting rid of Williams over Maltby. While Maltby's checks aren't earth shattering, at least he's still doing that. Williams doesn't do anything. He doesn't score, hit, fight. Nothing. Next to Lilja he is probably the most useless player on the team. He serves no purpose other than stealing ice time from Hudler and Filppula.


I agree, Williams is relied on as a point producer (more or less) and he's not doing that. Last season was pretty promising since he had 21 goals & 58 points but he's not gonna get even close to that this season. thumbdown.gif

It's a shame because he also had a great 04-05 season here in Finland when he was among league leaders in scoring and really seemed to be rounding out his game.

Still pretty well done for an undrafted player but he's not fulfilling the role that was planned for him in Detroit. sad.gif
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:23 PM

Lol, I wasn' t saying get rid of Cleary, all I was stating was I personally don't have any opnion on him one way or another, like I do with Dats, Zett, etc, thats all. I just am indifferent to losing or gaining any of those players even Maltby. I was just simply stating it seems that he is playing with a lot more grit lately.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE(LIDDYGIBBY5 @ February 11, 2007 - 09:00AM) View Post

His future he is set in stone if he is willing to play for $750,000/ year.


He is absolutely not worth even 750,000....with a plus/minus in the negatives ON THE RED WINGS and about 5 points all year how do you figure. He going to be gone (hopefully) so they can get Filppula or Kopecky some experience and develop. Im not a Maltby hater, he simply has done nothing this season and needs to go.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:16 PM

I'm also on the side of not bringing Maltby back. I have nothing negative to say about the guy. I'm a huge fan of his, but his career is winding down, and it's time to give his ice time to someone else. It something that happens to every NHL player who's career is coming to an end.

I appreciate everything Kirk did in a Wings jersey, I hope he can have one last hurrah in Detroit before the season is over.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE(Barrie @ February 11, 2007 - 04:16PM) View Post

I'm also on the side of not bringing Maltby back. I have nothing negative to say about the guy. I'm a huge fan of his, but his career is winding down, and it's time to give his ice time to someone else. It something that happens to every NHL player who's career is coming to an end.

I appreciate everything Kirk did in a Wings jersey, I hope he can have one last hurrah in Detroit before the season is over.


Good call.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Crymson @ February 11, 2007 - 09:12PM) View Post

Good call.

Thanks.

I think sometimes guys winding down their career get ripped to much by the fans a media. Every player slows down. When you think of guys like Draper, Maltby, McCarty, Shanny, Yzerman, Chelios, Osgood, etc. really all you can say to those guys when their times came or going to come is, "Thanks for the Memories".
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 11:52 PM

I dont think Shanny has totally slowed dwn eyt , Chelios nor Draper has lsot a beat either , I agree with the others , but 34 points at 41 for stevie last eyar wasent bad considering he was playing the 3rd/4th lines , with the occasional 2nd line apperances

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