wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 If Bertuzzi costs Hudler, Guerin will cost way more than that. Both players are rentals. If the Wings sign Bert, they wont get Guerin or Tkachuk too. If the Wings trade Hudler straight up for Bert, that could save them having to use firsts and seconds to land Guerin. Very good point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfan 23 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Wow your crazy!!!! Am I? Crazy for a team solid enough to win a Stanley Cup. Everyone is willing to part with Williams. Hudler is the best trade bait we have. We won't miss the 2nd round pick with our ability to draft talent in late rounds. Do you want a difference maker or do you want to watch another team make all the trades? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 you guys want to trade Hudler for a guy who has 7 games played and is still unsure if he can play even now. Hudler is our trade bait.........we can land someone better then Bertuzzi. If no other deals can get done, then I'm for this.....but only as a last resort. I don't wanna lose our trade bait to Bertuzzi.......not when so many better deals can get done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 It wouldn't be a post from leftwinger unless he took a shot at Euros ...you're right, but at least this time I am not talking bad about them, I was just confirming Kenny's love for the European born player. It was more of a shot at Kenny... ...anyhow, I believe the risk is worth it. Even though he is coming off an injury, he would definately fill more than one void in this lineup, if he is healthy enough to play... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 you guys want to trade Hudler for a guy who has 7 games played and is still unsure if he can play even now. Hudler is our trade bait.........we can land someone better then Bertuzzi. If no other deals can get done, then I'm for this.....but only as a last resort. I don't wanna lose our trade bait to Bertuzzi.......not when so many better deals can get done AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE 7 GAMES PLAYED AND 7 POINTS, MEANING HE'S A POINT PURE GAME PLAYER SO FAR THIS SEASON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OpenLane 10 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Hudler, Williams, and a second rounder for Bertuzzi. Make that trade and re-sign the beast. He is exactly what the Wings need! too much. pass in that case. but i'd damn near offer hudler in any trade that comes down the pipe. sell him while we can. EDIT: people that keep saying how we can draft great in later rounds don't realize that this draft is thin. So a fourth rounder is not going to get you what it might have a few years ago. Edited February 20, 2007 by OpenLane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 I'd be willing to part with Hoodlum, but it's a little sketchy doing it for Bert given his current health. We might be giving up Hudler for a bum steer. And Bert hasn't exactly lit it up in the playoffs in the past like he should've been either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Am I? Crazy for a team solid enough to win a Stanley Cup. Everyone is willing to part with Williams. Hudler is the best trade bait we have. We won't miss the 2nd round pick with our ability to draft talent in late rounds. Do you want a difference maker or do you want to watch another team make all the trades? I agree we won't miss Williams at all, nor Hudler TOO much, but as for the draft pick? We've been very lucky that our scouting team has picked out great late-draft prospects. However, don't take that for granted, and certainly don't assume that it is a failsafe plan. FYI, though: Williams will get us nothing. I believe we've been over this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Hudler for Bertuzzi is perfect and pretty much enough. another trade for some gritty 4th liner and we're perfectly fine. the point is this team is working right now and only needs some additional depth to put the load off the 1st line. and definitely it's our 2nd line which needs some improvement. throw Hudler, Williams and some picks and get one big guy like Bertuzzi and if there's any chance also some banging RW (Asham, Mayers, Lapointe) and call it done. we can't change half of the team and f* up all the chemistry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE 7 GAMES PLAYED AND 7 POINTS, MEANING HE'S A POINT PURE GAME PLAYER SO FAR THIS SEASON back in what.....october? I can just see it now......we acquire him and watch him sit out through the playoffs :flamingmad: Edited February 20, 2007 by shanahanman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 20, 2007 ...anyhow, I believe the risk is worth it. Even though he is coming off an injury, he would definately fill more than one void in this lineup, IF he is healthy enough to play [well]... See my changes, and you'll see my concerns, besides the fact that he's a total scumbag dips***. "I'm so sorry!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 back in what.....october? I can just see it now......we acquire him and watch him sit out through the playoffs Ok dumbass you said that he's play in 7 games and didn't produce, and that's why i put that on here.. and like i said again yes he's a risk to sign but you sometimes need to take a risk in life.. The preds did with Forsberg.. IF HE'S HEALTHY HE CAN BE ONE OF THE BEST POWER FORWARDS IN THE GAME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 you guys want to trade Hudler for a guy who has 7 games played and is still unsure if he can play even now. Hudler is our trade bait.........we can land someone better then Bertuzzi. If no other deals can get done, then I'm for this.....but only as a last resort. I don't wanna lose our trade bait to Bertuzzi.......not when so many better deals can get done Exactly what better deals can get done? The only guy better is Guerin, the most coveted rental player around right now. JD's asking price for him already is a player/prospect and a 1st Like I said, if Bertuzzi costs Hudler, Guerin will cost Hudler and a 1st . Also, you have to consider that most teams (anaheim, san jose, carolina) have better prospects/players to offer and their 1st rounders will likely be lower than Detroit's which may mean Detroit needs to tip the trade even further just to beat out the competition. For example, Joe Pavelski (rumored to be trade bait) and SJ's 1st rounder would beat out Hudler and our 1st every day of the week and twice on sunday's. That may mean Detroit has to offer Hudler, a 1st and maybe a 5th/6th to tip the scales. If thats the case, Hudler for Bert straight up looks better and better every second. At any rate, Holland wont do anything until hes seen Bert play a few games, so you can all rest assured until then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Ok dumbass you said that he's play in 7 games and didn't produce, and that's why i put that on here.. and like i said again yes he's a risk to sign but you sometimes need to take a risk in life.. The preds did with Forsberg.. IF HE'S HEALTHY HE CAN BE ONE OF THE BEST POWER FORWARDS IN THE GAME IF!!! Do you want to take a risk on a guy who hasn't played in 5 months and has had major surgery during that time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chelios4eva 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 I don't get it, we complain that we need a gritty player. We can get him now... we complain some more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 20, 2007 At any rate, Holland wont do anything until hes seen Bert play a few games, so you can all rest assured until then. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenrikRules40 14 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 I don't get it, we complain that we need a gritty player. We can get him now... we complain some more You seem shocked. Are you new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 you know, after thinking about it, I say no way. Not for Hudler, not for anybody. I'll make the bold prediction now that Bert is going to be a playoff bust. we'll see if I end up eating my words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Ok dumbass you said that he's play in 7 games and didn't produce, and that's why i put that on here.. and like i said again yes he's a risk to sign but you sometimes need to take a risk in life.. The preds did with Forsberg.. IF HE'S HEALTHY HE CAN BE ONE OF THE BEST POWER FORWARDS IN THE GAME don't get so butt-hurt. i never said he didn't produce, i said it was way back in October when he DID. Even Forsberg played some games before getting traded to Nashville. you know, after thinking about it, I say no way. Not for Hudler, not for anybody. I'll make the bold prediction now that Bert is going to be a playoff bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sergei_is_still_a_wing 1 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 i'm a big hudler fan and would love to keep him BUT, if it takes him and a second rounder or less, DO IT. the wings haven't had that type of physical force in forever. everyone says its the one thing we lack, so why not see if it IS IN FCAT the one thing we lack. do it. we have planty of young talented forwards in the system, and with the detroit scouting system, we wouldn't have to worry too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Henrik40 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 you know, after thinking about it, I say no way. Not for Hudler, not for anybody. I'll make the bold prediction now that Bert is going to be a playoff bust. we'll see if I end up eating my words. Yea I'm starting to think so too I'd much rather get Guerin or Tkachuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 20, 2007 You seem shocked. Are you new? Haha!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 A tough one. I'd rather keep Rex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 IF!!! Do you want to take a risk on a guy who hasn't played in 5 months and has had major surgery during that time? Ok i will say it one more time, sometimes you need to take risks... I ask you who else we could get with the same type of play that bert has with only trading Huds?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 hudler for bertuzzi, straight up, i'd do it in a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
