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#21 SouthernWingsFan

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE(puckloo39 @ February 20, 2007 - 07:19PM) View Post

I am shocked.
Not.

Yeah, he's mentioned in 499 out of 500 articles, but not this 500th. Heaven forbid, especially when it's just a 4-sentence paragraph. rolleyes.gif

Anyways, I'm holding out hope (like last season laugh.gif) that Datsyuk will produce in the postseason, since Buccigross mentioned him. I actually think Holland will do something big as well before the deadline, as compared to last season. Here's hoping for Tkachuk (if the Blues decide to become sellers).

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 20 February 2007 - 09:05 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE(SouthernWingsFan @ February 20, 2007 - 08:00PM) View Post

Yeah, he's mentioned in 499 out of 500 articles, but not this 500th. Heaven forbid, especially when it's just a 4-sentence paragraph. rolleyes.gif


rolleyes.gif yourself. How do you even know what I meant?

I can't have an opinion? Guess not. dry.gif

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE(puckloo39 @ February 20, 2007 - 08:07PM) View Post

rolleyes.gif yourself. How do you even know what I meant?

I can't have an opinion? Guess not. dry.gif

Who said anything about not having an opinion? huh.gif

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:10 PM

Play nice kids....or no Chuck E. Cheese Saturday!

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE(Hockeytown Red Wings @ February 20, 2007 - 08:10PM) View Post

Play nice kids....or no Chuck E. Cheese Saturday!

Damn, I was looking forward to being a kid this weekend!!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE(SouthernWingsFan @ February 20, 2007 - 06:12PM) View Post

Damn, I was looking forward to being a kid this weekend!!! biggrin.gif

laugh.gif .. Well i got my fingers crossed like im sure everyone else is about Dats scoring in the playoffs
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:16 AM

I'm not worried about Dats not scoing in the P/O this year as if they stick to our current 1st line he'll be ok. Its our 2nd line that worries me at present, and not just for their current slump. In terms of playoff's if we put Sammy in the equasion as well the 4 of them have played a total of 111 games scoring 18 goals and 44 points in all. The concern is that Langer has 37 of these points himself. The other 3 have a combined
to play 42 games for just 7 points, kinda worries one doesn't it!
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:31 AM

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I'm not worried about Dats not scoing in the P/O this year as if they stick to our current 1st line he'll be ok. Its our 2nd line that worries me at present, and not just for their current slump. In terms of playoff's if we put Sammy in the equasion as well the 4 of them have played a total of 111 games scoring 18 goals and 44 points in all. The concern is that Langer has 37 of these points himself. The other 3 have a combined
to play 42 games for just 7 points, kinda worries one doesn't it!


The Wings will add a guy like Guerin and all that will most likely change our 2nd line
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE(ForsbergisaFairy @ February 21, 2007 - 01:43AM) View Post

..............wow. huffin glue there bud?
oh c'mon you know he's right. hasek gets credit only when it would make the writer or analyst look bad if he/she didn't give it. open your eyes.


This year he has a 2.05 gaa and he has 6 shutouts already. His two previous years with us in 01-02 and 03/04 he averaged 2.17 and 2.20 gaa and had 7 shutouts total. Obviously he is having a better year this year for the Wings statistically than he has in the past. I will admit in the playoffs he was outstanding 2002. I just don't see why you think that was so farfetched

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 04:19 AM

QUOTE(ForsbergisaFairy @ February 21, 2007 - 02:11AM) View Post

dude arguably should've won the conn smythe that year. he's playing great now but without him in 2002 there's reason to believe we go home without a cup.


He was amazing in the playoffs, I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I'm shocked he's having a better regular season in 07 than he has had for us in the past and that in the regular season in the past, he did seem shakey at times. Let us not forget in 2002 we had one heck of a team in general. Hull, Luc, Shanny, Feds etc...
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 05:17 AM

QUOTE(ForsbergisaFairy @ February 21, 2007 - 03:11AM) View Post

dude arguably should've won the conn smythe that year. he's playing great now but without him in 2002 there's reason to believe we go home without a cup.

Not ahead of Nick, Stevie, or Sergei.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 06:10 AM

QUOTE(ForsbergisaFairy @ February 21, 2007 - 02:43AM) View Post

oh c'mon you know he's right. hasek gets credit only when it would make the writer or analyst look bad if he/she didn't give it. open your eyes.

Yeah, 5am, wee hours in the morning eating breakfast getting ready for work, I'm so tired! Maybe I should chug some more coffee to wake me up...

I think it is you who needs to realize that it is not a travesty if he isn't mentioned or given credit everytime, everywhere. That doesn't take away from the fact that he's a great goalie.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE(YoungGuns1340 @ February 20, 2007 - 08:07PM) View Post

This isnt nothing we dont know. But nobody can deny that goaltending has been as good as it has been since...well 2002, and the defense could be the best since then as well, in terms of its chemistry and balance between stay at homers and offensive guys.

Of course the front needs some work, but a top 5 of Hank, Dats, Homer, Lang and Bert, Guerin, or Tkachuk does wonders when you consider the guy being replace will likely be Williams and/or Hudler.

Hank - Dats - Homer
Sammy - Lang - Guerin/Tkachuk/Bert
Hudler - Draper - Lapointe/Mayers
Cleary - Franzen - Maltby

That doesnt look so bad when you consider the defense and goaltending package that goes along with it.

Ive got a 5 buck bet that says if Detroit gets Lapointe, it will be Willy heading to Chicago.

Guerin!! I saw him play Columbus last night and he looked real good.

I would do anything to get Lapointe back. Then maybe we'd have protection for Datsyuk.

QUOTE(ForsbergisaFairy @ February 21, 2007 - 04:11AM) View Post

dude arguably should've won the conn smythe that year. he's playing great now but without him in 2002 there's reason to believe we go home without a cup.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:10 AM

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:20 AM

If Dom makes it through to the playoffs and continues the way he's playing, he should be a top contender for the Masterson, if not the Vezina (too political, he won't win). The fact that Dom's been injured in the past isn't unique. A lot of players get injured and can't continue -- they just don't become the center of controversy because of it. Being out injured seems to be somehow blameworthy, when it comes to Hasek. He's Hasek, and he's always been a lightening rod for the media.

I find it interesting, therefore, that the media are ignoring the proverbial 800 pound gorilla this season. Bucci and a few others were high on Dom in the past, and have made predictions that turned out bad, so it appears they won't make that mistake again this season. That way, they can't be wrong in print. I heard Darren Pang say, after Dom was injured in Ottawa, that he would not make the mistake of "trusting" Hasek to stay healthy all season. As if it's a matter of integrity or personal worth that Hasek was not able to get back and play? Why wouldn't he play and win and make millions in bonuses, if he were physically capable of doing it?

When Dom isn't mentioned or noticed when he's the NHL player of the month (December), breaking records for wins by a goalie over 40, or when his other contributions go unnoticed or are dismissed and/or diminished (he's number 1 in the NHL again in GAA), it makes sense to me. Sometimes, I think it's a way of reverse-jinxing the possibility that Hasek could get hurt and "let everyone down" again.

PS - We all have to make up our own minds which players are valuable and which aren't. This is just my opinion... no need to try and contradict or chastise me for thinking what I think... OK? smile.gif

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 11:03 AM

Game 6 of the WCF. No Dom = No SCF. That is undisputable.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 12:09 PM

I agree as well. Bucci's right..Wings aren't a championship team...YET. Give it a couple days and all could be totally changed. wink.gif
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE(hockeycrazy3033 @ February 21, 2007 - 10:09AM) View Post

I agree as well. Bucci's right..Wings aren't a championship team...YET. Give it a couple days and all could be totally changed. wink.gif


We have about as good as shot as anybody, dont you think? We're a handful of points away from the best record in the league and it's not like we haven't had a fair share of rotten luck with some injuries. If we're not, who is? The Preds? Buffalo? I think we have the talent to take them down.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 06:48 PM

I'm having a hard time buying this Conspiracy To Discredit Hasek (Or Whatever) based on all this non-evidence...

I mean, let's get real here people, the article mentions ONE PLAYER, who is clearly our best at this juncture, and that is Hank. Lidstrom, Cleary, Dom, Homer, Pavel, etc. have all been great but it mentions ONE GUY and that it happens to not be Hasek is no slight against him or any of the others.

Everyone knows he's the Dominator and he gets all the credit he deserves for being a bazillion time everything-winner and Stanley Cup winning legendary goaltender. Speaking of which...

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Let's get real here, too. He's won these awards a gazillion times; it really ought to put to rest any "political" whatsits. If he doesn't win it this year (he won't) it'll be because Martin Brodeur or maybe Roberto Luongo was the better goalie.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Mudvayneowns91 @ February 21, 2007 - 02:14PM) View Post

We have about as good as shot as anybody, dont you think? We're a handful of points away from the best record in the league and it's not like we haven't had a fair share of rotten luck with some injuries. If we're not, who is? The Preds? Buffalo? I think we have the talent to take them down.

We've had the best record in the league for a few previous years - see how far that's gotten us in the playoffs...





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