Lupul hit video

[GuloGulo 0]

Here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj4fljgkxeE

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I like what he's trying to do there, picking guys off on the blueline like Vladdy used to, but he's gotta keep his skates on the ice and his elbows in.

[FinWing 26]

His timing was great but he got a little over-excited there. Open-ice hitting is one of his strengths (probably the biggest strength) and something that should intimidate our opponents a little bit. He just needs to keep the hits clean.

[Turretin 0]

Dirty Shot. No doubt about it.

[Heaton 1]

I'm going to be a hypocrite but I don't give a s*** if that was a dirty hit or not. I do not like the Oilers, I don't like all of the whining that MacTavish does and the flopping around that Roloson does.

Call this payback from the Torres hit on Williams early on, clean or not.

[StaticWithABeat 0]

It's too bad Lupul got hurt, Kronwall definitely caught him high and deserved at least a penalty...but still, it's nice to see someone exert some physicality beyond the gentle shoving we usually see out of the Wings.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

I'm with Heaton.

The thing is Kronner is NOT a dirty player and everyone's calling him out saying he is and that he should be suspended. I'm sure Nik feels bad about it but he's a tough guy and well the Oilers can go to hell. Ahaha

[Turretin 0]

That's fine. Then don't complain when it happens to Zetterberg, because Lupul is like their Zetterberg (future of the franchise). It was a dirty hit, he should have been penalized. If you like hockey, you should care, because it takes a heck of a lot less talent to do that, then to be a great player. If we are "fine" with dirty hits, then the league will continue to go to s***.

[akustyk 84]

I can't honestly say if his foot was on the ice. looks like it was there, but I'd have to see a better angle.

having said that: nice, tough hit. not Stevens-like, but still tough. good job

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

That's fine. Then don't complain when it happens to Zetterberg, because Lupul is like their Zetterberg (future of the franchise). It was a dirty hit, he should have been penalized. If you like hockey, you should care, because it takes a heck of a lot less talent to do that, then to be a great player. If we are "fine" with dirty hits, then the league will continue to go to s***.

Let's not act like it was the dirtiest hit of the century here. It would have been completely legal had he just stayed on his feet.

[Heaton 1]

That's fine. Then don't complain when it happens to Zetterberg, because Lupul is like their Zetterberg (future of the franchise). It was a dirty hit, he should have been penalized. If you like hockey, you should care, because it takes a heck of a lot less talent to do that, then to be a great player. If we are "fine" with dirty hits, then the league will continue to go to s***.

Uh, Lupul is not their Zetterberg, Edmonton fans don't even like Lupul so that's why there's not any uproar. Lupul is not the future of their franchise, they're putting very little stock into him.

Also, did you not watch the game? Kronwall WAS penalized for the hit. I'm not into people cheap shotting each other, but the Oilers have done their fair share of questionable hits towards us, call this their karma.

Stop acting like the Oilers have never done this 10 times over to us.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Let's not act like it was the dirtiest hit of the century here. It would have been completely legal had he just stayed on his feet.

Exactly. People are going overboard with this hit.

[Zetter is Better 0]

Kronwall is an awsome hitter. I know he left his feet and all. You want grit, You got it with Kronwall

[Lou_Siffer 1]

I love big hits dirty or clean, hell i dont care. I just want bodies flying around...great job by Kronwall!

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I can't honestly say if his foot was on the ice. looks like it was there, but I'd have to see a better angle.

having said that: nice, tough hit. not Stevens-like, but still tough. good job

I don't know if that second skate was touching the ice or not, but it was the upward jump and arm out that makes it a penalty.

Honestly it's that kind of hit that seems to be happening more and more the last couple seasons, and it's a bad thing.

Players keep pushing up through the hit, as opposed to just slamming the guy with their body. Because when you throw yourself up like that, you're more likely to catch someone in the head and throw an elbow, intentionally or not.

You can crush a guy with a good check without having to launch up at their head.

Edited February 24, 2007 by haroldsnepsts

[Turretin 0]

Heaton, I have respect for your posting, so I am going to try to explain the disagreement instead of get spittle all over my keyboard.

- I did not say that it wasn't penalized, but my comment was vague, so I get how you took it that way.

- Lupul has a lot more talent, and worth to the EDM organization than you are giving him credit for. You are right that he is not as loved as Zetts, so it was probably a bad analogy, but he is a young star for them.

- I am not acting like the Oilers have not done it 10 times before, I am acting like we should be consistent with what we condemn and what we condone. If it is fine to retaliate with cheap shots, then Dats, Zetts and Lids better have their heads up. If Kronner had done that to Torres, I have a lot less of a problem with it.

EDIT: I have not heard any uproar, so please don't throw me in that crowd. All I am saying is it is dirty, and more players are hurt with hits like that now, than ever before.

Edited February 24, 2007 by Turretin

[Heaton 1]

Fair enough.

[esteef 2,679]

What kind of s***ty game calling was that? The best hit of the game and you wouldn't even know it if you were just listening to the broadcast.

I like how Willy's in the corner hanging onto the back of Torres's jersey for dear life! Don't let go Willy!

Also, did you not watch the game? Kronwall WAS penalized for the hit. I'm not into people cheap shotting each other, but the Oilers have done their fair share of questionable hits towards us, call this their karma.

Stop acting like the Oilers have never done this 10 times over to us.

Exactly. Live by the sword...

- I am not acting like the Oilers have not done it 10 times before, I am acting like we should be consistent with what we condemn and what we condone. If it is fine to retaliate with cheap shots, then Dats, Zetts and Lids better have their heads up. If Kronner had done that to Torres, I have a lot less of a problem with it.

Please, the Wings could give Edmonton 5 more of those and we still wouldn't be even.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

What kind of s***ty game calling was that? The best hit of the game and you wouldn't even know it if you were just listening to the broadcast.

I like how Willy's in the corner hanging onto the back of Torres's jersey for dear life! Don't let go Willy!

Exactly. Live by the sword...

I agree completely! I was actually in the other room while the game was on, only when i heard them talk about players coming together did i come sprinting to the tv. I had no idea that big a hit had even taken place till they showed the replay.

[akustyk 84]

I don't know if that second skate was touching the ice or not, but it was the upward jump and arm out that makes it a penalty.

Honestly it's that kind of hit that seems to be happening more and more the last couple seasons, and it's a bad thing.

Players keep pushing up through the hit, as opposed to just slamming the guy with their body. Because when you throw yourself up like that, you're more likely to catch someone in the head and throw an elbow, intentionally or not.

You can crush a guy with a good check without having to launch up at their head.

yeah. but it's been in the league since Stevens from what I remember, and most possibly even before. you do it tough - you get penalized by the zebras and will most possibly carry a hitting marker next time you meet the team you hurt. for every crap you have to pay the price.

and frankly, id I was an Oiler fan I'd be the last person who complains about a big hit in Edmonton-Detroit game. I know some of them see Torres as the next incarnation of Dalai-Lama, but it's been their f* team who gooned us first. now they get their share of crap and instantly turn on the whining-tune... oh puhlease...

Kronwall should get his penalty, maybe even some fine from the league if they found it overly over the line, but let's not make Kronwall a cheap shot artist or demand suspensions...

- Lupul has a lot more talent, and worth to the EDM organization than you are giving him credit for. You are right that he is not as loved as Zetts, so it was probably a bad analogy, but he is a young star for them.

Lupul has great talent which he showed with the Ducks. either Oilers are not using him properly or he's having some other issues. the kid has every tool to become solid forward. I like him and hope he'll be fine. yeah, I somehow feel for this kid and would definitely prefer to see Kronner picking up sh!t like Torres instead of Lupul

- I am not acting like the Oilers have not done it 10 times before, I am acting like we should be consistent with what we condemn and what we condone. If it is fine to retaliate with cheap shots, then Dats, Zetts and Lids better have their heads up. If Kronner had done that to Torres, I have a lot less of a problem with it.

dito

Edited February 24, 2007 by akustyk

[Offspring2099 0]

Do both feet need to be down?

[wingslogo19 281]

It was a good solid hit that's forsure

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Do both feet need to be down?

Pretty much, yeah.

[Offspring2099 0]

Pretty much, yeah.

I see, because one foot is off during the hit, the other one comes up from under him as the result of the collision.

[toby91_ca 620]

I can't honestly say if his foot was on the ice. looks like it was there, but I'd have to see a better angle.

having said that: nice, tough hit. not Stevens-like, but still tough. good job

Even if he didn't jump, which he clearly did, Lupul still got a face full of elbow.

That said, Kronwall hits normally are not dirty. My biggest beef with Kronwall has been that he needs to pick his spots better. From what I have seen, he goes out of his way (out of position) for big hits. This wasn't necessarily the case here, but has been in the past.