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#1 Mighty Wings

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:20 PM

Calder : 2-8-10 in 8 games as a wing

Lang : 4-7-11 in last 8

Hudler : 5-3-8 in his last 8.

I'm beginning to love this line, and maybe bertuzzi shouldn't replace hudler????

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:25 PM

Both Franzen and Rex have performed admirably on this line. This tells me that Lang and Calder should no be split; they do well together. Bert ought to get a shot at the second line. If it doesn't work out (won't have a lot of time to waste) him playing with Flip and Franzen doesn't sound terrible either.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:27 PM

I think bert can play with either calder and lang or franzen and flip. Preferably with calder and lang, but the way they are producing with hudler, i dont know if they are going to split them up. But i imagine bert and franzen could make some room for flip and that line could shine as well. We have such a good team that its not even fair to label our lines 1 2 3 4 because they are all fantastic

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:32 PM

Yeah, it really makes you wonder where Bertuzzi will end up. I think Babcock will end up splitting up Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Bertuzzi will be on Datsyuk's wing to create space for him when things get tighter in the playoffs. The Swede line from last year will be back together.

Samuelsson-Zetterberg-Holmstrom
Cleary/Filppula-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Calder-Lang-Hudler
Franzen-Draper-Maltby

Three lines that can score. It wont put too much pressure on one line. If worse comes to worst and the Wings are in a must-score situation, put Zetterberg and Datsyuk together again with Bertuzzi or Holmstrom.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(My GF Wishes I Was Hank @ March 14, 2007 - 11:27PM) View Post

We have such a good team that its not even fair to label our lines 1 2 3 4 because they are all fantastic


This will only be true when Maltby does not dress for the game! LOL


In all honesty though I really feel good about how jumbled the lines are and yet everyone seems to just keep on producing even without so many of the big boys in the lineup. It does make you feel as though no matter the line combonations we will be just fine(and just fine in the playoffs when injuries always always happen).
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:34 PM

These lines looking much more balanced than last year (ex. No Williams, no Draper in the top six); each line looks responsible defensively except maybe the third. However, Lang will turn it over whatever line he's on.

Edit: I was talking about my above post.

Edited by ARice89, 14 March 2007 - 11:35 PM.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:40 PM

By far my favorite line on the Wings.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:55 PM

Hudler played 19:30 tonight and 17:30 last night, which was more than samuelsson and homer. Maybe its a sign that hudler will stay in the lineup when its stocked and loaded, and perhaps samuelsson could be the odd man out.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE(ARice89 @ March 15, 2007 - 12:32AM) View Post

Yeah, it really makes you wonder where Bertuzzi will end up. I think Babcock will end up splitting up Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Bertuzzi will be on Datsyuk's wing to create space for him when things get tighter in the playoffs. The Swede line from last year will be back together.

Samuelsson-Zetterberg-Holmstrom
Cleary/Filppula-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Calder-Lang-Hudler
Franzen-Draper-Maltby

Three lines that can score. It wont put too much pressure on one line. If worse comes to worst and the Wings are in a must-score situation, put Zetterberg and Datsyuk together again with Bertuzzi or Holmstrom.

That'd be stupid. I personally don't see it coming. That line was the most productive line in the entire NHL, and it's not like we're lacking for a 2nd scoring line now - not only because of the addition of Bertuzzi but the strong play of Calder and stronger play of Lang.

It's great to see the 2nd line finally producing, but if you have to break up one line(either the 1st or 2nd), you break up the 2nd. The 2nd line is hot right now but still ain't even close in terms of what the 1st line was doing. There were stretches of games where the 1st line amounted for 100% of this team's goals scored.

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Homer
Calder-Lang-Bertuzzi
Franzen-Draper-Maltby
Filppula-Cleary-Sammy(and i personally have no problem with Hudler in his place)

That's how i start the playoffs if health allows us too, and that's fully what i expect.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:04 AM

what a great feeling to have too much talent for one lineup!! i personally hope it's sammy or maltby that sits. i think there's no chance in hell it'll be malts, so hopefully sammy
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE(silkyjohnson13 @ March 15, 2007 - 01:00AM) View Post

That'd be stupid. I personally don't see it coming. That line was the most productive line in the entire NHL, and it's not like we're lacking for a 2nd scoring line now - not only because of the addition of Bertuzzi but the strong play of Calder and stronger play of Lang.

It's great to see the 2nd line finally producing, but if you have to break up one line(either the 1st or 2nd), you break up the 2nd. The 2nd line is hot right now but still ain't even close in terms of what the 1st line was doing. There were stretches of games where the 1st line amounted for 100% of this team's goals scored.

No, what's stupid is putting Hudler in the press box when he's just starting to get hot. Sure the first line was great and I'm not opposed to keeping it together but the Wings need to be able to roll four lines in the playoffs. The lines I listed above give the team a very balanced attack that will keep the oppostion's defense on its heels. Datsyuk can produce without Zetterberg and Zetterberg can produce without Datsyuk. Why put all your eggs in one basket? If you need to score, put them out together. If not, roll three capable scoring lines without scratching Hudler.

Edited by ARice89, 15 March 2007 - 12:16 AM.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE(datsyukismyfriend @ March 15, 2007 - 01:04AM) View Post

what a great feeling to have too much talent for one lineup!! i personally hope it's sammy or maltby that sits. i think there's no chance in hell it'll be malts, so hopefully sammy


Why would you want Maltby to sit?? You can never have too much gritty, defensive experience on your team. Maltby should get the nod before Sammy easy. Dare I say even Cleary.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:31 AM

QUOTE(YoungGuns1340 @ March 15, 2007 - 01:28AM) View Post

Why would you want Maltby to sit?? You can never have too much gritty, defensive experience on your team. Maltby should get the nod before Sammy easy. Dare I say even Cleary.

Cleary brings everything Maltby brings plus 20 goals but without the playoff experience. Either way, neither of them are going to be scratched. It will be Filppula, Hudler, or Samuelsson.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE(ARice89 @ March 15, 2007 - 01:15AM) View Post

No, what's stupid is putting Hudler in the press box when he's just starting to get hot. Sure the first line was great and I'm not opposed to keeping it together but the Wings need to be able to roll four lines in the playoffs. The lines I listed above give the team a very balanced attack that will keep the oppostion's defense on its heels. Datsyuk can produce without Zetterberg and Zetterberg can produce without Datsyuk. Why put all your eggs in one basket? If you need to score, put them out together. If not, roll three capable scoring lines without scratching Hudler.



Its not really about having set lines so much as it is figuring out who plays well with who. Right now, the only line that is for sure is Calder-Lang-Hudler and I wouldnt be surprised to see Hudler taken off either since Franzen did well on that line too which may lead Babs to experiment with the Right Wing. Im thinking in the last few games of the season Babs will experiment with the lines and whoever seems to click best will roll into the playoffs together.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:39 AM

Lang should be demoted to grand rapids. This guy is horrible and sucks when he is on the ice. sly.gif
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE(ARice89 @ March 15, 2007 - 01:15AM) View Post

No, what's stupid is putting Hudler in the press box when he's just starting to get hot. Sure the first line was great and I'm not opposed to keeping it together but the Wings need to be able to roll four lines in the playoffs. The lines I listed above give the team a very balanced attack that will keep the oppostion's defense on its heels. Datsyuk can produce without Zetterberg and Zetterberg can produce without Datsyuk. Why put all your eggs in one basket? If you need to score, put them out together. If not, roll three capable scoring lines without scratching Hudler.

And as you can see i said i have no problem with playing Hudler over Sammy. What i do have a problem with though is breaking up Zetterberg and Datsyuk to keep Hudler/Lang/Calder together.

You want to treat it like we have 3 equal scoring lines. That's not how it works. Yes, you want all of your lines to be able to contribute, but you aren't going to treat them as equal. Hudler isn't going to sniff nearly the ice time that Zetterberg, for example is going to see - and i'm just talking even strength.

2 good/great scoring lines + 1 checking line + 1 energy line > 3 average/good scoring lines + 1 checking line

By the way, Filppula and Cleary will both be in the lineup easily before Hudler - no matter how nice of a scoring streak he is currently on.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:44 AM

I love Calder wub.gif

He has totally been impressive and has helped spark Lang to not be completely lazy and sucky.... I personally think that Samuelsson should be scratched before Maltby, Cleary, Hudler, or Filpulla. He brings nothing to the Wings that one of them couldn't bring (except wussy wristers). unsure.gif

Edited by Wings_Rule_1010, 15 March 2007 - 12:48 AM.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:51 AM

QUOTE(YoungGuns1340 @ March 15, 2007 - 01:28AM) View Post

Why would you want Maltby to sit?? You can never have too much gritty, defensive experience on your team. Maltby should get the nod before Sammy easy. Dare I say even Cleary.

That is a definite no to Cleary sitting. Maltby deserves to go first, than Sammy. If Huddles continues to play like this he cannot sit, I agree but benching Cleary isn't a good solution--anyways, the Hank injury sounds very serious, so we could be having this conversation for no reason. Cleary was playing the best hockey of his career before he got hurt and I can hardly imagine Babs scratching him out of the lineup and Cleary is another player the wings need to be hot for the playoffs. If you can never have too much defensive experience, they why bench Cleary because he clearly fits under that description-- Sammy sounds like a good candidate for me. But hey, isn't it wonderful that we can be having this conversation deciding what good player should be sitting--that we have that many options?

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:37 AM

i know i'm gonna get some heated reponses for this but in my opinion just based on our frequent inability to score in the playoffs hudler > samuelson

he's lights out when he's alone and can flat out shoot and surprise surprise it's not 30 feet away either!

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:06 AM

I know this is off topic, but man do I want to see a Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi line for a game or two. All three of those guys have pillow soft hands around the net, they'd just be unstoppable. Not to mention Bertuzzi's size and willingness to crash the net.





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