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I don't know if bringing him back would be a good idea...he's been my favorite player since I was little, but even if we got him at a good price, he'd get booed relentlessly and it would create unwanted drama for the team and for him. I want to see him close out his career with some dignity, not on a team where the fans will boo him every night.

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I don't know if bringing him back would be a good idea...he's been my favorite player since I was little, but even if we got him at a good price, he'd get booed relentlessly and it would create unwanted drama for the team and for him. I want to see him close out his career with some dignity, not on a team where the fans will boo him every night.

Are you serious? Fans are fickle. End of story.

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Are you serious? Fans are fickle. End of story.

They wouldn't boo him, either. It's not at all amazing how people will take issue with someone leaving, but could easily return to loving them when they do something like return.

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Feds HATED playing D under Bowman--evidently he felt that it was an affront to his status. However, now that he's an average player with a $6m contract, he really has zero room to complain.

If I had a choice, I'd always have put him on defense; he had MUCH more room to make plays that way.

I know I've spoken of the fans` dislike for Fedorov, but I HIGHLY doubt that would extend to him were he to return. We'd all welcome him, I know; he'd be on the team, so what else could we do?

I'd take him for $2m, max. At this point, he scores at the rate of Samuelsson. That isn't to say that he wouldn't do better on a better team; but fortunately, were we to sign him, his hideous season in Columbus would drag his price down considerably. He's still a capable player, but no longer worth star money.

I vote for Jakob Kindl and Kyle Quincey.

As much as I loved Feds back in the day, I would ony take him if we had limited options with UFA's and for peanuts compared to what he makes now.

I think Feds would be a third line forward or a defenseman, tops. At present, we haven't room for him on the blueline, so it'd be the former.

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If I had a choice, I'd always have put him on defense; he had MUCH more room to make plays that way.

I know I've spoken of the fans` dislike for Fedorov, but I HIGHLY doubt that would extend to him were he to return. We'd all welcome him, I know; he'd be on the team, so what else could we do?

I'd take him for $2m, max. At this point, he scores at the rate of Samuelsson.

Yeah, exactly. And besides, there's still a lot of memorability to him for fans, so it'd go beyond "he's with us so hey, let's open our arms". I know it'd be that way for me.

What is his contract length, by the way? I could likely google that baby up somewhere... but I'm busy with other stuff.

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Rabia, I was just telling my Dad last night the exact same thing. How amazing of a line it would be with Dats Feds and Hank. That would IMO be the best line in hockey.

Oh, don't I wish. That would be perfect. Fedorov is one of the best playmakers in the game.

I also wouldn't mind him on defense at all.

He still has lots left in him. I also would LOVE for him to retire here.

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I think Feds would be a third line forward or a defenseman, tops. At present, we haven't room for him on the blueline, so it'd be the former.

:lol:

Let me guess, we don't have room for a guy like Zubov or Kaberle either? If Fedorov embraced the position switch, he'd be our #2 defenseman.

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:lol:

Let me guess, we don't have room for a guy like Zubov or Kaberle either? If Fedorov embraced the position switch, he'd be our #2 defenseman.

Quoted for truth.

Fedorov has to figure things out a few seasons ago whether to remain in Detroit or not. He thought a location change would do him good. Has it ultimately moving from Anaheim to Columbus? That's purely a judgemental call from us fans, and none of us will truly know if he's happy where he's at right now with the Blue Jackets or not.

He's not the same player he was back in the mid/late 90s. With getting older, obviously you lose some jump in your step after a while, I don't care who you are.

I went to college back in the Dallas-Fort Worth area from 1999-2004, and remember attending a Stars-Wings game where Fedorov was actually playing defense aside Chelios I think. If Hitchock is putting him on defense now, even as he's getting up in age, shoud at least show that he still has some good hockey sense left in him. His skills are probably still there even in his mid-30s.

The way he departed definitely left a bad taste in my mouth, whether he was right or wrong in leave (another judgement call that we won't fully understand), but I'll fess up and say that I would entertain bringing him back in a somewhat reduced role, 2nd line probably. He'd still log considerable miniutes.

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Yeah, exactly. And besides, there's still a lot of memorability to him for fans, so it'd go beyond "he's with us so hey, let's open our arms". I know it'd be that way for me.

What is his contract length, by the way? I could likely google that baby up somewhere... but I'm busy with other stuff.

I do believe his contract is through this year. He was signed for 3 years by Anaheim before '03-'04.

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:lol:

Let me guess, we don't have room for a guy like Zubov or Kaberle either? If Fedorov embraced the position switch, he'd be our #2 defenseman.

Definitely. He would add a lot of offense to our D, without making stupid defensive mistakes. Also, if a forward goes down and we need him to be in another position....short of goaltender he can play them all.

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Regarding whether Fedorov regrets leaving the "Wings," "Livingthe Dream" wrote: "He absolutely has to. How couldn't he? He was misguided in thinking he could be the big star somewhere - he was a big star here because of his talent AND his team mates. Let's hope Pavel is looking at this as a potential future for himself and getting his smarmy agent to back down." I agree completely, but it wasn't JUST being a star because he essentially had that here. It was wanting the adulation that Steve Yzerman had, and he didn't get that by going elsewhere!

Are Pavel Datsuyk's numbers TWICE what he put up last year? That MIGHT be the only reason for doubling his salary, and I don't think he's reached that. Furthermore, as good a "horse trader" as Ken Holland is, I think his counter-offer should be X and if Datsuyk "shows up" in the playoffs then he gets X+.

If Fedorov is willing to take a huge cut in what he's making now, I wouldn't be against resigning him. Look at the performance of 44 year old Chelios (now 45!), AND, AND, what he's making. Think about it Sergei!

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I do believe his contract is through this year. He was signed for 3 years by Anaheim before '03-'04.

He has one year left. He signed for 5 years before the '03-'04 season.

Makes him a perfect deadline acquisition. Don't re-sign Schneider and let Kindl play the regular season before bringing in Sergei for the Cup run.

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He has one year left. He signed for 5 years before the '03-'04 season.

Makes him a perfect deadline acquisition. Don't re-sign Schneider and let Kindl play the regular season before bringing in Sergei for the Cup run.

I highly doubt that Holland will take a stab at a $6m player who is likely worth $2.5m, anytime.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Jackets attempted to unload him at a discount over the summer.

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The thing is that it's not as if he's not DOING anything on Columbus. He's tied for 2nd in scoring a few goals shy of Rick Nash, and is 3rd in scoring. He was on fire after Hitchcock joined the team, and he's done a lot of it while being injured. He's only a handful of points behind 'all-star' Rick Nash, while being much more flexible and defensively minded. He's a great asset to any team. :) I'm not saying he's still worth his $6 mil contract, but I'm also not saying that the Blue Jackets are going to looking to be getting rid of him. From all I've seen, they love him there.

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The thing is that it's not as if he's not DOING anything on Columbus. He's tied for 2nd in scoring a few goals shy of Rick Nash, and is 3rd in scoring. He was on fire after Hitchcock joined the team, and he's done a lot of it while being injured. He's only a handful of points behind 'all-star' Rick Nash, while being much more flexible and defensively minded. He's a great asset to any team. :) I'm not saying he's still worth his $6 mil contract, but I'm also not saying that the Blue Jackets are going to looking to be getting rid of him. From all I've seen, they love him there.

I say that Columbus ought scrap him, even though you have a Jackets #91 jersey somewhere. ;)

....aaaaaaand.... he should come here, for $2mill! I think that'd be an excellent idea. "It is an excellent idea!" Why thank you Kenny Holland, you are so gracious.

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I highly doubt that Holland will take a stab at a $6m player who is likely worth $2.5m, anytime.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Jackets attempted to unload him at a discount over the summer.

You mean like Bertuzzi?

Fedorov has come FAR closer to earning his $6M than Todd has to earning his $5.whateverM this year.

Depends on how his switch to defense works out. BJ fans are saying that what he's shown so far is better than any other defenseman they've had in the last couple years. I'll still hold on to hope that they move him next deadline. Kenny should make a call if he's available. No one knows better than the Wings, what Sergei is capable of doing in the playoffs.

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No one knows better than the Wings, what Sergei is capable of doing in the playoffs.

It's been a while since he's seen playoff hockey. He'll be 39 next time they come around; to say age hasn't degraded his playing ability is silly.

Still, he's better than he's showing in C-bus. I think I'm a year away from knowing whether or not I'd like to see Kenny pursue him.

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I say that Columbus ought scrap him, even though you have a Jackets #91 jersey somewhere. ;)

I would gladly give up my Columbus jersey for Sergei to come back to a Red Wing jersey and retire where he belongs.

You mean like Bertuzzi?

Fedorov has come FAR closer to earning his $6M than Todd has to earning his $5.whateverM this year.

Depends on how his switch to defense works out. BJ fans are saying that what he's shown so far is better than any other defenseman they've had in the last couple years. I'll still hold on to hope that they move him next deadline. Kenny should make a call if he's available. No one knows better than the Wings, what Sergei is capable of doing in the playoffs.

Indeed. As, much as I can't wait to see what TB does on the ice, I know that Fedorov is a far better player all around. And awesome as a forward or as a d-man.

The good thing about Kenny is that I think he will make the call if it's possible, and things work out. And he can't be discounted in the playoffs. I've never seen a player more critisized in the playoffs, but he was money, he really got the job done.

It's been a while since he's seen playoff hockey. He'll be 39 next time they come around; to say age hasn't degraded his playing ability is silly.

Age/injuries have degraded his skill a bit, but 38 year old Sergei > most of the other defensemen in the league. And his brain is still the same. The way he knows where ot place a puck is still just as amazing.

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You mean like Bertuzzi?

Fedorov has come FAR closer to earning his $6M than Todd has to earning his $5.whateverM this year.

One might have said the same about Fedorov now versus Peter Forsberg at the end of the '01-'02 season. My point? Bert hasn't quite been in control of his play--one cannot play when one needs back surgery or is recovering from it. His first seven games were quite promising, at 1ppg. Nobody can say whether he'd have had a bad season, an average season, or an incredible season. Meanwhile, Fedorov has unequivocally played a season far worse than any other $6m player. He's an above average player at this point; no better.

Had Bertuzzi had an average season, you'd be comparing bad and worse.

As a matter of perspective, I don't think you'd have been slamming Stevie for not earning his pay in the seasons during which he had significant injury troubles.

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One might have said the same about Fedorov now versus Peter Forsberg at the end of the '01-'02 season. My point? Bert hasn't quite been in control of his play--one cannot play when one needs back surgery or is recovering from it. His first seven games were quite promising, at 1ppg. Nobody can say whether he'd have had a bad season, an average season, or an incredible season. Meanwhile, Fedorov has unequivocally played a season far worse than any other $6m player. He's an above average player at this point; no better.

Had Bertuzzi had an average season, you'd be comparing bad and worse.

As a matter of perspective, I don't think you'd have been slamming Stevie for not earning his pay in the seasons during which he had significant injury troubles.

And Sergei has had some bad injuries as well. Nothing so severe as to keep him out of the lineup, but wrist/elbow/rib/abdominal issues that won't let him nearly as explosive or dynamic offensively as he could otherwise. I believe there was a stretch of games where he wasn't able to even take a slapshot. Imagine Schneider without his slapper. Not too pretty of a thought is it?

Edit - to address the bold I present one Jose Theodore to be considered.

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