Guest Agalloch Report post Posted March 21, 2007 I know that Kronwall is much more highly touted, but Lebda has really impressed me with his speed, and overall smart defensive play. However, I don't understand why Kronwall gets so much hate around here. He was playing great before he got the cage on his face, and he's still rather young as well, so it's not like he's fully developed. With that said, both of these are locked up long term, and are both around the same age... which do you think is better now, and which do you think will be better in the future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 For Now : Definately Lebda , Kronwall needs to lose that mask , its ruined his game. Future : Both will be equally good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetter is Better 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Didn`t he get his cage off last game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 For Now : Definately Lebda , Kronwall needs to lose that mask , its ruined his game. Future : Both will be equally good rest easy, he has retired the mask as of last game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GongShow86 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 2 different styles that helps out the team. Both are needed for the future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 rest easy, he has retired the mask as of last game I was at the game , but I was in the nsoe bleeds so i coudlnt see , anyways im ahppy the mask is gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticWithABeat 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 I know that Kronwall is much more highly touted, but Lebda has really impressed me with his speed, and overall smart defensive play. However, I don't understand why Kronwall gets so much hate around here. He was playing great before he got the cage on his face, and he's still rather young as well, so it's not like he's fully developed. With that said, both of these are locked up long term, and are both around the same age... which do you think is better now, and which do you think will be better in the future? You pretty much answered your own question...the reason Kronwall gets hate is because he had a sensational year during the lockout and people expected him to make a big impact immediately, whereas this undrafted nobody named Lebda made the team out of nowhere and is developing faster than Kronwall. It's all relative, if Kronwall had made the team as an undrafted nobody people would be impressed with him right now, but expectations for him are much higher than for Lebda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offspring2099 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Kronwall skated up last game and barely missed a nice slapper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan40 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 rest easy, he has retired the mask as of last game sure did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My GF Wishes I Was Hank 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 I dunno, Lebda's speed just impresses me so much. he brings so much to the game with his defensive presence, and the threat of taking the puck coast to coast at anytime is just an awesome weapon to have. Hes even throwing his weight around some what. I would have to say hes the better "all around" player over Kronwal. But in the future they will both improve and will both put up some pretty good offensive numbers as well as keep a strong blue line.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted March 22, 2007 You pretty much answered your own question...the reason Kronwall gets hate is because he had a sensational year during the lockout and people expected him to make a big impact immediately, whereas this undrafted nobody named Lebda made the team out of nowhere and is developing faster than Kronwall. It's all relative, if Kronwall had made the team as an undrafted nobody people would be impressed with him right now, but expectations for him are much higher than for Lebda. Your logic fails. So why aren't we all impressed with Lilja? Wait, I guess we would be if he didn't suck. Never mind! :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 Lebda's looked better in the short-term, Kronwall has more long-term potential in terms of overall 'production' for the way both guys play IMO. That doesn't mean that Lebda has hit any peak and can't play anymore by any stretch of the imagination. Both are going to be important to the Wings for years to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperCalaFilppulastic! 34 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 Lebda's looked better in the short-term, Kronwall has more long-term potential in terms of overall 'production' for the way both guys play IMO. That doesn't mean that Lebda has hit any peak and can't play anymore by any stretch of the imagination. Both are going to be important to the Wings for years to come. I think that is exactly it. I personally don't think Lebda has peaked at all and fully expect him to keep improving to a considerable degree. With the kind of defensive mentors on this team, it could make up for any previous shortcomings. Speed alone is a valuable asset nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 (edited) The management certainly has high hopes for Kronwall judging by that contract alone, I can just hope that his deal turns out to be a good one for the Wings! And Lebda has been stellar, especially for a guy basically coming out of nowhere. Boy can he skate. Both of them will only get better and hopefully stay with this team for the long term. Edited March 22, 2007 by FinWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 The management thinks highly of both of them or else they wouldn't be getting a lot of playing time as young Ds. Personally I like Kronwall's style of hockey since I was like that, but Lebda has the golden star right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 I think they are both great players...But I love the speed Lebda has! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 Lebda has shown development - Kronwall seems to have stalled. Where is all this offensive skills that has been raved about? I want him to be great but Kronner just seems to have taken a few steps back; where Lebda has shown improvement especially when he rushes the puck with his great speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 where Lebda has shown improvement especially when he rushes the puck with his great speed. This isn't a comparison between the two players, but besides that, Lebda is the same Lebda as last year. Not great defensively, not great offensively, a speedy defensemen fast defensemen who can make up for his mistakes by his footspeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 I was at the game , but I was in the nsoe bleeds so i coudlnt see , anyways im ahppy the mask is gone Are yuo typnig wiht a cast no? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 I wouldn't worry too much, they'll only need to be up to 2nd and 3rd pairing mins when Jakub gets here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sy19captain 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 Thinking they both will be good. If Kronner stays healthy for a full year and settles down. He has had his full share of injuries over the years already. I call it the Wings defenseman curse. We have a top D-man go down every year for long stretches at a time for the last six years. Lebda is like "wow". When was the last time you seen a defenseman take it from end to end. Learning from Cheli doesn't hurt either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 Kronwall got hurt last year and this year. He just needs to stay healthy to get better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
