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#1 redwinger4747

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:18 PM

I was wondering what people think are Lidstrom's chances of capturing a 5th Norris trophy as of now? I know he has been the front runner all season, but Niedermayer seems to be creeping up. He is a few points ahead of Lidstrom (along with Gonchar who doesn't matter) but thankfully was pointless tonight. I think Lids is deserving especially being +36, but unfortunately doesn't lead the league in that category anymore. I'd like to think Lids is a 2:1 favorite still but you never know. What have the experts been saying lately and what do you guys feel about it?

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:19 PM

Its in the bag.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:21 PM

I think Lidstrom has got it for the 5th time.

In my opinion Lidstrom is more respected throughout the NHL and I think has a better fan base.
So in that case he will take it, with Neidermayer as the runner up.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:24 PM

A lock.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:25 PM

He's going to win it.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:31 PM

Totally. He's got it.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:34 PM

I would say he's got it, but if he didn't and anybody other than Niedermayer won it I would be incredibly upset. Having said that I don't think you need to worry, Lidstrom is going to win.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:37 PM

Nick has it locked down clap.gif
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:39 PM

I think he's got it thumbup.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:40 PM

Wow everyone is very confident, I'm a little worried, I really want him to win it again.

....#5 is next. Yzerman & Lidstrom = Gods.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:47 PM

Hes got it , Niedermayer at second , and my buddy Andreas will be thrid in voting biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:51 PM

I really hope he grabs a bunch of points in these final games and maybe lift that +/- a little to ease my tension.

....#5 is next. Yzerman & Lidstrom = Gods.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 10:51 PM

Lidstrom has been the best all season and should win.

Niedermayer won't win it by the simple fact he hasn't been the best defenseman on his team. Pronger won't win because he missed a ton of time with injury and when healthy was making a case for the Norris but certainly wasn't as consistently as good as Nick has been all year.

Lidstrom should win, with Pronger and Nieds well behind him and close to each other as the remaining finalists.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:02 PM

I hope all you guys are right. thumbup.gif Go Lids and now Go WINGS in the playoffs!!! Red Wave baby! goal.gif goal.gif goal.gif

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:05 PM

I think Pronger and Niedermayer hurt each other's Norris chances by being on the same team...Lidstrom will win it without a doubt, it's just a question of by how much.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:10 PM

He's still the best overall defenseman in the league - though maybe not the most dominant as witnessed by Pronger last year in the playoffs. Having said that, his salary still pisses me off. I sure hope he does an Yzerman as he gets on in years.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:11 PM

As much as I'd love for him to win it, I'm nervous that he won't.

But, I'd prefer to see a Stanley Cup instead of another Norris. champs.gif
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:11 PM

Who in their right mind would vote for anyone else? Nick does it all, while making it look effortless. He has to win it.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:14 PM

I don't know why Pheneuf doesn't get more love. He is a huge physical force w/ skills as well. He pretty much carries the Flamers on the blue line except for the randomness of Hamerlik
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(clutchngrab @ March 29, 2007 - 12:10AM) View Post
He's still the best overall defenseman in the league - though maybe not the most dominant as witnessed by Pronger last year in the playoffs. Having said that, his salary still pisses me off. I sure hope he does an Yzerman as he gets on in years.


Lidstrom is tied with two others as the third highest paid player in the NHL. If you polled all the GMs and Coaches who the top five players were, Lidstrom would likely come up on most, if not all, ballots.

Jagr is the only other player that makes in Nick's range who even has a CHANCE at claiming that, and with guys like Iginla, Ovechkin, Thornton, Crosby, Hossa and others outperforming him as forwards, he wouldn't. Richards, Sundin, and Yashin don't even come close.

Lidstrom won his fourth Norris last year, and agreed to the SAME SALARY HE WAS MAKING. By comparison, Chara just signed a deal worth 7.5m. Chara was a Norris finalist once in his career. Other guys haven't even done what Chara has and have sick deals.

So, to recap:
Chara=1 Norris finalist, 1 First-team=7.5m.
Lidstrom=4 Norris wins, 7 Norris finalists, 7 First teams, 1 Conn Smythe.=7.6m
Jovanovski=Nothing accomplished=7m
McCabe=Nothing accomplished=7.15m

And then you have:
Pronger=1 Norris win, 1 Hart win, 3 Norris finalists, 1 First team=6.25m
Niedermayer=1 Norris win, 2 Norris finalists, 2 First teams=6.75m

Consider that Lidstrom has accomplished more than Niedermayer and Pronger COMBINED. Even should Pronger and Nirdermayer finish as First teamers this year and one of them win the Norris, Lidstrom still has more Norris trophies than Prongermayer (
would be 4-3), has been a Norris finalist more often (would be 8-7), and more first team selections (would be 7-5). Pronger's Hart is offset by Lidstrom's Smythe.

Lidstrom at 7.6m is a bargain. Iginla and Lecavalier are the only other players making 7m+ who play like they deserve it, and neither is as deserving of his paycheck as Lids is of his. Martin Brodeur is probably the highest paid player who is a better value for the dollar than Nick...and that's because Brodeur is VASTLY underpaid and will likely take home the Hart this summer.

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