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#1 Wings3:16

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:17 AM

Just read on Spector's that Datsyuk will be using Marc Savard's 5 mill per season/4 Seasons to compare with his contract negotiations...Not a bad sign, I'd sign him to that much.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:22 AM

Sounds good to me if he averages a goal a game during the playoffs.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:22 AM

I dunno. If Datsyuk asked for $20 M/4 yrs, then I think he would be signed by now.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE(RyanBarnes! @ March 29, 2007 - 12:22PM) View Post

I dunno. If Datsyuk asked for $20 M/4 yrs, then I think he would be signed by now.



agreed ...... 5 million is nothing , if he was to hit the open market he would easily get 6-7 from some desperate team
if it was a 20 mill 4 yr deal , the deal would of been done along time ago

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:26 AM

Sign him. It would be quite right price and the cap is also rising in the future.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:27 AM

5 mil a year is a great price, I think hes asking for more since he isn't signed yet.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:28 AM

If he s***s himself in the playoffs again this year and still gets anywhere near $5mil I'll be pissed. He looks good this season, he's been the only productive player in Zetterberg's absence, so I would imagine this is the year he shows a little resolve in the postseason. If he doesn't, let him walk and sign Daniel Briere in his place.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Wings3:16 @ March 29, 2007 - 11:17AM) View Post

Just read on Spector's that Datsyuk will be using Marc Savard's 5 mill per season/4 Seasons to compare with his contract negotiations...Not a bad sign, I'd sign him to that much.

Linky poo: http://www.boston.co...d_sweet/?page=3

(bottom article)


I would think he is using Savard's contract as a starting point looking up. Good sign anyway, should keep that 7mil/year nonsense down.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(RyanBarnes! @ March 29, 2007 - 11:22AM) View Post

I dunno. If Datsyuk asked for $20 M/4 yrs, then I think he would be signed by now.

I gotta agree. I'm sure Dats is probably looking for a figure around $6-$6.5 mil. With how he's played this season (especially as of late) if he was asking for $20 M/4 yrs, I believe Kenny would have locked him up, even with his playoff performance still up in the air.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(Never Forget Mac #25 @ March 29, 2007 - 12:28PM) View Post

I gotta agree. I'm sure Dats is probably looking for a figure around $6-$6.5 mil. With how he's played this season (especially as of late) if he was asking for $20 M/4 yrs, I believe Kenny would have locked him up, even with his playoff performance still up in the air.


What are the add-ons of Savard's deal? Maybe he is just looking at number of years and incentives as the strcuture of the deal, not the amount? Cause 5 would have been accepted last month.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:36 AM

that's not a bad price, but i would wait until playoffs to see if he is a difference maker or if he plays like he has in the past. but i guess if we dont sign him right away and he does play well come playoff time then it will be a lot harder to sign him. i say sign him now. keep dats in hockeytown

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 12:14 PM

God, I am tried of the bashing of our best player (look at the numbers and the rankings).

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The playoffs are a lightning rod for Datsyuk's detractors. In the past three postseasons, Datsyuk has tallied no goals and nine assists in 21 games. At the same time, however, no Red Wing has been an offensive standout over the past three playoffs. Brendan Shanahan had just one more point than Datsyuk over those three years. Nicklas Lidstrom had the same number of points. Steve Yzerman had just one more point than Datsyuk.


So, does that mean Shanny, Yzerman and Lidstrom are all playoff choking experts too? PERHAPS, JUST GOD DAMN PERHAPS there might be a reason while all those players failed to produce in the playoffs in the same time period. Hmm, let's think. How about coaching for one - talking Dave Lewis here? That leaves last year

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In fact, Yzerman was one of Datsyuk's biggest supporters after the post-season a year ago, saying that people didn't realize how injured badly injured that the Russian was. Datsyuk had to have fluid drained from his thigh during the playoffs.


And Yzerman sees Datsyuk as our future. Let me get this right, some of you know more about hockey and hockey players than Stevief****** Yzerman? This isn't about being a homer for Datsyuk, this is about commen sense. This team without Datsyuk would be hard pressed to make it INTO the playoffs.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE(LivingtheDream @ March 29, 2007 - 01:14PM) View Post

God, I am tried of the bashing of our best player (look at the numbers and the rankings).



So, does that mean Shanny, Yzerman and Lidstrom are all playoff choking experts too? PERHAPS, JUST GOD DAMN PERHAPS there might be a reason while all those players failed to produce in the playoffs in the same time period. Hmm, let's think. How about coaching for one - talking Dave Lewis here? That leaves last year



And Yzerman sees Datsyuk as our future. Let me get this right, some of you know more about hockey and hockey players than Stevief****** Yzerman? This isn't about being a homer for Datsyuk, this is about commen sense. This team without Datsyuk would be hard pressed to make it INTO the playoffs.


I have to agree with you on your last point. Without Dats there would be two hugef****** holes in our team. A first line playmaker and a powerplay forward QB. No one else would be able to fill those holes in our current lineup if he signs somewhere else, we would be forced to pay through the nose for Briere or someone else more expensive.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 12:51 PM

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Yzerman was one of Datsyuk's biggest supporters after the post-season a year ago, saying that people didn't realize how injured badly injured that the Russian was. Datsyuk had to have fluid drained from his thigh during the playoffs.


And the playoffs before did'nt he have a boken hand or something else...I seem to remember him being injured then too.

so to bag on his playoffs is not really understanding, or at the very least ignoring, significant contributing factors to performance....It would be nice if all of the players were machines like Lidstrom but alas it is not the case.

That being said, 6 mil is fine with me but I would prefer a 5-5.5 with incentive bonuses...perhaps linked to personal playoff performance with a total comp package in the 6-6.5 range MAX....and Ibet that is what he gets.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE(brutus @ March 29, 2007 - 01:51PM) View Post

And the playoffs before did'nt he have a boken hand or something else...I seem to remember him being injured then too.

so to bag on his playoffs is not really understanding, or at the very least ignoring, significant contributing factors to performance....It would be nice if all of the players were machines like Lidstrom but alas it is not the case.

That being said, 6 mil is fine with me but I would prefer a 5-5.5 with incentive bonuses...perhaps linked to personal playoff performance with a total comp package in the 6-6.5 range MAX....and Ibet that is what he gets.

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I don't know. $5 mill is a lot of jack for a guy that hasn't scored a playoff goal in close to 5 calender years. Think about that. He hasn't bent the twine in nearly half a decade.

And what is this going to do with Zetterbergs contract? If Dats gets $5/year then Zetts will demand $7 million a year.

I think Datsyuk would be a good deal for $18/4 with the backend heavier than the front end.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE(Wings_Dynasty @ March 29, 2007 - 01:22PM) View Post

Sounds good to me if he averages a goal a game during the playoffs.


laugh.gif Yeah. If he averages a goal a game during the playoffs he'll be asking (rightfully so) for a HELL of a lot more.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 03:18 PM

The article does state that the $5 million that Savard makes is a "starting point." From there, Datsyuk is only going to look for more incentives.

$100,000 for every playoff goal, anyone?

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE(Wings3:16 @ March 29, 2007 - 12:17PM) View Post

Just read on Spector's that Datsyuk will be using Marc Savard's 5 mill per season/4 Seasons to compare with his contract negotiations...Not a bad sign, I'd sign him to that much.

Linky poo: http://www.boston.co...d_sweet/?page=3

(bottom article)


That article said nothing about comparison. It said as a starting point. Which means he will start at 5 and go towards 8 or as much as he can get. You also make it sound like "Dats" is using that as a comparision. Thats just some writers opinion.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(RyanBarnes! @ March 29, 2007 - 12:22PM) View Post

I dunno. If Datsyuk asked for $20 M/4 yrs, then I think he would be signed by now.


You're right, It wouldve been done by now. Even if Detroit was waiting around to see what Datsyuk does in the playoff, that contract would is a very tradeable one should Datsyuk continue to stink it up in the playoffs.

I dont buy this for a second. Im figuring this is more like HOLLAND's starting point than Datsyuk and his agent's.

QUOTE(Hank @ March 29, 2007 - 03:13PM) View Post

I think Datsyuk would be a good deal for $18/4 with the backend heavier than the front end.



You think Datsyuk will stick around for a lousy 4.5M a season?? You need to give your head a shake if you dont think there are at least 5 teams out there who would offer Datsyuk 6M per season and chalk his playoff lack of success up to him not having top-tier linemates.

After Ovechkin talking to the media about how the Caps need to sign some good players, Id be willing to be bet the Caps would thrown down that money quickly and sign him to a long term contract. Atlanta might see a center like Datsyuk as their final step to greatness as well, playing alongside Kovalchuk. LAs in the hunt for a first line center too and Frolov needs one badly.

Holland will not insult Datsyuk with 4.5M a season. Not to mention, an Eastern team - in a conference that is known for its wide open offesnse and media attention - would easily grab one of the most exciting players who could put up 100 regular season points on a yearly basis easy.

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 04:09 PM

yeah you guys are right. yes sir, whatever makes you happy. No opinoin here. Mum is the word.

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