Detroit Vs Calgary Predictions

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Really? I think what you are saying is pretty bold. Bertuzzi has not returned to his original form from before the Steve Moore incident. He has had a lot of injury time since that. So perhaps there is an impact player buried somewhere in there. But until I see him start playing good, I think it's a safe bet that he is a non-factor. Every time he touches the puck in Calgary he will booed. Booed hard. Whether that will get to him or motivate will no be known till Tuesday. But I think the pressure on him will be too much and he won't live up to the expectations a lot of you Detroit fans have put on him.

That's the thing, there is no pressur eon him. He is usually on a team where he is expected to be a game breaker every night. He is here to be a physical presence, that's it. The only way he let's down fans here is if he floats around and doesn't get involved in the play. He is expected to mix it up, hit people, and take feeds from Pavel and Lang.

So far, after that long of an injury time, 2 goals in 8 games is impressive to me. Plus the fact that people injure themselves when they run into him. He's not the same player you faced, true, but he's not on the Canucks either.

[Burninator 0]

That's the thing, there is no pressur eon him. He is usually on a team where he is expected to be a game breaker every night. He is here to be a physical presence, that's it. The only way he let's down fans here is if he floats around and doesn't get involved in the play. He is expected to mix it up, hit people, and take feeds from Pavel and Lang.

So far, after that long of an injury time, 2 goals in 8 games is impressive to me. Plus the fact that people injure themselves when they run into him. He's not the same player you faced, true, but he's not on the Canucks either.

I think you are down playing his role. For a player making over $5 million a season he should be a little more than a physical presence, he should be getting 70+ points. When Detroit picked him up from Florida they were looking for a rental player that would do more than push people around. I'm sure they could find someone for a much better value that isn't a plague on his team. (A plague because all the negative attention he brings with him) A lot of the people on this board seem very animate that he be one of the cogs in the gear that will bring Calgary down. And I think if are you betting on him having that much of a role you will be disappointed. Eight games is pretty tough to make a decisive decision on a player like him. He is a roller coaster, he either plays decent or is totally invisible.

[gameover 0]

first two games are critical for the wings to hold serve...dont need to creating doubt right off the bat.

Also going to need Datsyuk to produce this time around...

As well as the wings 2nd line....remember when we could roll 4 at you?

With all the talk about how Detroit is bigger and grittier -- I'm not buying it until I see it. Talk is real, real cheap.

The Wings PP has got to be better than it has been in the last month.

Wings in 7.

If they dont win this series -- someone get the spatula out for babcock -- to scrape him up off the cement. They brought him in here to get deep into the playoffs -- 2 years of 1st round exits will go over like a fart in church.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

I think you are down playing his role. For a player making over $5 million a season he should be a little more than a physical presence, he should be getting 70+ points. When Detroit picked him up from Florida they were looking for a rental player that would do more than push people around. I'm sure they could find someone for a much better value that isn't a plague on his team. (A plague because all the negative attention he brings with him) A lot of the people on this board seem very animate that he be one of the cogs in the gear that will bring Calgary down. And I think if are you betting on him having that much of a role you will be disappointed. Eight games is pretty tough to make a decisive decision on a player like him. He is a roller coaster, he either plays decent or is totally invisible.

1. Detroit is not paying him $5 million. His cap hit is under $2 million.

2. Adamant, not animate.

3. Once again, no one is expecting him to steal games. Wings fans know play-off Bertuzzi well, we want a mean grinder who parks in front of the net and causes problems. If he floats around and only occasionally gets involved, the first people who will complain are on this board. But, if he does do his job, Calgary will have to do more than trap and dump for 3 periods against 1 line. They will have 2 highly skilled offensive lines to shut down.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Last time Calgary were in Detroit , we made Kipper look foolish in the first 15 minutes , That was with Macdonald in net

Nuff Said

[Rice 42]

I think that's even bolder. The Flames have played against Bertuzzi many, many times. From 03 on, I can't think of a time he was ever the deciding factor in any game.

Honestly I'm quite surprised at all the Bertuzzi love here after 8 games. I'd say with 4 pts in 8 games the jury is still out.

Bertuzzi wasn't brought here to be a deciding factor. He was brought here to be a thorn in the side of the other team. If he knocks Kiprusoff on his ass a few times this series and pounds Calgary's defense I'd say he's done his job.

[Burninator 0]

1. Detroit is not paying him $5 million. His cap hit is under $2 million.

2. Adamant, not animate.

3. Once again, no one is expecting him to steal games. Wings fans know play-off Bertuzzi well, we want a mean grinder who parks in front of the net and causes problems. If he floats around and only occasionally gets involved, the first people who will complain are on this board. But, if he does do his job, Calgary will have to do more than trap and dump for 3 periods against 1 line. They will have 2 highly skilled offensive lines to shut down.

Uhh no one? You said he will be a bigger force than everyone on the Flames besides Iginla and Kiprusoff. Sounds like a deciding factor to me.

I know Detroit isn't paying him that, but at one time he was considered a highly skilled player worthy of such of pay. Obviously no one would pay him that much now. All I was getting at (from my original post) was that Bertuzzi has been a let down every since he was suspended. I've seen him play numerous times after the suspension and he played no better than a mediocre third line player, netting occasional points. I see the role you are now expecting of him, which is reasonable. As a Calgary supporter I am not worried about him at all. But of course we will see what happens come game time tonight.

[tantalum 0]

Bertuzzi may not show up on the scoresheet as much as he probably should but I can almost guarantee he will create some turnovers and absolutely level a few calgary blueliners like he did to Jackman a few years ago. He will show up for the playoffs IMO and that will cause all sorts of headaches for the flames defence. They will have to deal with both Holmstrom and Bertuzzi in front of the net and down low.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Uhh no one? You said he will be a bigger force than everyone on the Flames besides Iginla and Kiprusoff. Sounds like a deciding factor to me.

I know Detroit isn't paying him that, but at one time he was considered a highly skilled player worthy of such of pay. Obviously no one would pay him that much now. All I was getting at (from my original post) was that Bertuzzi has been a let down every since he was suspended. I've seen him play numerous times after the suspension and he played no better than a mediocre third line player, netting occasional points. I see the role you are now expecting of him, which is reasonable. As a Calgary supporter I am not worried about him at all. But of course we will see what happens come game time tonight.

A. I meant a 100% healthy Bertuzzi, not the Bert that played the first 2 games, the one that played the next 6.

B. He won't play tonight. We will see Sunday.

[Viperar 16]

I think that's even bolder. The Flames have played against Bertuzzi many, many times. From 03 on, I can't think of a time he was ever the deciding factor in any game.

Honestly I'm quite surprised at all the Bertuzzi love here after 8 games. I'd say with 4 pts in 8 games the jury is still out.

4 points in 8 games after nearly 2 seasons of not playing...id say thats pretty good

[MickMcGeough 0]

Bertuzzi wasn't brought here to be a deciding factor. He was brought here to be a thorn in the side of the other team. If he knocks Kiprusoff on his ass a few times this series and pounds Calgary's defense I'd say he's done his job.

You must not have read the post I was responding to. Wings_Dynasty is pretty sure he's a bigger impact player than any Flame besides Kipper & Iggy. I would tend to disagree.

I'm sure Bert will make some noise at some point in this series. Just not as much noise as the dome will every time he's near the puck

[Thor 0]

Just wanted to say hi to the Wings fans and wish your team the best of luck. I'm sure it will be an exciting series and of course I'll take Calgary in 7 but I'm worried about this years Wings, a much improved team.

Here's to a great series!

[calfan 0]

I predict that the only time Dats goes through the slot in the Flames end is after the whistle.

I predict that Bert never plays until game 4 and is not an important part of this series.

I predict that Zetterberg's back will be killing him 3/10ths of a second after he touches the puck in Game 1.

I predict that none of the Wing's Europeans will accept a pass anywhere in the vicinity of Dion Phaneuf.

I predict that Calder and Iginla will fight.

I predict that Regehr will not play until game 3.

I predict that Iginla will not dominate this series and we will find out later that his knee is still a problem.

I predict that Hasek will be his frustrating best.

I predict that Kipper will be his frustrating best.

I predict the role players will win this series.

I predict the Wings in 6.

[Thor 0]

I predict Wings/Flames fans will still hate the Canucks more than life itself.

[Winged Scooter 0]

I also say a 7 games series, but with the Wings winning , of course!

[Lou_Siffer 1]

I predict that Calder and Iginla will fight.

Where'd you come up with that one? Calder doesnt fight, and would get obliterated. If Iggy's fighting, it'll be against Lilja or Markov (most likely Lilja)

Edited April 12, 2007 by Lou_Siffer

[calfan 0]

Where'd you come up with that one? Calder doesnt fight, and would get obliterated. If Iggy's fighting, it'll be against Lilja or Markov (most likely Lilja)

Could be - I just keep reading all of this crap that the Wings are a grittier team because of Calder and Bert. Iggy's gonna fight someone, we both know that. Lilja it is then.

[ColdWarrior 0]

wings in 7 because flames will play us tough and win in overtime in one game, Hasek will have one bad game, and in their last win we will have a hard time scoring.

GO WINGS!!!

Nice to see a fellow AF winger here. How's Cheyenne treating you? My first assignment was malmstrom... a long long time ago...

[ColdWarrior 0]

I think that's even bolder. The Flames have played against Bertuzzi many, many times. From 03 on, I can't think of a time he was ever the deciding factor in any game.

Honestly I'm quite surprised at all the Bertuzzi love here after 8 games. I'd say with 4 pts in 8 games the jury is still out.

Actually I'd call it 4 pts in 3 games... after getting blanked for 5 games while he adjusted after 5 months off & on a new team. I'd call that all good.

I still predict a Bert-Iggy fight at some point.

[eva unit zero 271]

Could be - I just keep reading all of this crap that the Wings are a grittier team because of Calder and Bert. Iggy's gonna fight someone, we both know that. Lilja it is then.

This is one place Jiri Fischer is missed.

He'd definitely be available to pound Iggy...

[theman19 47]

I predict that the only time Dats goes through the slot in the Flames end is after the whistle.[/i]strike one

I predict that Bert never plays until game 4 and is not an important part of this series. whoops, is comming game two

I predict that Zetterberg's back will be killing him 3/10ths of a second after he touches the puck in Game 1.strike two

I predict that none of the Wing's Europeans will accept a pass anywhere in the vicinity of Dion Phaneuf.how many strikes are in baseball till your out?

I predict that Calder and Iginla will fight.Not a chance, now lilja and iggy sure.

I predict that Regehr will not play until game 3. hope so

I predict that Iginla will not dominate this series and we will find out later that his knee is still a problem.I agree, he looked lost out there offensively

I predict that Hasek will be his frustrating best.yup

I predict that Kipper will be his frustrating best.yup, to bad his team let him down

I predict the role players will win this series. like franzen, and Hudler

I predict the Wings in 6. I agree, but if your team gets blown out again it could be a sweep,..there i said it.

fixed it for ya

Edited April 13, 2007 by theman19

[Guest GodofHockeyStevieY19]

Flames in 6 - no doubt in my mind

Wanna re-think that one there buddy? Wings in 5. NO DOUBT IN MY MIND.

Edited April 15, 2007 by GodofHockeyStevieY19