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#21 RedRum #1

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:15 AM

As someone said before, stick a fork in Lang. I know NeverForgetMac hates to hear it but Bob's ship has sailed. I hope this opens everyones eyes to what Lang has really been...outside of the Nashville series his playoff points have been as a PP specialist littered with seconday assists to go along with his atrocious play in the defensive end. Samuelsson is awful, but he at least forechecks...he at least skates!

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:23 AM

Hey c'mon. look at the bright side - he's now the 2nd slowest skater on the team - I lost it when he went offside when Bert was trying to gain the zone - slow and slower! Keep those two away from the salt lick!

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:28 AM

Yeah why did Lang take that faceoff? Its not like he is a great faceoff guy

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE(The Nephilim @ April 18, 2007 - 01:39AM) View Post

He wasn't even half ready when the puck was feathered to his tape. That shows how little hunger there is there. When you watch Draper take a face-off--that's hunger. I think Lang had thrown in the towel in the last two critical faceoffs, which is absurd.

Lets see Lang sucks i think that sums it up..

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:00 AM

Can not wait till we free up that 3.5 million next year

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:02 AM

Lang is useless. He fit in the old style but not the new NHL style. Get him out of there...my God.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:03 AM

Of course he shouldn't play. Him and his linemates were totally invisible in Game 3.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:06 AM



Robert Languish?

he's been terrible.



But how about that Pain Train?!?! Woo Wooo ! awesome game from him last night.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:20 AM

bring back huds, and get rid of lang. look at there stats that enough proof

Lang
Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW Shots Pct
2006-2007 81 19 33 52 12 66 6 0 4 166 11.4


Hudler
Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW Shots Pct
2006-2007 76 15 10 25 16 36 3 0 4 107 14.0


*lang may have more goals but huds has more goal with less shots.
*huds has more goals and points with half as much ice time
*hudlers +/- is better than lang.


just more evidence lang should fall of some clif.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:25 AM

Someone noted before why Lang gets his own thread, but why no one is harping on Sammy and Lidstrom (although there appears to be a threat about the latter, and the former is getting bashed here too). But anyways, this is how I see it:

I think we can fairly criticize Lang because his play has been poor game in and out for a while. While Lidstrom maybe had a "bad game" last night -- and I don't think he did, even though he was on the ice for at least two of the goals as far as I recall - he plays more minutes than anyone on any team...and is always solid. It's got to be tough to play against Iginla, no less.

As for Sammy, he's a younger guy who makes around a quarter of Lang's salary. In the cap world, I suppose your play has to be proportional to your price tag. I agree that it is strange to see Sammy on the PP point. One would think our lesson was learned with Williams. However, short of throwing another forward out there, who would probably be either slow or even younger than Sammy, the defensemen include Markov, Lilja and Chelios, none of whom are offensive dynamos either. Actually, if he can play the minutes I wouldn't mind seeing what Chelios could do out there. After Markov's bonehead play at the offensive blueline last night, I would be a bit afriad to throw him out there. Also, he seems never to be able to keep the shot low/hit the net at all. And Lilja needs no comment. I like how he has been playing, but just not when he touches the puck.

But back to the topic of Lang, my personal vision of the lines would be a tendency towards:
Hank - Dats - Homer
Maltby-Draps- Cleary
Bert - Fillipula - Calder
Franzen-Lang-Sammy
I suppose this is not far from how they've been. But I don't like Lang and Bert together, and I think they ought to be seperated. We know Lang is slow, and while Bert can glid out there and get around guys, I have to think he's not a top-flight skater at this point. If Calder and Franzen and/or Sammy mixed around, that also wouldn't bother me. The key is that Draps' line deserves plenty of ice time considering their awesome play last night.

That became a long post.....I'll simply end by predicting a 4-3 Wings OT win on Thursday.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:32 AM

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But I don't like Lang and Bert together, and I think they ought to be seperated.
Neither do i, and neither does Babcock...just look at what he did last night. He started Bert out with Flip and Franzen (two good defensive guys) and when he finally put Bert with Lang he moved Draper (good defensive guy) to play with them. The way I see it Babs wants no part of Lang and Bert together unless one of our best defensive guys is with them.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:55 AM

Wasn't hudles getting a majority of his points while being a line mate of Lang?

If my recollection is correct, than wouldn't benching Lang to bring up Hudles rather moot?

Sammy should be the logical decision... But I do see why babs is drawn to him... That 5point last regular season game... was damn impressive and worthy of many minutes in the post season. rolleyes.gif

Edited by OsGOD, 18 April 2007 - 09:56 AM.




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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE(YoungGuns1340 @ April 18, 2007 - 01:12AM) View Post

Filppula should be, without a doubt, our 2nd line center.

Dats-Hank-Homer
Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Lang-Hudler
Maltby-Draper-Calder

DONE and DONE



Yea i like the looks of this although it should look a lil different we cant put Lang on our checking line and Cleary should be back with Draps:

Dats-Hank-Homer
Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi
Maltby-Draper-Cleary
Hudler-Lang-Calder


#34 RedRum #1

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:06 AM

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Wasn't hudles getting a majority of his points while being a line mate of Lang?

If my recollection is correct, than wouldn't benching Lang to bring up Hudles rather moot?
If you're implying that Hudler needs Lang to be effective therefore Lang needs to stay in the line-up...I strongly disagree. Hudler would be fine playing with anybody.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:27 AM

QUOTE(RedRum #1 @ April 18, 2007 - 11:06AM) View Post

If you're implying that Hudler needs Lang to be effective therefore Lang needs to stay in the line-up...I strongly disagree. Hudler would be fine playing with anybody.


Actually I am implying the opposite... Lang performed quite nicely with Huddles as his pairing... not so much when seperated. If Huddles can play with anybody and Lang plays much better with Huddles... Wouldn't it only be common sense to play to the strengths of TWO players instead of just one?



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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE(YoungGuns1340 @ April 17, 2007 - 11:12PM) View Post

Filppula should be, without a doubt, our 2nd line center.

Dats-Hank-Homer
Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Lang-Hudler
Maltby-Draper-Calder

DONE and DONE


Those lines would be amazing against Calgary's grit and speed. However you need to put Cleary in place of Maltby on the 4th line. Draper and Cleary were amazing last night so do not split them up.

Dats-Hank-Homer
Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi
Maltby-Lang-Hudler
Cleary-Draper-Calder

Then you have 3 amazing lines and the 3rd line to be used when we need to give the big guns a rest.

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#37 GordieSid&Ted

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE(MrSandMan @ April 18, 2007 - 11:32AM) View Post

I argued about Lang before the season started. Everyone basically called me a troll and I have no clue about hockey (you know who you are)

Everyone was defending Lang tooth and nail. And their biggest defense was 'wait til the post season, you'll be eating crow'

And here I am, NOT eating crow!

I don't like Lang, I never liked Lang, and never will like Lang. He's lazy and he sucks.

I knew we were in trouble that game... the first 10 minutes of the 1st Lang coughed up the puck and created a 3 on 1.

Then in the 3rd when he stood out in front of the net with his thumb up his ass instead of shooting the puck.

Lang should be benched, Hudler will do a much better job.



Talk about selective memory. I'll say this, Lang hasn't played very well so far. He's got 1 assist and he's EVEN through three games. Not exactly lighting it up.

HOWEVER, Lang wasn't the reason we lost that game last night.

Even though he's the greatest dman in the game, Lidstrom helped cause 2 goals against last night.

The first one by Giordano, Lids put too close to Z's skates which is why he couldn't field it cleanly.
Then he made an uncharacteristic gaff on the Iginla goal by allowing the pass to get through and Iginla to get around him. Two direct goals scored there that had nothing to do with Lang.

Furthermore, we didn't lose that game because Lang turned over the puck or because he didn't get that shot off late in the 3rd. We lost that game because we got ouplayed. Calgary had the better legs and they won more individual battles. Calgary also improved on their ability to maintain posession of the puck.

More puck possession by Calgary
More shots on goal by Calgary
Better face off numbers by Calgary
More individual battles won by Calgary

Less puck possession by Detroit
Less one on one battles won by Detroit
2 Gaffs by Lidstrom

Calgary wanted it more and they deserved that win. The only solace I take from it was that we didn't play great and we had a 2-1 lead and could've stolen that game whereas Calgary had to be nearly flawless to beat us. If we play just a little better we ought to beat them even if they play a great game.

Lang haters are fooling themselves if they want to pin this loss on him or single him out. Lidstrom should've been the first player singled out and furthermore the entire team should've been singled out because of their lack of fight in the corners and along the boards allowing Calgary to win more than their fair share of battles.

PS: Lang isn't doing it on the scoresheet but he's picked up his defensive game and is backchecking his ass off. But I wouldn't expect Lang haters to have noticed any of that.


The Drapes line gets a pass as they were the only line to consistently play in Calgary's end, the only line to score and the only line consistently winning battles down low.

Dats also spent a s***load of time on his ass. I remember seeing him go down like 3 times and thinking, oh crap Dats is having one of those games where he's weak on his skates and he's gonna be a no show. And he was.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(GordieSid&Ted @ April 18, 2007 - 11:42AM) View Post

Talk about selective memory. I'll say this, Lang hasn't played very well so far. He's got 1 assist and he's EVEN through three games. Not exactly lighting it up.

HOWEVER, Lang wasn't the reason we lost that game last night.

Even though he's the greatest dman in the game, Lidstrom helped cause 2 goals against last night.

The first one by Giordano, Lids put too close to Z's skates which is why he couldn't field it cleanly.
Then he made an uncharacteristic gaff on the Iginla goal by allowing the pass to get through and Iginla to get around him. Two direct goals scored there that had nothing to do with Lang.

Furthermore, we didn't lose that game because Lang turned over the puck or because he didn't get that shot off late in the 3rd. We lost that game because we got ouplayed. Calgary had the better legs and they won more individual battles. Calgary also improved on their ability to maintain posession of the puck.

Lang haters are fooling themselves if they want to pin this loss on him or single him out. Lidstrom should've been the first player singled out and furthermore the entire team should've been singled out because of their lack of fight in the corners and along the boards allowing Calgary to win more than their fair share of battles.

PS: Lang isn't doing it on the scoresheet but he's picked up his defensive game and is backchecking his ass off. But I wouldn't expect Lang haters to have noticed any of that.


These haters must also hate... Zetterberg... I mean Lang has more point than him and lang doesn't even get the priviledge of playing on the first line.

Give all this Lang sucks crap a rest. You all focus so much anger on certain players and give free rides to others who are producing less than they should be 3 games into the post season.



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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:58 AM

I really thought Lang was going to step it up for the playoffs, especially since last year he was one of our better players against Edmonton. Obviously he's not stepping it up though, and his lackluster play has continued. This is really hurting our second line because it seems like no matter who plays with him they are brought down to his level.

So maybe some line combos of-

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Calder-Filpula-Samuelson
Cleary-Draper-Maltby
Hudler-Franzen-Bertuzzi

Or something like that. I don't think the Draper-Cleary-Maltby line should be broken up with the way they've been playing, but the second line needs some serious work for sure.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:01 AM

I think Flip and Bert should definitely be on the same line.





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