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#21 stev0

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE(BlakChamber @ April 21, 2007 - 04:10PM) View Post

The fact that you try to defend Jamie McLennan shows you're a joke.


If the refs don't stop the goaltenders from getting run, someones got to... I'll support him too.

QUOTE(My GF Wishes I Was Hank @ April 21, 2007 - 04:51PM) View Post

I think you are a joke to even sit there and put all the blame on the wings, and i think you are an even bigger joke to tell me that what jamie did is justified.You are a hipocrit because you sit there and say that you can justify the reason that Jamie hit Franzen but then you say " I guess this is reflection of a team that would pick up a player like Todd Bertuzzi" who did the exact same thing that Jamie did. He got hot headed and lost his cool. But you shun bertuzzi for life, and yet Jamie is justified. Go figre.


What McLennan and Bertuzzi did were nothing alike... McLennan barely hit him, but regardless.

Calgary fans don't boo Bertuzzi over the Moore incident, we boo him because he was a canuck. Just like we boo Pronger because he was an oiler.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 05:54PM) View Post

What McLennan and Bertuzzi did were nothing alike... McLennan barely hit him, but regardless.

Baseball swing to the chest, 'tis nothing, eh?

Please, provide examples of Kipper being run. I've already got a reply floating around in this thread:

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:00 PM

While Brett Lebda's hit WAS low, this is not a common occurance, and because of Lebda's reputation, I will say this was an accident. He was the one who was hurt after the play.

There is no excuse for McLennan's slash, Iginla's butt-end or the cross-checks towards the end of the game.
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 06:54PM) View Post


What McLennan and Bertuzzi did were nothing alike... McLennan barely hit him, but regardless.

Calgary fans don't boo Bertuzzi over the Moore incident, we boo him because he was a canuck. Just like we boo Pronger because he was an oiler.


First off what Jamie did is the EXACT same thing. He did waht he did with the intent to injure and to get revenge for a teamate. Bertuzzi hit more because more had knocked out naslund the game before that. And i could care a less as to why you boo him, the fact that he stated that the wings showed what type of team they were because they picked up Bertuzzi makes no sense with what you are trying to say. He clearly meant that we wanted to be a dirty team because Bertuzzi has played dirty. You want to see a dirty player, look at hte Captain of the Flames. Lead by example eh? And he does that so well, if hes ganna play dirty, the rest of the team will as well, and by golly, they are doing just that. GREAT LEADER! LOVING IT! I'm never usually this much of a "homer" and i can usually see each thing from both sides, but this to me is such a one sideded topic....
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 06:54PM) View Post

If the refs don't stop the goaltenders from getting run, someones got to... I'll support him too.
What McLennan and Bertuzzi did were nothing alike... McLennan barely hit him, but regardless.

Calgary fans don't boo Bertuzzi over the Moore incident, we boo him because he was a canuck. Just like we boo Pronger because he was an oiler.



Go troll somewhere else man. Seriously, you may be able to fool some folks around here but you ain't fooling me. You don't believe any of this horses*** you've been spewing and you know it. You want to talk about running into goalies? How many goalie interference calls did the Wings get today, was it 1. I think it was just the Maltby one and the Versus guys and Pierre all said the same thing, Giordano drove Maltby into him and that it shouldn't have been a call. You're just in here to troll and rile people up. You don't fool me you trickster you. Although I appreciate the gamesmanship you know you're full of it and you know you're team was terrible today and you know that Jamie's getting a suspension and that the Flames played like a bunch of out of control sore losers today. I'm going to bed happy tonight knowing my team dominated yours and the only thing you can do is troll our forum to try and get some kind of rise out of folks because you have a need to feel like you can win at something, especially when your team got embarrassed today. Me thinks you are maybe compensating for some inadequacy in a certain area, no?


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:02 PM

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As a hockey fan in general, and a goaltender that has been playing for over 12 years at varying levels I am very disturbed at the lack of respect for goaltenders in this series. Even more so at the Red Wings, this is a team that has shown little to no respect for goaltenders and in general other players on the ice. I guess this is reflection of a team that would pick up a player like Todd Bertuzzi, hits that are low on players, hitting other players into there own goaltender, putting elbows up when other players are coming in for a clean hit. It is no wonder why the Flames backup did what he did in the last few minutes, live by the sword die by the sword… and in what is now becoming true Red Wings style the player over sells something and takes away from the game (not that what he did was right). It has proved to be a classless team, and one of my favorite players in International hockey Kris Draper has sold himself out and started to buy into a system that is not a true reflection of how the game is to be played. From a true hockey fan I am just disgusted at this team and if the flames don’t knock them out of the playoffs I hope the next team does.

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To me, running a goalie means coming in full speed down the wing and putting a shoulder into the goalie. They should be going quickly, hence the term "Running the goalie". Bumping a goalie around the edge of the crease is just a hockey play, and it's been happening both ways. It happens in every series. It happens in the regular season, and it happens in the postseason. It is a penalty, and more often than not, the Wings get called for it.

If you were a true hockey fan, then you would know that the goalie has sparingly been run by either team all series. Bumps, pileups (including defenseman), and poking at the puck while it's in the crease are not "Running the goalie".

The fact that you defend McClennan is deplorable. 95% of the people on this board would condemn our goalie for doing that, you should condemn yours.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:12 PM

McLennan had that hit called by Playfair and you know it, stev0

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:16 PM

I don't care what you think about goalies not being properly protected, if you're defending McLennan's woodchopping swing, you've obviously got no idea about what a reasonable response should be.

Unfortunately, it seems like the Flames never took anger management classes, unbelievable goonery in the last part of the game today.

QUOTE(regwinguofmfan @ April 21, 2007 - 05:12PM) View Post

I see people comparing what Bert did to Mclennan.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

McLennan, ***** that he is needed a weapon in his hand.

That should be assault and he should have been arrested. Isnt that what the faggy canadian press said about McSoerly and Bert?

Ill bet they dont think that way about this situation.


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 07:10PM) View Post

You forgetting that Hasek tried to spear Iginla in the face?


Haha, calling that ***** wave he did a spear is a little much, and most everyone here was calling him an idiot for taking the penalty. It was a little bump by Iggy, a part of the game. Hasek lost it and waved his stick at Iggy. Everyone here was pissed that he lost it and took the penalty, putting us down 5-3. I suggest you take the same attitude toward your players.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:18 PM

alright guys, lets grab the torches and march to Calgary.


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 06:10PM) View Post

There was no intent to injure.. he hit him lightly with the broad side of his stick and Franzen took a dive.

Maybe there was no intent to injure, but how the hell could you possibly justify what Jamie did out there? Tell me how you would react if Hasek had taken a baseball swing at Iginla with his stick. You're a buffoon. What the Flames did today was deplorable, pure and simple.

But I don't expect a response to this post, because you don't have enough class to admit that what McLennan did was wrong. If you think actions like that belong in the game of hockey, you've got another thing coming.


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 05:10PM) View Post

There was no intent to injure.. he hit him lightly with the broad side of his stick and Franzen took a dive.


It was a chop, plain and simple; it was a move made out of anger, plain and simple; it was utterly unacceptable, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. I don't see why you attempt to defend this.

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You forgetting that Hasek tried to spear Iginla in the face?


What a joke. Did you really try to say this? Do you value your credibility? Evidently not.


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE(ShanahanMan @ April 21, 2007 - 05:18PM) View Post

alright guys, lets grab the torches and march to Calgary.


I live in Edmonton, so it's like a 3 hour drive. We'll make a day trip of it, I'll pack sandwiches.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Hemmers @ April 21, 2007 - 05:14PM) View Post

I don't care what you think about goalies not being properly protected, if you're defending McLennan's woodchopping swing, you've obviously got no idea about what a reasonable response should be.

Unfortunately, it seems like the Flames never took anger management classes, unbelievable goonery in the last part of the game today.

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It wasn't a woodchopping swing by any means... that's what i'm trying to say. He should have got a penalty for it, but there was other cheap shots (by both teams) that I thought were alot worse. Iginla had some dirty cross checks in their, some wing tried to take out Lankows knee's, Lankow responded with an uppercut (justified, but still dirty), Datzyuk elbowed Phaneuff in the face while taking a check, etc... That's playoff hockey, people here are crying about it as if Jamie tried to hack off his leg Hextall style.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:22 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 07:10PM) View Post

There was no intent to injure.. he hit him lightly with the broad side of his stick and Franzen took a dive.



HAHAHAHA no intent to injure? your right he though that chopping someone with a full swing into the chest/stomach area would be a good way to "tickle" Franzen. He just wanted to play a friendly game of tickel torture. You are an idiot. Its really showing through now.....
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:22 PM

Thoughts from a first-time poster and long-time wings fan ... I can live with Iginla's actions, if they were isolated they wouldn't be a big deal, the butt-end was iffy and I don't think the intent was to injure, everyone knows he's their sparkplug and when they're down he gets rough to try to fire them up ... on our team we'd love that ...

Huselius is a *****, it was a clean hip check, and that was a sucker punch all the way ...

I've got to agree that McLennan was sent out there for one purpose and he served it ... you can't tell me his frustration boiled over after 15 seconds ...
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE(Hemmers @ April 21, 2007 - 06:21PM) View Post

I live in Edmonton, so it's like a 3 hour drive. We'll make a day trip of it, I'll pack sandwiches.

I love Edmonton fans rooting for Detroit. laugh.gif

It's cool, the Oil are and were light years classier than the Flames, even when they had Cap'n Cross-check (that's Pronger for the uninitiated) on board.
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:23 PM

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It was a chop, plain and simple; it was a move made out of anger, plain and simple; it was utterly unacceptable, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. I don't see why you attempt to defend this.
What a joke. Did you really try to say this? Do you value your credibility? Evidently not.


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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 07:10PM) View Post

There was no intent to injure.. he hit him lightly with the broad side of his stick and Franzen took a dive.
Lick my balls, ****** bag
You forgetting that Hasek tried to spear Iginla in the face?

First off, why are we talking to this moron...

Secondly, read the Forum rules... starting crap and personal attacks has no place here... get lost.

This guy is just here to start crap... let him go back to the whole from which he resides.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE(stev0 @ April 21, 2007 - 04:10PM) View Post

There was no intent to injure.. he hit him lightly with the broad side of his stick and Franzen took a dive.

You forgetting that Hasek tried to spear Iginla in the face?


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