Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 30, 2007 Major deadline acquisitions (by Holland) that didn't come back to Detroit the next year: Dmitri Mironov, 1998 (retired 2001) Wendel Clark, 1999 (retired 2000) Ulf Samuelsson, 1999 (retired 2000) Bill Ranford, 1999 (retired 2000) Major deadline acquisitions (by Holland) that stuck around at least until the next season: Chris Chelios, 1999 Mathieu Schneider, 2003 Robert Lang, 2004 Dmitri Mironov is the only notable player Holland has acquired at the deadline that did not return who played more than one season after leaving. Mironov was the 5th defenseman on the depth chart as a Wing--behind Anders Eriksson. So of the seven notable players Holland has picked up at the deadline, three are still Wings and have played a combined twelve full seasons with Detroit, compared to the total six post-Wings seasons played by deadline acquistions who did not return. The trend seems to point to Bertuzzi and Calder being resigned. Its too bad we didnt pick up Wendel Clark when he was younger , I really liked that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arin 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2007 And Bert's PIM begin to stack up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 1, 2007 How would we sign those players, if they retired the year after we acquired them? None of them retired that same summer...Ranford, Samuelsson, and Clark each played one more season, and Mironov played three...none returned in a Wings sweater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 1, 2007 I think that given a full off-season where he doesn't have an injury or need some type of surgery done, Bert could return to form and be a force next year for the Wings. I'm pretty sure Lang is going to go, meaning Filp will move up to the 2nd line most likely. How about a line of Cleary - Filp - Bert? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justheducks 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 I think that given a full off-season where he doesn't have an injury or need some type of surgery done, Bert could return to form and be a force next year for the Wings. I'm pretty sure Lang is going to go, meaning Filp will move up to the 2nd line most likely. How about a line of Cleary - Filp - Bert? i actually wouldnt be surprised to see bert in a ducks uniform burke is in love with this guys since his days in Van. i highly doubt it though with having to resign jiggy, perry and penner this could be a pricey offseason without even makin any additions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 i hope bert and calder resign with the wings !! calder has got to be hurting right now , he just doesnt seem to be the same player that they picked up at the trade deadline ....i think bert will really get his game going in the duck series !!! go wings!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 He could stay, the Phoenix rumour could be true. He and Jovanoski are good friends are they not? I think he will be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normy P 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 The biggest thing is dependent on his performance through the remainder of the playoffs. Chances are Holland will sign him depending on his price. Forget not we have to give up draft picks if we do indeed resign hi. Cap wise the Wings are sitting good for next season. With the cap expected to rise upwards of 48 million. I believe we are sitting about 30 million but will need a starting goalie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 I think the biggest thing is $$$. If he's willing to take less I know the Wing's org will realize that he's come off a big injury and be willing to give him a shot...if it fits in their budget. I saw more Bert jersies in his first playing week at the Joe than I've ever seen of a newbie player who might not even sign. The Wings will take this into consideration. People like Bert and his size...that will factor in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 A Bert in the hand is worth two in the bush. Two in yourbush maybe! Sorry - - completely classless.. just what jumped immediately to my 'male' mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Two in yourbush maybe! Sorry - - completely classless.. just what jumped immediately to my 'male' mind. That is horrible...I'm going to have to withhold your sig now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 At this point, I'm kinda torn. Some games, he looks like classic big Bert, driving hard to the net and setting up plays. Yet on other nights he looks completely lost, can't handle the puck well, and even looks injured out there. To me, it depends on how he fairs during this series (as well as the next if we make it) as for Calder, I'm really hoping he's injured cause he's playing like crap right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N4C3R 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I think Todd has played well. You have to remember he's missed most of the year due to his injuries. The deeper into the playoffs we go, the more comfortable and effective he will become. My preference would be to sign him to a multi-year deal. His family is close (Ontario), and he really has the opportunity to shine on a team where he's not expected to carry the franchise on his shoulders. The Wings will win the cup this year, and Bertuzzi will be instrumental in the last two series to get it done, cementing his return to Hockeytown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mule39 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I would if he comes fairly reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdWarrior 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Absolutely. However, he hasn't recovered to top form yet... so I'd hope Kenny would do a Hasek-esque incentive based contract just to be safe. With Bert, Franzen, Grigs, Markov, and Lils... that's a lot of hitting power. Hell, even Pavel 'Byng' Datsyuk has made some great hits this series. as for Calder, I'm really hoping he's injured cause he's playing like crap right now. If calder does indeed turn out to be injured... than I hope we give him more of a chance. Again though, after a crappy year w/Philly & a limited playoffs this year... I'd hope we sign him short term & for a reasonable price. If he's not injured & just playing like crap... then let him try his UFA status, but extend an invite to camp on a tryout basis if he wants to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallyjohn 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think we should get someone like Cheechoo, Zajac, or Kariya and if Dom wants to leave we should think about getting Kolzig or a good young player!!!! :idea: :punch: :starwars: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think that if you're in the office, you gotta at the very least offer him a 1 year gig and see what he does in regular season play. He's good, he fills a void for us, he has a great attitude so far, let's see where this can go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermaniac192005 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Bert should stay and probably will. I think he's honestly found a home here in Detroit, he sounds like he really likes the guys around him. I realize if he had his choice he would love to be on Naslund's wing again, but I think he'd sign here with no problem. And the Wings giving up some picks is no big deal at all. Some of our best picks have been late rounders, I.E. Zetts and Dats, so Kenny is probably not going to take that into account when it comes to Bert. He's going to ask him if he's interested and if so he's going to definitely offer him something. Plus Lang will be gone so theres cap space...and I want Calder to stay but it just doesn't look like it. Kyle had been great and I think he has a broken hand, but I'd like to see him back as well, he'd sign for very little I bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor G 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 I think the biggest thing is $$$. If he's willing to take less I know the Wing's org will realize that he's come off a big injury and be willing to give him a shot...if it fits in their budget. I saw more Bert jersies in his first playing week at the Joe than I've ever seen of a newbie player who might not even sign. The Wings will take this into consideration. People like Bert and his size...that will factor in. I agree with you, it will be all about the money. But if I was his agent I would promote his history, send out his portfolio and doctors’ reports to show this guy can be what he use to be. Now if he doesn't receive great offers, the best scenario would be sign for 1 year and show off his talent. Then come back for the big money. Or the Wings could offer an incentive laden contract that offers him the opportunity to make his $$$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted May 19, 2007 How is this even a question? A few years ago he was quite possibly the best player in the Western Conference. He'll get back to his old form, or close to it. Let's sign him and let's definitely dump Lang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted May 19, 2007 How is this even a question? A few years ago he was quite possibly the best player in the Western Conference. He'll get back to his old form, or close to it. Let's sign him and let's definitely dump Lang. Jay!!!! Long time no see!!! Its Cary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bartek 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2007 How is this even a question? A few years ago he was quite possibly the best player in the Western Conference. He'll get back to his old form, or close to it. Let's sign him and let's definitely dump Lang. I'd sign Lang over 2 years at 2 million bucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted May 19, 2007 The Wings have definetly got to keep Bertuzzi. Once fully fit and fully recovered from his injury , I think he's going to be awsome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted May 20, 2007 I would love to have him back next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asmith18 3 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 My dad had a similar back surgery to his and its pretty painful and takes a while to recover. My dad gives him props to play. He's a big guy and if he wants to finish in Detroit let him. If he gets to 100%, we'll be thankful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
