Stu in Israel 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Unless I'm mistaken the Anaheim Ducks will be the Wings' opponent in the Second Round, and if so, they will have to face an even better goalie than Kiprusoff, meaning: Jean-Sebastien Giguere (look at his playoff figures)! Yes, "the Dominator" has the name, and the aura, and the mystique, but look at the number of shots that Kiprusoff faced and the number that Hasek faced, then at the number of goals scored; the offense and the defense are what's carried this team along so far. I do not mean to demean Hasek's worth as a goalie, I merely mean to look at the statistics, "Just the facts ma'am," as Sgt. Joe Friday (Jack Webb) used to say in the TV series "Dragnet." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukRules 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 they re-seed noob. we get dallas if they win and SJ if vancouver wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anewnoise 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Teams are reseeded after each individual round. The Wings will face either Dallas or San Jose for Round 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The Wings will play either Dallas or San Jose in the second round. You must be confusing the playoff stats a bit here. And why do you have no faith in Hasek? I know this is LGW, brewing pot of negativity, but when he is on his game he can be an excellent goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedLightGoesOn 81 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Unless I'm mistaken the Anaheim Ducks will be the Wings' opponent in the Second Round, and if so, they will have to face an even better goalie than Kiprusoff, meaning: Jean-Sebastien Giguere (look at his playoff figures)! Great post... except Wings won't play the Ducks in the second round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aki 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 No, there's no way we're going to play Anaheim in the 2nd round. The top-seed always plays against the lowest seed. So in this case, depending on the outcome of the Canucks-Stars game tomorrow, we play either the Stars or the Sharks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 hehe, and you've been a fan how long? Just teasing. Anyway, Dom made 3 spectacular saves tonight that would have forced a game 7. i think he's playing fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Even if we do verse Anaheim down the road, we can take Giguere. The last time he beat us we were a very different team, who had a horrible habit of shooting pucks into the chest. So Samuelson will have a hard time. Thats about it. Edited April 23, 2007 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Kiprusoff is a lot better then J.S. Giguere. At least in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukRules 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 on the topic of a better goalie, Turco is looking pretty dang good. I haven't seen much of Nabakov or Toskala. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Unless I'm mistaken the Anaheim Ducks will be the Wings' opponent in the Second Round, and if so, they will have to face an even better goalie than Kiprusoff, meaning: Jean-Sebastien Giguere (look at his playoff figures)! Yes, "the Dominator" has the name, and the aura, and the mystique, but look at the number of shots that Kiprusoff faced and the number that Hasek faced, then at the number of goals scored; the offense and the defense are what's carried this team along so far. I do not mean to demean Hasek's worth as a goalie, I merely mean to look at the statistics, "Just the facts ma'am," as Sgt. Joe Friday (Jack Webb) used to say in the TV series "Dragnet." The fact that we do not play Anaheim in the next round aside, this comment is the epitome of worthless. We have just won a series in which Hasek played spectacularly, and you immediately find the need to put him down in relation to other goalies in the western conference. This seems to be the only point of your post. I do not understand why you made it. That Hasek did not face as many scoring chances as did Kiprusoff does not make Dom any less valuable. He let in perhaps two bad goals this series, which is as many as did Kiprusoff. The rest were largely as a result of defensive gaffes on the power play--which Calgary's D did not commit--and Hasek certainly made his share of vital saves at vital times. The guy let in 10 goals in six games; seriously, why did you even say this? Are you already attempting to rationalize to yourself why we'll lose in the second round, so as to avoid disappointment? If so, join the crowd.. I'm sure that they'll be gathering after they get over the euphoria of tonight's win. Look for the club meeting on the boards the night before game 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Kiprusoff is a lot better then J.S. Giguere. At least in my opinion. Agreed. Kipper>Giguere By a mile. Edited April 23, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingFanInStarLand 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 I've watched Turco for years, and yes he is having a nice playoffs... I've watched Captain Inflate-o-Pads (Giguere) at his best too. There are few certain things in an uncertain world...but here's one....The Wings will not face a goalie equal to Mikka Kiprusoff for the rest of the playoffs. Bank on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack&Lube 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The Flames also didn't have Pronger and Nieds Special in front of Kipper. Poor guy got shellshocked by a much better Detroit team. Honestly, I think the best goaltender Detroit could possibly face is either Turco or actually Luongo. But Anaheim definetely has the better defense which will inflate Giguere's abilities. Luongo has proven in situations to be > Kipper, even this Flames fan will admit that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lollipop 8 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Hoping for Dallas in the 2nd round, even if Turco has been amazing...though, if we played San Jose, I could drive down and catch a game... Hmm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinD 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 to be fair, Stu In Isreal is not a "noob" nor has he been an idiot poster. look back at his posts. smart guy with smart things to say. not pointing fingers, just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingFanInStarLand 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The Flames also didn't have Pronger and Nieds Special in front of Kipper. Poor guy got shellshocked by a much better Detroit team. Honestly, I think the best goaltender Detroit could possibly face is either Turco or actually Luongo. But Anaheim definetely has the better defense which will inflate Giguere's abilities. Luongo has proven in situations to be > Kipper, even this Flames fan will admit that. You can definitely make a strong case for Luongo being better than Kipper....but Turco?? I obviously dont love the Flames but...no way is Turco better than Kiprusoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Unless I'm mistaken the Anaheim Ducks will be the Wings' opponent in the Second Round, and if so, they will have to face an even better goalie than Kiprusoff, meaning: Jean-Sebastien Giguere (look at his playoff figures)! Yes, "the Dominator" has the name, and the aura, and the mystique, but look at the number of shots that Kiprusoff faced and the number that Hasek faced, then at the number of goals scored; the offense and the defense are what's carried this team along so far. I do not mean to demean Hasek's worth as a goalie, I merely mean to look at the statistics, "Just the facts ma'am," as Sgt. Joe Friday (Jack Webb) used to say in the TV series "Dragnet." If Giguere finds a way to stop nearly 250 shots, then he'll have my respect. Kipper is the only one in the league not named Brodeur that could've kept the Flames in the series. Each and every one of those games could've been 5-1 except for Kipper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinD 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 You can definitely make a strong case for Luongo being better than Kipper....but Turco?? I obviously dont love the Flames but...no way is Turco better than Kiprusoff. but right now, turco is hot. really hot. i think he has a couple of shut-outs. dom doesn't have that right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack&Lube 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 You can definitely make a strong case for Luongo being better than Kipper....but Turco?? I obviously dont love the Flames but...no way is Turco better than Kiprusoff. I meant that Detroit HAS LEFT to possibly face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinD 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Each and every one of those games could've been 5-1 except for Kipper. correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Turco will collapse in round 2 as usual. Well... as usual would have been round 1, but since he managed to pull through with some decent goaltending, it will be round 2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Any direction we look, the Wings wil have to face a tough, All-Star caliber goalie. ....but so will who ever faces us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 but right now, turco is hot. really hot. i think he has a couple of shut-outs. dom doesn't have that right? He has 3 shutouts, all his wins have been shutouts. However, I think we will have an easier time with him than with Kipper. Turco has been playing against a pathetic offense that is owned by the Vancouver Canucks. Both of these teams have the worst offense going into the playoffs in the West, and only the Devils score fewer goals. So I say Go Stars! and bring on Turco. We will light him up. He has a bad record against us and he hasn't seen nearly as many shots as Kipper or a respectable offense. Kipper > Turco, stats are misleading in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OkThatSmells 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Unless I'm mistaken the Anaheim Ducks will be the Wings' opponent in the Second Round, and if so, they will have to face an even better goalie than Kiprusoff, meaning: Jean-Sebastien Giguere (look at his playoff figures)! Yes, "the Dominator" has the name, and the aura, and the mystique, but look at the number of shots that Kiprusoff faced and the number that Hasek faced, then at the number of goals scored; the offense and the defense are what's carried this team along so far. I do not mean to demean Hasek's worth as a goalie, I merely mean to look at the statistics, "Just the facts ma'am," as Sgt. Joe Friday (Jack Webb) used to say in the TV series "Dragnet." Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
