Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Here's a puzzler for one and all. The near miss we had last night in OT when local boy David Moss had the net at his mercy. He took the shot which hit Dom's helmet and went skyward. Now if the shot had gone off Dom's helmet and into the net would the referee been right to wave the goal off? Would have been an interesting call to say the least, infront of a home crowd, the home team needing to win to stay alive. I'm lead to believe that if a shot hits the netminders helmet then play is whislted down, and we have a faceoff! Anyone want to clarify this one up ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pope04 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Now if the shot had gone off Dom's helmet and into the net would the referee been right to wave the goal off? The goal would've counted. David Moss is going to be a stud in a year or so. Edited April 23, 2007 by pope04 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Wings ran into a situation like this earlier this year against Phoenix, actually. But for starters, play isn't over if the goalie takes it in the mask. So if Moss buries it, good goal. Play is only blown dead if the mask comes off. But there's an exception, and that's if the puck is still in an immediate scoring position. That's why in Phoenix when Homer cranked one off of Telqvist's mask and it fell off, and Homer stuffed the rebound, the play wasn't whistled. Edited April 23, 2007 by Heroes of Hockeytown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UWO_Winger 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Here's a puzzler for one and all. The near miss we had last night in OT when local boy David Moss had the net at his mercy. He took the shot which hit Dom's helmet and went skyward. Now if the shot had gone off Dom's helmet and into the net would the referee been right to wave the goal off? Would have been an interesting call to say the least, infront of a home crowd, the home team needing to win to stay alive. I'm lead to believe that if a shot hits the netminders helmet then play is whislted down, and we have a faceoff! Anyone want to clarify this one up ? Not true.. the ref has discretion over blowing the whistle if he believes the goalie has been stunned (see Kipper getting shot in the face by Zet). The goal would absolutely have counted wtih no complaints from the Wings. Edited April 23, 2007 by UWO_Winger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Unless theres a penalty on the play or it was put in illegally (high stick, kicking/gloving motion) the shot would be a goal. If the refs blew the whistle before he shot the puck in, it would be no goal as the play would already be dead, but the refs can only whistle a play down if they lose sight of the puck (Hasek has it covered), or someone is injured. Edited April 23, 2007 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsWingsWings 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 That goal would have counted and we would all not be talking about a Game 7 instead of a Game 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Here's a puzzler for one and all. The near miss we had last night in OT when local boy David Moss had the net at his mercy. He took the shot which hit Dom's helmet and went skyward. Now if the shot had gone off Dom's helmet and into the net would the referee been right to wave the goal off? Would have been an interesting call to say the least, infront of a home crowd, the home team needing to win to stay alive. I'm lead to believe that if a shot hits the netminders helmet then play is whislted down, and we have a faceoff! Anyone want to clarify this one up ? It would've counted without a doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Beating a dead horse I see. The goal would have counted... as it should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coyote0106 2 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Play is only blown dead if the mask comes off. But there's an exception, and that's if the puck is still in an immediate scoring position. That's why in Phoenix when Homer cranked one off of Telqvist's mask and it fell off, and Homer stuffed the rebound, the play wasn't whistled. Which still haunts me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burninator 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The rule of blowing the play dead if the puck hits the goalie in the mask is a more predominate European hockey rule if I recall correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The rule of blowing the play dead if the puck hits the goalie in the mask is a more predominate European hockey rule if I recall correctly. Yup. That's what they did in the Olympics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pope04 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 ...... when Homer cranked one off of Telqvist's mask and it fell off, and Homer stuffed the rebound, the play wasn't whistled. Here's a vintage example: Once Al MacInnis cranked one from center that hit Mike Liut in the face and bounced into the net. Liut broke his nose, and the goal counted. This is, oh, maybe mid-eighties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 I'm just glad he missed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 The rule of blowing the play dead if the puck hits the goalie in the mask is a more predominate European hockey rule if I recall correctly. didnt kipper take one to the mask and play was blown dead immediately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeta Power 40 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 didnt kipper take one to the mask and play was blown dead immediately? yup it did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetter is Better 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 it only wouldnt count if Doms helmet was knock off on the play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 didnt kipper take one to the mask and play was blown dead immediately? Mainly because Kipper was knocked woozy for a couple seconds. They'll stop the play for anyone, goalie or not, if it looks like they're lying on the ice with some kind of head injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites