ttbrunke 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I thought it would be interesting to see who everyone thought they wanted to see play better or Setp-Up in the series against the ducks. These are guys that you think can make a difference (not the this guy has sucked list). Also guys that are already playing well need not to step up until they show that they have cooled off. Todd Bertuzzi: I see some signs of better play as of late, He may be the only guy big enough to get in front of the net against pronger and stay there. Kris Draper: I think the 3rd and 4th lines will need to be good offensively as well as defensively Kirk Maltby: Same as Draper Robert Lang: We will need some offense on that second line, even if Lang isn't going to go in the corners or hit someone he should put the puck in the net more. Chris Chelios: He is going to get 20mins a night, I'm sure he is in good enough shape and I think he will take advantage. Let me know what you think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stactum 4 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I think first of all our first line Dats/Zet/Holm should step up and score some goals on the road! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) In all truth, I'm not as concerned with the Ducks offense. I feel the Sharks posed a much greater threat, but their defense is better than the Sharks and Flames combined. That being said, its clear that they'll use their shutdown line against Z-Dats-Homer, and the Wings will use their shutdown line against Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne. With these two lines going up against eachother, it eliminates the following lines for the Wings: Z-Dats-Homer (who'll still chip in a goal here and there) Cleary-Drapes-Malts That leaves Bertuzzi, Filppula, Calder, Lang, Samuelsson and Franzen. These are the guys, IMO that will make or break this series. You can bank on Neids or Pronger being on the ice during all of the Z-Dats-Homer shifts, which will pit the other against one of these two remaining lines. It's during the next shift that the Wings will need to attack. Now granted, the Ducks could play Huskins-DiPenta when the Wings have their shutdown line out against the the Ducks top line, but my guess is that Carlyle will want to play Pronger with that line (because of his shot) to generate offense. If that happens, whichever of those two remaining lines are on the ice for the Huskins-DiPenta shift will need to be the difference makers in the very short amount of PT those two get (FYI: Between Neids and Pronger they play around 53-54 minutes per game). Both of these teams will play excellent D, and have outstanding goaltending. I'd be willing to bet we can look forward to a lot of 3-4 goal maximum games throughout the series. If the Wings are to move on, those aforementioned lines I spoke of, will need to generate a fair amount of offense. Edit: Spelling Edited May 12, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Will the real Todd Bertuzzi please stup up. His play I believe will be the difference maker in this series. Our second line has to be better than theirs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeeSpot82 10 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 That leaves Bertuzzi, Filppula, Calder, Lang, Samuelsson and Franzen. These are the guys, IMO that will make or break this series. You can bank on Neids or Pronger being on the ice during all of the the Z-Dats-Homer shifts, which will pit the other against one of these two remaining lines. That's where the Wings will need to attack. Now granted, the Ducks could play Huskins-DiPenta when the Wings have their shutdown line out against the the Ducks top line, but my guess is that Carlyle will want to play Pronger with that line (because of his shot) to generate offense. If that happens, whichever of those two remaining lines are on the ice for the Huskins-DiPenta shift will need to be the difference makers. Phenomenal analysis. Something I like that I've seen this post-season is during the final 10-20 seconds of a power play or penalty kill when Filppula and company are on the ice. They certainly generate some energy and do a great job either keeping the puck deep or pushing the forecheck to enable a better matchup after the next whistle. I think that if the Ducks PP is exhausted and can't put either Niedermayer or Pronger on the ice for some reason, even if just for a minute, it might be a great time to strike with our forgotten guys like Flip and Franzen. I don't anticipate a heavy scoring affair, because both teams are particularly strong on the back end, so it might be the dirty goals that are the difference. I'm sure Anaheim isn't afraid to crash Hasek, and our power play will need to chip in some goals. All of a sudden, in games 5 and 6 of the San Jose series, Samuelsson found his aim - and hopefully it'll stick around because without Schneider, guess who we're going to see on the point every single power play? I'd really like to see Bertuzzi park his ass in Giguere's face, a la Holmstrom, either on PP Unit #2 or just during regular shifts. The strategy proves effective - even if Homer doesn't HIMSELF score - and if we have the opportunity to double our annoyance efforts at the top of the paint, it can't hurt in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Bertuzzi and Lang. This guys need to play huge and be huge. They're both really big guys, and if you add Franzen to that unit, its just a big mans line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Phenomenal analysis. Something I like that I've seen this post-season is during the final 10-20 seconds of a power play or penalty kill when Filppula and company are on the ice. They certainly generate some energy and do a great job either keeping the puck deep or pushing the forecheck to enable a better matchup after the next whistle. I think that if the Ducks PP is exhausted and can't put either Niedermayer or Pronger on the ice for some reason, even if just for a minute, it might be a great time to strike with our forgotten guys like Flip and Franzen. I don't anticipate a heavy scoring affair, because both teams are particularly strong on the back end, so it might be the dirty goals that are the difference. I'm sure Anaheim isn't afraid to crash Hasek, and our power play will need to chip in some goals. All of a sudden, in games 5 and 6 of the San Jose series, Samuelsson found his aim - and hopefully it'll stick around because without Schneider, guess who we're going to see on the point every single power play? I'd really like to see Bertuzzi park his ass in Giguere's face, a la Holmstrom, either on PP Unit #2 or just during regular shifts. The strategy proves effective - even if Homer doesn't HIMSELF score - and if we have the opportunity to double our annoyance efforts at the top of the paint, it can't hurt in any way. Wow, that IS good analysis NFM.. Are you an CBC analyst in disguise! I have to disagree with the Bertuzzi in front of the net issue though, he doesn't seem to have that type of skill to his game. Drive the net yes, park there.. not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Domink Hasek. And it isn't really stepping up, so much as carrying over his game 6 preformance, and not playing like he did the first 4 games. Let's be honest here, the Ducks are a great skating team. Can we skate with them? No doubt, I think Detroit is the most underraated team left in the playoffs. No one thought we could hang with San Jose, they were too big and too fast. I think if Dom wouldn't have played so poorly in the first 10 minutes of those games, the Wings win it in 5. Dom just needs to be Dom and play like he can. We can't afford to have him giving the puck away, the Ducks are too good. Wings in 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 If Bertuzzi can play his A game, we will not have a problem in this series. Also, you can say Sammy has played well last 2 games, but can he be consistent? If he can, that'd be great. It's great to have Lebda back though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) Zetterberg, if he has a great series detroit moves on, no question. Big Bert, a couple goals would be nice Edited May 11, 2007 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Bert and Lang, if you have any extra gear (and I know you have) it would be a good time to shift it now also Dom has to be rock solid and may need to really standing on his head for few games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Wow, that IS good analysis NFM.. Are you an CBC analyst in disguise! I have to disagree with the Bertuzzi in front of the net issue though, he doesn't seem to have that type of skill to his game. Drive the net yes, park there.. not so much. Nah, I just watch a ton of hockey, and pay attention to all the details I can. Growing up playing the game didn't hurt my knowledge either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeeSpot82 10 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I have to disagree with the Bertuzzi in front of the net issue though, he doesn't seem to have that type of skill to his game. Drive the net yes, park there.. not so much. I don't think Bertuzzi has the same skill set as Homer does - as far as tiping and such, but he's a monster body that can block vision just as well... I meant Bertuzzi needs a Holmstrom roll in the same way that he makes a better door than a window, not a deflection machine. If you have trouble moving Homer, you should need a bulldozer to move Bertuzzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 I think this might be the series, ecspecially with Pronger, and Neids, that we might have to split up Z&D. However, ALL of the Ducks defenseman have to be good because Just Neidermeier or just Pronger cannot handle Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted May 12, 2007 The hole defensive core needs to step up. Bertuzzi and Lang need to contribute. Datsyuk line needs to keep playing like they are. And Hasek has to be huge in net and make the key saves as he has been! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 Hasek's already been playing great so I'm going to say Bertuzzi and Chelios. Bertuzzi needs to get under Pronger's skin. He needs to nail Pronger every time there is a loose puck in the Ducks' end and make him pay for all the ice time he gets. Bertuzzi also needs to start scoring because secondary scoring is going to be a key in this series. The Ducks shut down line will probably limit the first line's chances. Chelios needs to play as well as he has been with Schneider's absence. He can't let his age show and he needs to bring back his offensive game for the powerplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 I agree with everyone who said Bertuzzi. I think he really picked his game up during games 5 and 6 against the Sharks. He just needs to keep it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest REDWINGS4LYFE Report post Posted May 12, 2007 Good Ol'd TB will pick up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) I think this might be the series, ecspecially with Pronger, and Neids, that we might have to split up Z&D. However, ALL of the Ducks defenseman have to be good because Just Neidermeier or just Pronger cannot handle Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Niedermayer typically plays with Beauchemin so i see that as the defensive pairing that will deal with the first line for the most part. The ducks pair Pronger with O'donnell most of the time so the second line with Bert will get a healthy dose of them IMO. Edited May 12, 2007 by ZAMBONI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) If I had to pick one guy, I'd say Bertuzzi. It sounds cliche at this point, but he's this series' X factor; he has the potential to disrupt all of the Ducks' advantages. He doesn't even have to score all that much -- if he can just drive Pronger bats*** crazy, he will have earned his pay. Edited May 12, 2007 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copenhagen848 58 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 I have a good feeling about Bert in this series. If he gets pumped up and really starts crashing the net like the Bert of old, he will be a major factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canucks1988 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 hopefully bertuzzi shows up. if he plays up to his potential watch out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) Bertuzzi. If I had to pick one guy, I'd say Bertuzzi. It sounds cliche at this point, but he's this series' X factor; he has the potential to disrupt all of the Ducks' advantages. If we could see a few glimpses of that old Bertuzzi - the guy who runs THROUGH players and tosses them around like little ragdolls - this series would be a short one. *prays* Edited May 12, 2007 by motorcitykid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites