Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 It's pretty clear Lang will probably leave being a UFA this season. Now, we all know of the "Big 3" avalible in UFA market when it comes to possible centers: Chris Drury, Daniel Briere, and Scott Gomez. But yet, there is one name that is almost as good as these three that is always left out: Mike Comrie For the right price, I think this guy would be a huge upgrade on the second line. I know the Wings have a lot of centers, but Comrie is a good playmaker, and also has the ability to put up decent points. He scored 30 goals last season on a crappy Phoenix Coyotes team, and has also scored 33 goals way back in 2001-2002 with Edmonton. For the right price, which he'll probably command about a little less then what Lang makes now, I think he'd be a great fit here. His asking price would be around 2.5 million, and the Wings should have enough cap room to get him. I'd like to know your take on Comrie. I think he's a great player, and would be a perfect fit for the second line. Obviously the cost factor is also important, and he'd come a lot cheaper then the previous three that are always talked about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 No centers needed pleaze. Datsyuk Zetterberg Draper Filpulla Cleary Hudler are all naural centers. 2 scoring wingers please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted May 15, 2007 This topic comes up every day it seems. I agree with zombo. No centers should be signed. Filppula has proven that he can play, and should be given the second line center role next year. I'd rather the Wings spend some money on some wingers, and take care of the goalie situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 No centers needed pleaze. Datsyuk Zetterberg Draper Filpulla Cleary Hudler are all naural centers. 2 scoring wingers please. The thing is, Datsyuk and Zetterberg will never (and shouldn't) be broken up. Draper is in no way a second line center, Filppula is still young, Cleary needs a true set up man to be consistantly productive, which we really don't have on the second line, and I really don't have that much confidence in Hudler. This is why I think Comrie would be a good choice for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 The thing is, Datsyuk and Zetterberg will never (and shouldn't) be broken up. Draper is in no way a second line center, Filppula is still young, Cleary needs a true set up man to be consistantly productive, which we really don't have on the second line, and I really don't have that much confidence in Hudler. This is why I think Comrie would be a good choice for the Wings. Everyone and their dog has already talked about how Zetts is a natural centre and Babcock likes him there more than the wing. The only reason Dats and Zetts are on the same line (where they both share time at C and LW) is because it's been effective and we have Lang. Next season expect Zetts to be a full time centre with an occassional game at LW or centering Datsyuk. Filpulla will be our #3 centre for most of the year - where he belongs. Filp is going to be a great player but even Dats was on the 3rd and 4th lines the first couple of years. We should concentrate on picking up a physical scoring winger (or two), not another centre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DwightSchrute 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 The thing is, Datsyuk and Zetterberg will never (and shouldn't) be broken up. Draper is in no way a second line center, Filppula is still young, Cleary needs a true set up man to be consistantly productive, which we really don't have on the second line, and I really don't have that much confidence in Hudler. This is why I think Comrie would be a good choice for the Wings. Plus he played at Michigan so he might want to come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 We should also remember that Comrie's had some dressing room issues in the past and his asking price might hover around $2.5M. For that price I'd rather resign Calder or use it towards resigning Bert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfuturemvp 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 no comrie, we dont need another small player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 Everyone and their dog has already talked about how Zetts is a natural centre and Babcock likes him there more than the wing. The only reason Dats and Zetts are on the same line (where they both share time at C and LW) is because it's been effective and we have Lang. Next season expect Zetts to be a full time centre with an occassional game at LW or centering Datsyuk. Filpulla will be our #3 centre for most of the year - where he belongs. Filp is going to be a great player but even Dats was on the 3rd and 4th lines the first couple of years. We should concentrate on picking up a physical scoring winger (or two), not another centre. If that happens, then yeah, maybe we should focus on other things. But it still remains to be seen whether Datsyuk and Zetterberg will be broken up full time. We should also remember that Comrie's had some dressing room issues in the past and his asking price might hover around $2.5M. For that price I'd rather resign Calder or use it towards resigning Bert. His problems in Edmonton were that he hates Craig MacTavish. He's not alone, as pretty much everyone in Edmonton hates him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 Sign Bert. Sign Fedotenko or Blake or someone. Blake - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Homer - Zetterberg - Grigorenko Franzen - Filpulla - Samuelson Maltby - Draper - Cleary Kopecky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfuturemvp 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 smyth 5 datsyuk 6.7 grigorenko (850k) ( yes i know hes a rookie but hes played with dats before and im hoping theyll play well together, about time one of our rookies gets good playing minutes, plus it balances out the lineup) samuelsson 1.2 zetterberg 2.65 holmstrom 2.250 bertuzzi 2.5 filppula 710k franzen 940k maltby 665k draper 2.1 cleary 660k kopecky 450k lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5 kronwall 3 lilja 1 lebda 650k chelios 850k quincey 510k hasek 1 ozzie 850k 45.485 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted May 15, 2007 I don't understand why everyone wants to hold back Filppula so much. He's 23 now. You can't continue to give him five mintues a game. He showed that he's a great player that can handle any role when Zetterberg went down, and I think Babcock agrees, as he'd use him late in close games, and gave him first line duty. How much longer do you want to hold the guy back? It makes no sense. Why not put him where he deserves to be and use the money on something we actually need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 smyth 5 No way Smyth will only ask for 5 million. He'll command the league max. This is why I'm not in favor of signing Smyth. We already have a league max amount in Datsyuk. And Holmstrom does the exact same thing Smyth does, if not better. I see no reason to sign Smyth. Since we want to discuss wingers now, here are two that would bring what the Wings need: Scott Walker and Martin Gelinas. Obviously Gelinas doesn't provide a whole lot of offense, but he does bring the ever so popular grit that the Wings lack. Walker would be the best choice, because he can score as well as hit/fight, but it seems he might re-sign with Carolina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRum #1 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I get frustrated when Wings fans say Datsyuk and Zetterberg should NEVER be broken up. These two guys are, IMO, Top 10 centers in this league. They arent the Sedin twins, they dont need each other. Yes, they are awesome together...but so were Forsberg and Sakic when Hartley used to load up his 1st line. Get some quality winger depth so they can center their own lines and slide Flip to the #3 center. Along with Draper, that is very impressive center depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Pavs got a winger coming in next year in the shape of Grigs. I think if we re-sign Bert, put him with them, that could be a very explosive 2nd line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozac 10 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I get frustrated when Wings fans say Datsyuk and Zetterberg should NEVER be broken up. These two guys are, IMO, Top 10 centers in this league. They arent the Sedin twins, they dont need each other. Yes, they are awesome together...but so were Forsberg and Sakic when Hartley used to load up his 1st line. Get some quality winger depth so they can center their own lines and slide Flip to the #3 center. Along with Draper, that is very impressive center depth. I agree, obviously they're awesome together, but they don't need each other as much as we think they do. Datsyuk did just fine when Zetterberg was hurt at the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted May 16, 2007 comrie's a bum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 No way Smyth will only ask for 5 million. He'll command the league max. Um...No? Only if he goes to a non-contender and I doubt he will... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 As long as the second line center is not named Robert Lang or have any resemblence of him, then I will be perfectly happy. I have no problem with Val Filppula getting more minutes next season. In fact, he deserves them already in the playoffs. The kid has proven he can play in any situation, and Babcock clearly is a big fan of Filppula, so give him a chance. Mike Comrie is a solid hockey player, but like other posts have mentioned, the Red Wings would be better off spending the money for other areas of concern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Signing Comrie would be a joke. He hasn't had a solid season since he scored 33. He isn't effective, and is a sore in the locker room. As for splitting up Hank and Pav, Babs has already hinted that he wants to, but with a lack of production from anyone else during the regular season, he really didn't have much choice, especially since that line was as hot as it was. I am a big fan of trying to sign Smyth. Remember he hasn't won a Cup, he had a taste of it last year, and he has stated that it's something he wants very badly. I wouldn't surprised to see him stay on the island. After what the Islanders gave up for him, look for them to make a huge push to keep him. I would be surprised to see a 7-10 year deal offered. One last thing, someone mentioned something about Smyth getting league max. I didn't think there was a true league max. I remember hearing something like no one player can earn more than 20% of his teams cap spending, e.g. a team spends $30 on the team, no single player could make more than $6 per. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfuturemvp 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 No way Smyth will only ask for 5 million. He'll command the league max. This is why I'm not in favor of signing Smyth. We already have a league max amount in Datsyuk. And Holmstrom does the exact same thing Smyth does, if not better. I see no reason to sign Smyth. Since we want to discuss wingers now, here are two that would bring what the Wings need: Scott Walker and Martin Gelinas. Obviously Gelinas doesn't provide a whole lot of offense, but he does bring the ever so popular grit that the Wings lack. Walker would be the best choice, because he can score as well as hit/fight, but it seems he might re-sign with Carolina. command for max ?? lol .....he wont get anywhere near 8 million, the most he will get is 5.5 on a longterm deal, hes already 32 i believe ........and i wrote down 5 cause i do believe if hes got a chance to sign with a legitimate cup contender he would take a little less , im sure he'd have a nice life for say a 4 yr 20mill deal ......plus it would be his way of giving it to edm for trading him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Comrie will get more than 2.5M. Closer to 3.5M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 His problems in Edmonton were that he hates Craig MacTavish. He's not alone, as pretty much everyone in Edmonton hates him. I'm not anywhere near Edmonton and even I hate him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I'm going to let Kenny Holland make this decision... so you guys can duke it out but it all means nothing in the end, period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Um...No? Only if he goes to a non-contender and I doubt he will... Maybe league max was a bit to high, but 5 is still low. I see him going for at least 6 million, even if it is a Cup contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
