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Any thoughts on potential lines for next year? Here's what I see:

Franzen/Zetterburg/Samuellson

Datzyuk/Fillpula/Holmstrom

Maltby/Draper/Kopecky

Bertuzzi/Hudler/Cleary

Lidstrom/Kronwall

Schneider/Markov

Lilja/Lebda/Chelios

Dom

Ozzie

Howard

This assumes of course that they keep Dom and resign the UFA's.

This would probably leave them quite a bit under the cap but with that

lineup I'm not sure where you would add or subtract. Kopecky would

be the odd man out I guess if they signed Drury,Smith or Gomez.

I personally don't trust Dom in the net at age 43 and would prefer them to

trade someone like Lilja for a goalie. Perhaps Theodore who I know Colorado

would love to get rid of and would probably play much better on a team

with this much talent.

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Grigorenko is coming over too...I hope he's on the big club instead of stuck in GR

I think he has a clause that allows him to return to Russia if he plays X amount of games in the A.

My lines (if all the signings I like come to fruition):

Calder-Zetterberg-Sammuelson

Homer-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi

Franzen-Filpulla-Hudler

Cleary-Draper-Maltby

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Lebda-Markov

Quincy-Chelios

xtras - Kopecky, Grigs, Meech, Ericsson

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Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Smyth-Lang-Bertuzzi

Cleary-Franzen-Calder

Maltby-Draper-McCarty

Lidstrom-Sarich

Schnieder-Chelios

Lebda-Kronwall

Dom

Ozzie

Meh , I can dream

Where's Filppula?

He deserves to be in the top two lines next season IMO.

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Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71

Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4

Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941

Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2

Hudler .5

Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1

Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85

Schneider 3 - Lebda .65

Kindl .8

Hasek 1.2

Osgood .75

42.726

You can always trade for a physical defensemen at the deadline. it would save cap if we waited

Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71

Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4

Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941

Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2

Hudler .5

Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1

Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85

Schneider 3 - Lebda .65

Kindl .8

Hasek 1.2

Osgood .75

42.726

You can always trade for a physical defensemen at the deadline. it would save cap if we waited

OR, not likely, but my dream

Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71

Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4

Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941

Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2

Hudler .5

Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1

Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85

Kindl .8- Lebda .65

Quincey .8

Giguere 5.5

Osgood .75

44.826

OR, not likely, but my dream

Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71

Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4

Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941

Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2

Hudler .5

Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1

Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85

Kindl .8- Lebda .65

Quincey .8

Giguere 5.5

Osgood .75

44.826

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Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

Franzen - Filpulla - FA?

Cleary - Draper - Maltby

Kopecky - Hudler - Sammuelson

or Grigs

Lidstrom - Markov

Kronwall - Schneider

Chelios - Lilja

Howard

Ozzie

FA- with this line-up we may have enough to sign one of the big names (Smyth, Briere or Drury, etc)

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Zetterberg - Dacjuk - Holmstrom

Calder - Lang - Bertuzzi

Maltby - Draper - Cleary

Franzen - Filppula - Samuelsson

+Grigorenko in GR, Hudler, Kopecky

Lidstrom - Markov

Kronvall - Chelios

Lebda - Lilja

+Quincey and Kindl in GR

Aebischer

Osgood

..and dream on :P

Edited by Bartek

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It seems that people have Zetterberg playing on the wing on Datsyuk's line but also playing center on a different line...

I'm just curious, but do you think the wings are better if Dats and Z are on the same line or are on different lines?

I'd like to see

Filipula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Grigorenko-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi

Cleary-Draper-Franzen

Maltby-Kopecky-Samuelsson

Lidstrom-Kronwall

Lebda-Schneider

Lilja-Chelios

Hasek

Osgood

if we get rid of Lang, Calder, and Markov and re-sign Hasek, Bertuzzi, Chelios, and Schneider for the right price...then I like our chances next year

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Zetterberg/Datsuyk/Homer

Sammy/Filp/Bert

Franzen/Cleary/Griorenko

Maltby/Draper/Kopecky

Lidstrom/Sarich

Kronwall/Cheli

Lilja/quincey

Kindl

Ozzie/Howard/Liv/Possibly Dom may be back but never know with him..

I don't think Markov and Schnides will be back. same for lang and Calder. I believe Hudler is just trade bait at this point.

I guess yopu can say this is my dream line up for next year. Proboaly won't happen but theres no reason why it cant. Its actually very realistic if you think about it...

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Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

Kozlov - Drury - Grigorenko

Maltby - Draper - Cleary

Franzen - Filppula - Samuelsson

Kopecky

Lidstrom - Markov

Kronwall - Chelios

Lebda - Stuart or Sarich

Quincey

Kindl

Hasek

Osgood

I can dream can't I?

and just to add something, I doubt that Grigorenko is going to play in GR, he would be back in Russia in 3 weeks time IIRC, he's going to be at least the 13th forward next year

Edited by ahall89nhl

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my unrealistic line up lol is ........

zetterberg 2.65 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.25

bertuzzi 2.75 handzus 2.5 hartnell 3.25

franzen 940k filppula 710k grigorenko 850k

cleary 660 draper 2.1 maltby 865k

kopecky 450k

lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5

kronwall 3 kindl 850k

lebda 650k chelios 850k

quincey 510k

hasek 1.2

ozzie 850k

44.925

Edited by zetterbergfuturemvp

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what do you guys think about this one........

bertuzzi 3 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.250

hudler 1.25 zetterberg 2.65 hartnell 3.25 ( hudler can get 25+ in the 2nd line,+hartnell adds a physical dimension)

franzen 940 k filppula 710 k grigorenko 850 k

cleary 660 k draper 2.1 maltby 888k

kopecky 450k samuelson 1.2 ( we'll most likely have to find a team to take sammy or we keep him incase grigorenko tanks)

i really love those 4 lines

lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5

kronwall 3 babchuck 900k

lebda 650k chelios 900k

quincey 510 k lilja 1

adding sarich and babchuk adds a physical aspect in the back end we been missing and we still keep our puck moving offensive defensemen abilities in tact with lidstrom kronwall and lebda

hasek 1.2( + incentives)( assuming hes coming back of course)

ozzie 850k

total = 46.047

sign bertuzzi for 1 or 2 yrs at 3 mill per

sign hartnell 3 yrs for 9.75

sign hudler 3 yrs for 3.75

sign sarich 4 yrs for 10 million

trade meech and maybe a 4th to a team in a 3 way deal for babchuck( meech is nhl ready , just not on our team)

our cap is only 46 so we got cap space to make moves at the deadline and we can free up more space by

a) trading lilja ( my option)

b) sending quincey down and keeping lilja

c) trading samuelson and lilja for picks ( even better)

samuelsson wont likely get traded but its an option ........i think keeping maltby takes up a spot

any thoughts ?

Edited by zetterbergfuturemvp

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what do you guys think about this one........

bertuzzi 3 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.250

hudler 1.25 zetterberg 2.65 hartnell 3.25 ( hudler can get 25+ in the 2nd line,+hartnell adds a physical dimension)

franzen 940 k filppula 710 k grigorenko 850 k

cleary 660 k draper 2.1 maltby 888k

kopecky 450k samuelson 1.2 ( we'll most likely have to find a team to take sammy or we keep him incase grigorenko tanks)

i really love those 4 lines

lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5

kronwall 3 babchuck 900k

lebda 650k chelios 900k

quincey 510 k lilja 1

adding sarich and babchuk adds a physical aspect in the back end we been missing and we still keep our puck moving offensive defensemen abilities in tact with lidstrom kronwall and lebda

hasek 1.2( + incentives)( assuming hes coming back of course)

ozzie 850k

total = 46.047

sign bertuzzi for 1 or 2 yrs at 3 mill per

sign hartnell 3 yrs for 9.75

sign hudler 3 yrs for 3.75

sign sarich 4 yrs for 10 million

trade meech and maybe a 4th to a team in a 3 way deal for babchuck( meech is nhl ready , just not on our team)

our cap is only 46 so we got cap space to make moves at the deadline and we can free up more space by

a) trading lilja ( my option)

b) sending quincey down and keeping lilja

c) trading samuelson and lilja for picks ( even better)

samuelsson wont likely get traded but its an option ........i think keeping maltby takes up a spot

any thoughts ?

Kronwall moves the puck worse then Lilja. Lebda and Chelios move it better

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Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

Bertuzzi - Filppula - Cleary

Franzen - Hudler - Grigorenko

Calder - Draper - Maltby

Samuelsson

Kopecky

Lidstrom - Kronwall

Kindl - Markov

Lebda - Chelios

Quincey

Lilja

Hasek

Osgood

I picked my lines with what will probably be available too the Wings. No prediction's on who will sign via UFA and trade's. Also leaving out Lang and Schnieder because I'm not sure that they can afford them.

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Kronwall moves the puck worse then Lilja. Lebda and Chelios move it better

i understand why some of you might be frustrated cause kronwall gets injured but i cant understand how some you constantly trash him , the guys got loads of talent , hes just been unfortunate but thats due to change , if the wings werent confident in his abilities they wouldnt of given him a 5 yr deal , and yes he got 1 goal i think it was ?? but if most of you watched the games youd know it was just due to badluck , he had loads of chances to score the puck just wouldnt go in for him ......kronwall will be a big player for us in the future

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I'm willing to bet that Grigs will be in Detroit all season, unless he is EXTREMELY bad. If they put him in the A he can go to Russia after like a week, which they probably wont risk.

S1.5: Flip - Hank - Homer

S1.5: Franzen - Dats - FA

G1: Cleary - Drapes - Kopecky

S3: Grigs - Hudler - Sammy

Ex: Malts

D1: Lidstrom - Sarich($3.3)

D2: Kronner - Kindl

D3: Lebs - Lilja/Cheli

Ex: Cheli($1.1)/Lilja

Hasek($1.1)

Osgood

= $38.108

FA =

- Drury($5)

- Selanne($6.5)

- Hartnell($4)

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my unrealistic line up lol is ........

zetterberg 2.65 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.25

bertuzzi 2.75 handzus 2.5 hartnell 3.25

franzen 940k filppula 710k grigorenko 850k

cleary 660 draper 2.1 maltby 865k

kopecky 450k

lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5

kronwall 3 kindl 850k

lebda 650k chelios 850k

quincey 510k

hasek 1.2

ozzie 850k

44.925

:clap::clap::clap:

what do you guys think about this one........

bertuzzi 3 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.250

hudler 1.25 zetterberg 2.65 hartnell 3.25 ( hudler can get 25+ in the 2nd line,+hartnell adds a physical dimension)

franzen 940 k filppula 710 k grigorenko 850 k

cleary 660 k draper 2.1 maltby 888k

kopecky 450k samuelson 1.2 ( we'll most likely have to find a team to take sammy or we keep him incase grigorenko tanks)

i really love those 4 lines

lidstrom 7.6 sarich 2.5

kronwall 3 babchuck 900k

lebda 650k chelios 900k

quincey 510 k lilja 1

adding sarich and babchuk adds a physical aspect in the back end we been missing and we still keep our puck moving offensive defensemen abilities in tact with lidstrom kronwall and lebda

hasek 1.2( + incentives)( assuming hes coming back of course)

ozzie 850k

total = 46.047

sign bertuzzi for 1 or 2 yrs at 3 mill per

sign hartnell 3 yrs for 9.75

sign hudler 3 yrs for 3.75

sign sarich 4 yrs for 10 million

trade meech and maybe a 4th to a team in a 3 way deal for babchuck( meech is nhl ready , just not on our team)

our cap is only 46 so we got cap space to make moves at the deadline and we can free up more space by

a) trading lilja ( my option)

b) sending quincey down and keeping lilja

c) trading samuelson and lilja for picks ( even better)

samuelsson wont likely get traded but its an option ........i think keeping maltby takes up a spot

any thoughts ?

I never lied Lilja but he was great (except one HUGE giveaway...)

I would keep Lilja and trade Lebda... sure Lebda is faster but if you want someone as Babchuk you have to give something... IMO Babchuk is going to be better than Lebda...

Sending Quincey down - YES

Trading Sameulsson - YES

Sign Bert - MUST

Hartnell... I would rather go after Pyatt or Zubrus... I hate Hartnell but would like to have him :)

Sign Sarich - YES

Hudler - we must to trade him, he is not going to play under Bab's so go after BIGGER guys ARTYUKIN foe exemple... could be new Dustin Penner...

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Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Holmstrom

Hartnell/Filppula/Cleary

Maltby/Draper/Franzen

Samuelsson/Hudler/Grigorenko

Kopecky

Lidstrom/Markov

Schneider/Kronwall

Lebda/Chelios

Lilja

Hasek/Osgood

If Bert signs for $3 mil per, then give him another shot.

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I like Kyle Calder, and hope he stays, but Kenny basically came out and said he won't be resigned (see topic: Holland talks about the playoffs).

I think we can also expect Hudler to be gone. If not, then he'll be benched for someone, Kopecky probably, because Hudler and Babcock seemingly don't see eye-to-eye. Just my opinion anyways.

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I would keep Lilja and trade Lebda... sure Lebda is faster but if you want someone as Babchuk you have to give something... IMO Babchuk is going to be better than Lebda...

Hartnell... I would rather go after Pyatt or Zubrus... I hate Hartnell but would like to have him :)

Hudler - we must to trade him, he is not going to play under Bab's so go after BIGGER guys ARTYUKIN foe exemple... could be new Dustin Penner...

i dont agree with trading lebda , hes been a good asset, got loads of speed , will only get better and more importantly is locked up for a real bargain at 650 k for 3 more seasons , trading him is a no no .....babchuk has been traded a few times now im sure he can be had for derek meech whos ready but wont play here and maybe a 3rd-4th rounder

dont agree with zubrus , he sucks and his stats were high cause he played with ovechkin, my friend said he would curse buffalo and play like crap there and he was right

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