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#41 Offsides

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ May 26, 2007 - 06:10PM) View Post

Of course he didn't. That was Steve Osgood who played goalie for those teams. Chris Osgood was on injured reserve for 3 seasons. That's all. tongue.gif

By the way, Lang is lazy and he sucksâ„¢. Just thought you'd appreciate that. hehe.gif


Exactly. Ozzie = Red Wing for life.

Also, I don't appreciate it. Lang is clutch and we wouldn't have gotten to the 3rd round wihtout him....should be his slogan.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(Offsides @ May 26, 2007 - 08:05PM) View Post


Exactly. Ozzie = Red Wing for life.

Also, I don't appreciate it. Lang is clutch and we wouldn't have gotten to the 3rd round wihtout him....should be his slogan.


Agreed.

Lang by far scored the biggest goal for the Wings in the playoffs. Actually, he's probably the player in all of the playoffs that scored the most important, biggest goal for his team.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:21 PM

I think he had the 2 biggest goals, the 3rd would probably be Cleary's penalty shot...at least in terms of game changing goals.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE(Offsides @ May 26, 2007 - 08:05PM) View Post

Exactly. Ozzie = Red Wing for life.

Also, I don't appreciate it. Lang is clutch and we wouldn't have gotten to the 3rd round wihtout him....should be his slogan.

Come on Offsides. It was a joke. Just 'cause the playoffs are over doesn't mean we should lose our sense of humor. Heh, it's actually easier for me to make jokes now, because I'm not so on-edge over every little thing that happens with the Wings. tongue.gif

I still wish they were playing though. sad.gif Oh well, 'till next year I guess.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 09:57 PM

I'm just sick of that phrase.....

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 10:08 PM

Markov has to return, make it happen Kenny. tongue.gif

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(Elshupacabra @ May 25, 2007 - 10:50PM) View Post

I disagree, I think that Schneider is more important on the PP then Markov is on the back end. I think, if we cant sign Markov too, we should sign Schneider and bring up one of our prospect D-men.

I have to agree with ARice on this one. If re-signing Schneider means no money for Markov, then I don't like that move.

Schneider is vital on the PP but let's not forget who actually runs that PP -- Nick Lidstrom. Markov doesn't get a lot of recognition for what he does on the ice but he plays a very good shut down role against top lines. Most importantly, he is a solid, solid partner for Nick. For the first time in many seasons, Nick had a partner he didn't need to babysit. Once Markov got his bearings, he fit in well.

With Chelios and Lebda manning the 3rd pair, the only spot for a kid is in the top-4, and we don't have any kids ready to step into that position. Lebda is a good 5/6 d-man but he is not ready for the top-4.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 11:49 PM

I say that since Bert wants to come back and Kenny wants him, they should just get a deal done right now. I'm sure they can come to terms. Plus Hasek is doing what he did in 02 and taking his sweet time deciding on his future (and the Wings' really) so while Kenny's waiting on that, get Bert taken care of!

Then Schnids should be next because of his ability to play the power play. He takes many stupid penalties but he also is a great point man and has a wicked shot.

Markov is a solid d-man too, but you never knew which Markov was going to show up on which night. Some nights he was amazing and then others a pee-wee could skate through him....might get his head taken off, but you get my point.

And the same goes for Lang. He only showed up when he wanted and granted he scored two huge goals and had a few assists but I don't know what to think. To be 100% honest, I would love to see him back - but at a very reduced price. No reason to have Langer back at what the Wings were giving him this year but if he took a drastic pay-cut (which he won't) then he should definitely come back.

And Calder...I'm with everyone who's at a loss with him because I am too. He showed so much heart in the games he played in the regular season and seriously after the first few games that he played, I was watching him every second he was on the ice, just because he was showing such heart. I want to see him back but obviously if Helene St. James says he isn't then obviously he isn't.. rolleyes.gif

lol side note, thats not a knock on her...well it is kinda, I could write more intelligent hockey articles in my sleep..

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:28 AM

Langer and Bert both two year contracts = veryy happy guy right here!

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trade for Tuomo Ruutu! (he doesn't make THAT much)

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE(Offsides @ May 26, 2007 - 10:57PM) View Post

I'm just sick of that phrase.....

You won't be able to get rid of it, even with Lang gone. Besides that, it's not really a malicious thing anymore. It's just a joke that I and a few others still get a good laugh over.

I don't hate Lang. I know you've accused me of it before, but I don't. I just like the Lang jokes that are made, because their funny. At least I think their funny. Everyone has their own sense of humor though, so it's whatever works for you.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:31 AM

I bet they re-sign both Schneids and Markov. I know for a fact Matt absolutely loves it here and wants to stay here so I bet he takes a pay cut. He knows this is a winning team, and a competitor each and every year so im sure he'll do whats best, and let's not kid ourselves, we need the guy. He's a very vital part of defensive corps. Markov is great as well. Like I said, they'll both be retained. In my opinions, anyways..
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE(HockeyCrazy3033 @ May 27, 2007 - 02:31AM) View Post

I bet they re-sign both Schneids and Markov. I know for a fact Matt absolutely loves it here and wants to stay here so I bet he takes a pay cut. He knows this is a winning team, and a competitor each and every year so im sure he'll do whats best, and let's not kid ourselves, we need the guy.


Let's hope so. I believe it'd be foolish for Matty to head out of town--seriously, anyone knows this is a Cup contender now. They brought it in the regular season... they followed up in the playoffs. Against the grain of everyone's opinions, even their own at the start of the year.

Markov I don't know about, but if I were Schneider, I'd be considering winning another Cup in the latter years of my career. And how sweet that itself would be.


No, it's definitely excitement.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:52 AM

Ha. Keith Jones doesn't think Bertuzzi will be back. I don't even think the guy gives any real reason as to why he wouldn't?

Keith on Bert and Wings.

What a horrid pic, by the way...

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE(Kp-Wings @ May 27, 2007 - 02:19AM) View Post

You won't be able to get rid of it, even with Lang gone. Besides that, it's not really a malicious thing anymore. It's just a joke that I and a few others still get a good laugh over.

I don't hate Lang. I know you've accused me of it before, but I don't. I just like the Lang jokes that are made, because their funny. At least I think their funny. Everyone has their own sense of humor though, so it's whatever works for you.


I have a sense of humor...and jokes are only funny about 100 times then they are stale...which this is. Also, it became the basis for everyone's arguments against Lang. Sure, he could have been better, I'm not saying that he was awesome all year OR that there's not some truth to the joke, but I have this feeling that he wouldn't have been 1/2 as bashed if everyone couldn't pull out the 'Lang is lazy and he sucks' joke.

What bothers me about it is 1) it's not funny anymore, it's old and 2) it gives people who can't think for themselves a weapon to use against Lang.

And it will probably go away if Lang goes away.

QUOTE(HockeyCrazy3033 @ May 27, 2007 - 04:52AM) View Post

Ha. Keith Jones doesn't think Bertuzzi will be back. I don't even think the guy gives any real reason as to why he wouldn't?

Keith on Bert and Wings.

What a horrid pic, by the way...


Eh...he said because of health...valid argument, but I don't think that Bert was bad enough even injured to warrant it...I think an 85% Bert will be better than most of the players that we could actually get to replace Bert...so we'll probably retain him if the price is right.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE(HockeyCrazy3033 @ May 27, 2007 - 05:22AM) View Post

Ha. Keith Jones doesn't think Bertuzzi will be back. I don't even think the guy gives any real reason as to why he wouldn't?

Keith on Bert and Wings.

What a horrid pic, by the way...


Jones is an idiot. I've always hated him , Ever since he was a dirty avs back in 97.

Why wouldnt Bert come back ? He doesnt want 6 to 7 million from Florida or Chicago. Hes 33 , he wants a cup and will take a lower contract to get one

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:44 AM

Bertuzzi will almost certainly be back next year, given Holland's and his comments. The only real question is the salary. We all want to see what he can do fully healed and in shape. On top of that, give him a (hopefully) full season to gel with some good linemates and, as he says, some damage should ensue--of the right kind of course!
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE(DetroitBoy313 @ May 26, 2007 - 03:07PM) View Post

I WANT BERT BACK! We NEED this guy.
Why you dont think we have enough floaters?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:50 AM

Step 1) Re-sign Bert
Step 2) Re-sign our D
Step 3) Everyone gets healthy
Step 4) Sign Fedorov at the deadline next year
Step 5) Win the Cup!

Wow, that was easy!

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(Draperfan @ May 27, 2007 - 12:15PM) View Post

Why you dont think we have enough floaters?


You say you watched him when he was in Vancouver. I dont buy it , He was never a floater in Vancouver, and he was a floater for use like 30% of the time , because he was INJURED.

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Step 1) Re-sign Bert
Step 2) Re-sign our D
Step 3) Everyone gets healthy
Step 4) Sign Fedorov at the deadline next year
Step 5) Win the Cup!

Wow, that was easy!


Can you imagine our 2nd line with Smyth-Fedorov-Bertuzzi yowza.gif thumbup.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 11:39 AM

"I'm going to grab a bottle of wine, and I'm going to walk down the street and around the corner,'' Babcock said. "I don't know exactly where he lives but I know he lives in my neighborhood and we're going to sit on his deck and I'm probably going to bring my wife, too, and we'll hang out and find out. That's how we're having it. I already told him that. So that'll be good and we'll make sure we don't run out of wine.''

Anyone else see babcock getting drunk with dom, and then signing him to some odd ball contract >.>





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