Heatley for Hossa

[Turretin 0]

Watching this series, it was sad to see Heatley on the ice. He is just not the same guy he used to be. He really didn't CREATE anything. He had 0 SOG last night. His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

For the season: 50 55 105

Hossa: 43 57 100

This seems to be a bit of a wash, but I remember how awesome Hossa was for OTT in the playoffs.

Do you think Ottawa would take that trade back if they could?

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Watching this series, it was sad to see Heatley on the ice. He is just not the same guy he used to be. He really didn't CREATE anything. He had 0 SOG last night. His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

For the season: 50 55 105

Hossa: 43 57 100

This seems to be a bit of a wash, but I remember how awesome Hossa was for OTT in the playoffs.

Do you think Ottawa would take that trade back if they could?

I don't think so. Heatly needed to get out of Atlanta, and wanted to go to a Cup Contender, and that's what he got in being traded to Ottawa. The trade has worked out well for both teams, as both players have had 100 pts in their two seasons with their new clubs (Hossa had 92 last year). When the team is struggling, odds are some of the best players will be struggling too.

[Turretin 0]

Well, it definitely was good for Heatley, but he just didn't look like he was even trying out there. I think OTT was hoping on exchanging comparable talent, but getting NA grit. Last night, he had given up before the puck dropped.

[eva unit zero 271]

Heatley and Hossa are pretty close in ability, with the nod going to Hossa.

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Straight up, it might be a fair trade.

But Ottawa also gave up solid defenseman Greg DeVries, who many Wings fans have been falling over themselves about as a UFA this season.

Ottawa would probably have been better off with Hossa and DeVries than they are with Heatley. That said, there is no guarantee Hossa would have worked as well with Spezza as Heatley seems to.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Watching this series, it was sad to see Heatley on the ice. He is just not the same guy he used to be. He really didn't CREATE anything. He had 0 SOG last night. His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

For the season: 50 55 105

Hossa: 43 57 100

This seems to be a bit of a wash, but I remember how awesome Hossa was for OTT in the playoffs.

Do you think Ottawa would take that trade back if they could?

I'll give you that Heatley had a forgettable finals, but I hardly think Ottawa is kicking themselves. Keep in mind that even though Heatley had only 1 point in the finals, he had 21 points in the 15 playoff games leading up to them, and his line destroyed Buffalo.

[toby91_ca 620]

Watching this series, it was sad to see Heatley on the ice. He is just not the same guy he used to be. He really didn't CREATE anything. He had 0 SOG last night. His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

For the season: 50 55 105

Hossa: 43 57 100

This seems to be a bit of a wash, but I remember how awesome Hossa was for OTT in the playoffs.

Do you think Ottawa would take that trade back if they could?

Are you serious???

To be honest, I do not think either team made a mistake, both players have been great and both are pretty comparable.

Hossa huge for Ottawa in the playoffs? Yes, but honestly, both of Heatley's playoff seasons in Ottawa have been statistically better than any season Hossa ever had in Ottawa. Do you realize that Heatley tied for the scoring lead in this year's playoffs with 22pts in 20 games (Hossa had 1 assist). Last year he had 12pts in 10 games.

06/07 - Heately - 50g, 105pts, Hossa - 43g, 100pts

05/06 - Heately - 50g, 103pts, Hossa - 39g, 92pts

Edited June 7, 2007 by toby91_ca

[StaticWithABeat 0]

I think Hossa is the more dynamic and complete player...maybe not quite as offensively prolific as Heatley, but they're close enough in overall talent level to where I'd say neither team really lost out on the trade. All things considered I'd rather have Hossa on my team but I don't think it would've mattered for Ottawa anyway, Anaheim would've beaten them with or without Hossa on their roster.

[StevieY9802 6]

Its even. Both teams won on this one. If I remember right there was all kinds of talk about Hossa being on his way out of there. Heatly had a great playoff and yeah he had a bad final but who on the Sens didn't? Like someone said when the team struggles your best players will struggle too.

[BeeRYCE 2]

Atlanta really did get the better end of the deal when Ottawa threw De Vries in too. I think Heatley and Hossa are virtually the same player with same abilities and same potential. Heatley for Hossa straight up would have been a better trade, but Ottawa getting Heatley never hurt the least bit. He's arguably the best pure goal scorer in the game today.

[STICK 1]

His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

So you are gonna base your decision on the finals for heatley

How great was Hossa this post season in Atlanta

1 assist

At least Heatley got a Goal

[BeeRYCE 2]

Yeah, you can credit Pahlsson/Niedermayer/Moen for shutting Heatley down.

[Guest Crymson]

Watching this series, it was sad to see Heatley on the ice. He is just not the same guy he used to be. He really didn't CREATE anything. He had 0 SOG last night. His only goal (and point) of the series was off of a perfect pass by Eaves. He was a minus 3 in the series

For the season: 50 55 105

Hossa: 43 57 100

This seems to be a bit of a wash, but I remember how awesome Hossa was for OTT in the playoffs.

Do you think Ottawa would take that trade back if they could?

What a hideous case of hindsight. Would you have said this earlier in the season?

For that matter, would you have said this earlier in the PLAYOFFS?? What, is Heatley just not the same guy he used to be.. in THE CONFERENCE FINALS???!!!!! He had 21 points in 15 games going into the finals!!! What are you smoking??

In short, let's review: this year, Heatley posted his best regular-season point total ever and utterly cleaned up in the playoffs until the finals. How, praytell, is that "just not what he used to be"? The guy is also only 27!!! Omg..

Hossa? One point in the playoffs this year. Four points in seven playoff games in '03-'04. Heatley with 22 in 20 this year and 12 in 10 last year. GG. What on earth are you talking about here?

[Matt 1,048]

Given a choice between the two, I choose Heatley.

[Guest bullocks]

Heatley is the better player. More natural goal scorer. Was tied for scoring in the playoffs. I can't even see how someone could bring this up.

[Turretin 0]

What a hideous case of hindsight. Would you have said this earlier in the season?

For that matter, would you have said this earlier in the PLAYOFFS?? What, is Heatley just not the same guy he used to be.. in THE CONFERENCE FINALS???!!!!! He had 21 points in 15 games going into the finals!!! What are you smoking??

In short, let's review: this year, Heatley posted his best regular-season point total ever and utterly cleaned up in the playoffs until the finals. How, praytell, is that "just not what he used to be"? The guy is also only 27!!! Omg..

Hossa? One point in the playoffs this year. Four points in seven playoff games in '03-'04. Heatley with 22 in 20 this year and 12 in 10 last year. GG. What on earth are you talking about here?

Alright, alright...maybe it was a stupid comment. Stop being a jackass.

[GoHabs007 0]

It was a good trade for both teams. Heatley needed a change of scenery and Ottawa needed a breath of fresh air after so many playoff failures. Heatley is a couple years younger, which is why Atlanta convinced them to send deVries in the deal.

[Guest Crymson]

Alright, alright...maybe it was a stupid comment. Stop being a jackass.

Jackass? No. You misconstrue me. I am not bashing you. I'm just wondering what brought this about.

Hindsight can be found in hideous surplus on these boards.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Hossa and Heatley are about the same in natural ability.

As far as the playoffs go, Hossa has been far worse than Heatley has during these SCF. Heatley was ripping other teams apart until the SCF came around, then he just went to sleep. He was still better this year than Hossa ever was in Ottawa though.

[T-Ruff 47]

Heatley was leading playoff scoring until he ran into the Ducks. I think the Ducks just did a superb job of shutting him down..... The Senators did not make a mistake by any means....

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Not a second thought.

Hossas a bum in the playoffs , doesnt back check and is bad defensively. Hmm , Heatley did come int 2nd in playoff scoring and have back to back 50 goal seasons.

I'd much rather have Heatley

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Atlanta really did get the better end of the deal when Ottawa threw De Vries in too. I think Heatley and Hossa are virtually the same player with same abilities and same potential. Heatley for Hossa straight up would have been a better trade, but Ottawa getting Heatley never hurt the least bit. He's arguably the best pure goal scorer in the game today.

I think people are forgetting a little bit of history here. Yeah, Ottawa threw in DeVries but Heatley is 2 years younger and the Sens were able to shed some payroll.

Put it this way, Heatley has outproduced Hossa both seasons and Ottawa just lost in the Stanley Cup Finals. Ottawa never made it to the Finals with Hossa. Actually, I don't think they ever made it past the Eastern Finals with Hossa. Heatley had a fantastic playoff year. The finals ended up 4-1. Not many of the Sens looked very good.

Hossa is the more dynamic one on one guy but IMO, Heatley is a natural scorer and he is more physical I think. Both teams did very well for themselves.

[eva unit zero 271]

Ottawa never made it to the Finals with Hossa. Actually, I don't think they ever made it past the Eastern Finals with Hossa.

Something to remember:

Heatley plays on the first line with Alfredsson and Spezza. Hossa played second line behind Alfredsson, and in his final four seasons in Ottawa led the team in playoff scoring three times and finished second one other.

Big difference between Heatley's teams and Hossa's?

Hossa's teams had classic choker Lalime in net. Hossa's center was third-line checking center Todd White, who had his two best years for scoring when he played with Hossa.

Yes, Heatley scored 22 points in 20 games. Guess what? So did both his linemates. If Hossa had that kind of support in Ottawa, the Sens may have seen a couple finals.

Technically, Heatley finished second on the Sens in scoring (Alfredsson had seven more goals). Last season he finished third. Looking at it that way, you can't claim Heatley is the better performer--Hossa led the team in playoff scoring three times from the second line, tied for second on other year, and finished third from the third line in his rookie season. Only one other time, his sophomore year playing third line, did he finish outside of the top two spots in team scoring.

I said it when the trade was made, I'll say it now: I would rather have Hossa.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Something to remember:

Heatley plays on the first line with Alfredsson and Spezza. Hossa played second line behind Alfredsson, and in his final four seasons in Ottawa led the team in playoff scoring three times and finished second one other.

Big difference between Heatley's teams and Hossa's?

Hossa's teams had classic choker Lalime in net. Hossa's center was third-line checking center Todd White, who had his two best years for scoring when he played with Hossa.

Yes, Heatley scored 22 points in 20 games. Guess what? So did both his linemates. If Hossa had that kind of support in Ottawa, the Sens may have seen a couple finals.

Technically, Heatley finished second on the Sens in scoring (Alfredsson had seven more goals). Last season he finished third. Looking at it that way, you can't claim Heatley is the better performer--Hossa led the team in playoff scoring three times from the second line, tied for second on other year, and finished third from the third line in his rookie season. Only one other time, his sophomore year playing third line, did he finish outside of the top two spots in team scoring.

I said it when the trade was made, I'll say it now: I would rather have Hossa.

Hypotheticals are great aren't they. Still doesn't change the fact that the Sens got further with Heatley than they ever did with Hossa.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Ottawa never made it to the Finals with Hossa. Actually, I don't think they ever made it past the Eastern Finals with Hossa.

In 2002-2003 they made it to the East finals, but lost to New Jersey in 7 games.

[FinWing 26]

I see the trade as a win-win situation. Heatley got his play back up to speed and was able to put some of the past behind him and Hossa hasn't been any worse for ATL than Heatley was back in the day.