Roberto Who? 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I didnt say it was a rivalry i said could this lead to a rivalry....just got home from work at the honda center, read the boards and im excited.....cant say i love todd bertuzzi but u know one of those guys u hate till he is on your team...but this definetly means burke knows somethin bout teemu to..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilmer 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 I'm sure we will be meeting again in the 2007/8 playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Who? 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 I'm sure we will be meeting again in the 2007/8 playoffs i sure do hope so cuz damn that series was exciting...i just hope bert and schneider stay healthy to play detroit if it comes to that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 i sure do hope so cuz damn that series was exciting...i just hope bert and schneider stay healthy to play detroit if it comes to that... That's so weird that you said that. For a second I thought you were talking about the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted July 4, 2007 I can guaruntee one thing. This rivalry will do nothing but intensify throughout the upcoming season. In fact, with Nashville completely going down the drain. I would say the Ducks are our biggest rival. Cause I can say one thing with certainty. I cannot WAIT for the first meeting between us. Whoopin their asses will bring a bigger smile to my face then beating any other team. Especially now that they have Schneider and Bertuzzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Unless the Wings go out and sign Arron Asham and Jason Weimer next season, while also giving Brad Ference a roster spot, there will be no rivalry with Anaheim. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Unless the Wings go out and sign Arron Asham and Jason Weimer next season, while also giving Brad Ference a roster spot, there will be no rivalry with Anaheim. Sorry. I'm not sure what you mean by this? You don't think we can compete with them? The Ducks-Wings was maybe the best and most competetive series in the playoffs. Ducks are probably going to lose Niedermayer AND Selanne - they were very well prepared and have tried to sign *our* free agents to compensate. I certainly wouldn't hand them the Cup or suggest the Wings cannot rival them - if that's what you are saying.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 I'm not sure what you mean by this? You don't think we can compete with them? The Ducks-Wings was maybe the best and most competetive series in the playoffs. Ducks are probably going to lose Niedermayer AND Selanne - they were very well prepared and have tried to sign *our* free agents to compensate. I certainly wouldn't hand them the Cup or suggest the Wings cannot rival them - if that's what you are saying.... Those guys I mentioned are all fighters (who don't suck either, since they can score also). There will only be a rivalry if there are fights, and the Wings don't have anyone on this current team, besides one-hit wonder Lilja and Brad Ference (who might not even make it anyways) that will drop the gloves. The guys I mentioned will fill that need, and maybe then there will be a rivalry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 With Selanne and Neidermayer gone, there are literally no likable players on that team. Shouldn't be hard to hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Those guys I mentioned are all fighters (who don't suck either, since they can score also). There will only be a rivalry if there are fights, and the Wings don't have anyone on this current team, besides one-hit wonder Lilja and Brad Ference (who might not even make it anyways) that will drop the gloves. The guys I mentioned will fill that need, and maybe then there will be a rivalry. Fighting has little to do with a rivalry. Yes it does add to a rivalry. But thats about it. Just because we dont have any fighters doesnt mean we wont have a big rivalry going. The Ducks are definitely our number 1 rival. And all I care about is getting more pucks into the net then the Ducks. I could care less how many more "fighters" they have. They are still gonna be huge rivals. No doubt about it. Edited July 4, 2007 by DetroitIan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Th' only rivarly I see be that th' ducks keep lootin' our players year aft year... 'n that be only a one sided one at that... We lose in regards t' th' signin' other players games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Right now the Ducks are just another in a line of lucky teams who caught some breaks to win a Cup. It's likely they barely make the playoffs next year. They're just one of those types of teams. I don't know about that....in the last 4 seasons, the Ducks have lost in the Conference Finals once, lost in the Finals once and Won the cup once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 err...no one playoff series does not a rilvary make talk to me in 3 years. if the ducks make the conference finals without neidermayer again i'll be amazed. Or Selanne, or two soft teams as opponents in the first two rounds. The hockey gods were very good to the Ducks this year - that doesn't happen 2 years in a row... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Has anyone realized that Schneider cannot replace what Neidermayer brought to the table and Bertuzzi can't even tie Selanne's shoe laces The Ducks will be significantly weaker this coming season than last even with there two additions Edited July 4, 2007 by WingNut199 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 rivalry needs bad blood and subsequent wars for the cup. as for now it's the Ducks who have beaten Wings asses 2 times in a row during a relatively short span. and no real payback from the Wings (yet). this would also need more jerks running headless into oposing players in both teams. Pronger alone is not enough and is not that skill-less a*hole as Claude "The Turtle" or more recently Tootoo. if however Wings add some bulk and do kick Ducks out off playoffs next season - there is some chance for a rivalry. slim one, though. too little competition, too little bad blood In no way did they "beat our asses" this year. One game was won when they pushed Hasek into the goal with the puck, and one game they won when they chipped in a puck off Lidstrom's stick with 30 seconds left after we dominated the game. The only "ass beating" I remember was a 5-0 score in California and they were on the recieving end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone realized that Schneider cannot replace what Neidermayer brought to the table and Bertuzzi can't even tie Selanne's shoe laces The Ducks will be significantly weaker this coming season than last even with there two additions Exactly. I would be surprised if Bertuzzi can manage to even play 10 games with his injuries. He's become a major puss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone realized that Schneider cannot replace what Neidermayer brought to the table and Bertuzzi can't even tie Selanne's shoe laces The Ducks will be significantly weaker this coming season than last even with there two additions well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 There will be a bit of a rivalry next year, but what happens next year will determine whether or not it grows. It won't grow because without Niedemeir and Selane, and all the lucky breaks they got this year the Ducks won't make it past the first round. That's two holes that can't be easily filled. I don't know about that....in the last 4 seasons, the Ducks have lost in the Conference Finals once, lost in the Finals once and Won the cup once. yea and Buffalo lost in the conference finals 2 years in a row. Anybody expect them to make it next year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 It won't grow because without Niedemeir and Selane, and all the lucky breaks they got this year the Ducks won't make it past the first round. That's two holes that can't be easily filled. yea and Buffalo lost in the conference finals 2 years in a row. Anybody expect them to make it next year? Was that nah th' same thin' scallywags said about th' holes left by Shanahan 'n Yzerman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Was that nah th' same thin' scallywags said about th' holes left by Shanahan 'n Yzerman? except we proved we could still be a solid team without them, so those are now over. The ducks have yet to prove that now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) except we proved we could still be a solid team without them, so those are now over. The ducks have yet to prove that now Aye, then this will be thar year t' prove that as we were given last year t' prove that. Next year, as last year fer us, will be thar first year without them. Ye 'ave t' atleast afford them th' same year that we were afforded t' prove we be still a good crew wit' out them. Edited July 4, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Aye, then this will be thar year t' prove that as we were given last year t' prove that. yeah i still have my doubts. The ducks will be good but nearly AS good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Those guys I mentioned are all fighters (who don't suck either, since they can score also). There will only be a rivalry if there are fights, and the Wings don't have anyone on this current team, besides one-hit wonder Lilja and Brad Ference (who might not even make it anyways) that will drop the gloves. The guys I mentioned will fill that need, and maybe then there will be a rivalry. I do understand all of yez (far from just you, Kp, I'm quoting you only because you're one of the most eloquent and persistent) "pro-fighters" stance-- heck I want it back too. But the [insert bad word here] insitgator rule has effectively limited this as an option. Despite Pronger's over-publicized suspensions in the playoffs, there were many pens called against our Wings for playing over-the-line aggressively. Had we an enforcer, it could well have been worse in our PIMs. Our PK is great, and shouldn't change much next season, but I don't want them working overtime unecessarily. Given Matthieu on a Duck PP next season, I REALLY don't want a tough guy who adds nothing but a hard left hook and a stint in the box. If I DIID want that-- I'd call for a return of DMac. And I'll never want that, even given that I'm a proud owner of his jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 except we proved we could still be a solid team without them, so those are now over. The ducks have yet to prove that now Like Vipe said, but I can see some of the lower-key Ducks pulling the weight. We'll see how it all goes, you know? I don't want to see Selanne retire but if he does--seriously, at this point I don't want any more obstacles in our way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone realized that Schneider cannot replace what Neidermayer brought to the table and Bertuzzi can't even tie Selanne's shoe laces The Ducks will be significantly weaker this coming season than last even with there two additions VERY good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
