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#41 daniel1

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 04:46 PM

Pittsburgh is tanking it. I bet they would love to deal Petr Sykora and his salary (2.75 for 08/09) so they can go after somebody in the offseason, plus they've got some big name contracts coming up too. Sykora would be a nice fit here i think. Comrie was a real jerk in Edmonton but according to those around the league he was way more mature and a better team guy in Phoenix. NYI are happy to have him now, but if they could get something for him before he walks then I'm sure they would trade him. Fedetenko, Comrie, Satan, Vasicek and Hunter are all UFA next year and if the Isles are out of it by Feb then I would say go after one or two of them. The Isles might be more willing to package two of them up to clear their salary off the books.

I think Comrie and Fedotenko would be nice on the 2nd/3rd line. They're both having decent seasons and don't have any injury history a la Bergoonzi. NYI would be a perfect trading partner too as they are out of Conference and are looking to rebuild so maybe mid-level prospects and picks would do it.

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On D I think we're Ok, but a stay-at-home fella with a mean streak would be a nice addition. Brad Stuart of the Kings fits the bill and he is due to become a UFA next year. John Eskine (6'4, 216) from WSH might be an option here too, he's on the books for another year at 0.55m but at that salary he'd be easy to keep around. He doesn't mind dropping the mitts either so Downey wouldn't need to dress for every game to provide "protection" either.


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Posted 06 December 2007 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(daniel1 @ December 6, 2007 - 04:46PM) View Post

Pittsburgh is tanking it. I bet they would love to deal Petr Sykora and his salary (2.75 for 08/09) so they can go after somebody in the offseason, plus they've got some big name contracts coming up too. Sykora would be a nice fit here i think. Comrie was a real jerk in Edmonton but according to those around the league he was way more mature and a better team guy in Phoenix. NYI are happy to have him now, but if they could get something for him before he walks then I'm sure they would trade him. Fedetenko, Comrie, Satan, Vasicek and Hunter are all UFA next year and if the Isles are out of it by Feb then I would say go after one or two of them. The Isles might be more willing to package two of them up to clear their salary off the books.

I think Comrie and Fedotenko would be nice on the 2nd/3rd line. They're both having decent seasons and don't have any injury history a la Bergoonzi. NYI would be a perfect trading partner too as they are out of Conference and are looking to rebuild so maybe mid-level prospects and picks would do it.

Dats-Z-Homer
Fedotenko/Sykora-Comrie-Filpulla
Franzen-Cleary-Hudler
Sammy-Draper-Maltby

On D I think we're Ok, but a stay-at-home fella with a mean streak would be a nice addition. Brad Stuart of the Kings fits the bill and he is due to become a UFA next year. John Eskine (6'4, 216) from WSH might be an option here too, he's on the books for another year at 0.55m but at that salary he'd be easy to keep around. He doesn't mind dropping the mitts either so Downey wouldn't need to dress for every game to provide "protection" either.
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So, ya... get it done Kenny! Quit resting on the fact you've assembled a well coached, first place team that plays hard every night AND managed to stay 5mil under the cap, lol.


Fedotanko wouldnt be an upgrade at all, and Stuart is much more than a bottom-pairing Dman. Although id LOVE to see Detroit get him if the price was right, but hell be a hot commodity come the deadline. And Comrie will be more expensive than Satan because hes playing better, and hes cheaper.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE(Izzy24 @ December 6, 2007 - 02:26AM) View Post

Detroit will make a blockbuster deal for Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis... oh, wait, did you mean the Red Wings?

...as hilariuos as this post is, it speaks volumes! Mike Ilitch wants to win and win now and often! He showed that when it comes to winning a World Series he won't hesitate in parting with "prospects" and HOT prospects at that to get what he is being told will bring him a Championship. Miller and Maybin were top 10 picks in the first round. They were the future of the Tigers, but this deal came up and look where they are now, the Future (probably more like the present) of the Marlins. I would not be surprised if Holland makes a blockbuster if one arises, but if you look around the league, about the only Blockbuster players are Crosby or Ovechkin and that would cost Datsyuk or Zetterberg and we ALL know that is not gonna happen...

...Fedorov will be here. After that, if Sundin or Legwand show up as well, that will be as about a blockbuster as we'll get...

...all this talk of Comrie when we could have had him over the summer at no cost (besides salary) and the majority of this board was against it. I wanted him here, but everytime I mentioned it, I was told he was a cancer and wasn't that good. Now, here we see his name again, this time he is wanted here. Too bad, because if Holland wants him, he'll cost us twice as much as he would have as a UFA last summer...

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 05:52 PM

Wings don't need a blockbuster trade. No reason to screw with chemistry just because we have some dough lying around, cause god knows it won't just be money. I like our prospects and we can't keep shipping them out and the current lineup is fine in my eyes. The Wings have had what it takes to win the cup for 16 years, its just a game of bounces sometimes. Naslund would be great, but who is Vancouver gonna want in return? I say the trade deadline is for tweeking role players and 4th line or 6th defensemen, we don't need a walking, talking, high-paid name we will either get rid of next season and be down a prospect for our trouble or someone we have to worry about keeping with more important contracts expiring. Need a place to put your dough come the deadline? Make an international call and get Dan Markov back.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 06:11 PM

Why would u?

#1 offense
#6 defense
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i can see another move for a scorer, but no big names that u mentioned.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE(Lou_Siffer @ December 5, 2007 - 11:50PM) View Post

I think its the opposite actually. The chances of landing someone you need are significantly higher right now than at the deadline...when probably at least 5 other teams are eyeing that same player and prices get inflated. Its why im so gung ho they should try to pawn off someone like Hudler right now when somebody might bite, later on better deals will come along for that team.

Mostly I was meaning we'd be paying less salary. If we bring in someone now, we may only have room for one impact player under the cap. If we wait until the deadline, we could probably bring in two impact players.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE(b.shanafan14 @ December 6, 2007 - 05:52PM) View Post
the current lineup is fine in my eyes.


The Wings' lineup always looks fine -- in the regular season. But, as the last 7,000 disappointing playoff exits have illustrated, the regular season means jack.

The Wings need more scoring depth and a big, steady, top-4 stay-at-home defenseman. And some size on offense wouldn't hurt. As it stands, they're counting on two players to win games for them. I don't care how well Hank and Dats are playing -- you need more depth than that if you want to win the Cup.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE(Dabura @ December 6, 2007 - 08:37PM) View Post

The Wings' lineup always looks fine -- in the regular season. But, as the last 7,000 disappointing playoff exits have illustrated, the regular season means jack.

The Wings need more scoring depth and a big, steady, top-4 stay-at-home defenseman. And some size on offense wouldn't hurt. As it stands, they're counting on two players to win games for them. I don't care how well Hank and Dats are playing -- you need more depth than that if you want to win the Cup.


We are about a third of the season in and others are starting to roll. My point is that they have had what it takes, and last year should have beat Anaheim but for some bounces, a bad call, and Dom playing like a cardboard cutout in the elimenation game.

Hate to be the "stay the course" guy, but I don't believe that adding another name to roster and giving up more picks and prospects is the answer, and certainly not giving up any of our current stars. I have never liked the idea of the rental player you hope produces for a couple months and throwing away a player that could be stupendous in the future.

Last year was a definate learning experience for the current roster and I believe if you keep the core intact, the team as a whole will step up. We can't expect to Wings to win the cup every year, as spoiled as we are we have to believe the group we have organized has the tools to get the job done.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE(lnvincible @ December 5, 2007 - 09:57PM) View Post

So i was thinking to myself , what is Detroits odds of picking up someone great from now to the trade deadline? Any realistic trades ? Ive heard some rumors but i dunno if i should believe that Detroit would try to compete with teams for them. Players which are : Hossa , Forsberg , Naslund . I know there's more out there , but i cant think off the top of my head. Anyway OPINIONS!


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QUOTE(edicius @ December 6, 2007 - 02:23PM) View Post

I've crossed out the ones that I don't think are realistic, only because of inter-divisional trades being a rarity. When they actually become UFAs, perhaps, but not before then.


How bout this, we pay Z $8mil a year for the next 7 years, make a couple of minor trades and call it good.


QUOTE(Dabura @ December 6, 2007 - 07:37PM) View Post

The Wings' lineup always looks fine -- in the regular season. But, as the last 7,000 disappointing playoff exits have illustrated, the regular season means jack.

The Wings need more scoring depth and a big, steady, top-4 stay-at-home defenseman. And some size on offense wouldn't hurt. As it stands, they're counting on two players to win games for them. I don't care how well Hank and Dats are playing -- you need more depth than that if you want to win the Cup.


Yea all those early playoff exits... We won 3 friggin stanley cups in the last 11 years. The last one was in 2002 which was only 6 years ago. Last year we came 1 bad call away from the Conference Finals.

Maybe we should trade all our small guys for big strong guys like the Sharks have. Where did that get them lately?

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:23 PM

15% tops. I would LOVE to see us sign Fors-baby and trade his ass though that is as likely as nill.

I would also take Dan Boyle, but that would prob cost us a goaltender. Maybe Liv lilja and a pick for em.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 10:51 PM

Ive also heard a rumor about Sundin coming to D-town if T.o doesnt make the playoffs. And at this stage i really like that wink.gif

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE(Dabura @ December 6, 2007 - 07:37PM) View Post

The Wings' lineup always looks fine -- in the regular season. But, as the last 7,000 disappointing playoff exits have illustrated, the regular season means jack.

The Wings need more scoring depth and a big, steady, top-4 stay-at-home defenseman. And some size on offense wouldn't hurt. As it stands, they're counting on two players to win games for them. I don't care how well Hank and Dats are playing -- you need more depth than that if you want to win the Cup.


Yeah, that Lidstrom guy is doing dick all for us this season......[sarcasm]

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 04:10 AM

QUOTE(chrisdetroit @ December 6, 2007 - 08:39PM) View Post
We won 3 friggin stanley cups in the last 11 years. The last one was in 2002 which was only 6 years ago. Last year we came 1 bad call away from the Conference Finals.


In the immortal words of Matt Foley,

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The Wings franchise is in the business of doing whatever it takes to win it all every season. To that end, weaknesses in the lineup should be addressed, not glossed over because of that totally sweet fake D-Mac pulled in game 4 way back in '97.

You like the current lineup so much? Well, consider this: the only reason it looks the way it does and had such an impressive run last season is because management made substantial changes in response to perceived problems (e.g. Lewis was a bad fit, the team was too soft and old). Management saw a problem. Management addressed much of the problem. It paid off. That's called being proactive.

Being proactive wins you the Cup. What doesn't win you the Cup is being complacent and ignoring weaknesses, especially when those same weaknesses had a collective hand in at least one recent playoff exit.

Fact: The Wings have only two goal-scorers/consistent offensive threats, neither of which are even pure goal-scorers to begin with.
Fact: The Wings' blue line is in desperate need of a stabilizing, big-bodied stay-at-home presence in the top-4. The D has been making brain farts all season long, and it's because there are too many guys playing the same brand of defense (offensively-minded) and not enough guys there to cover their asses.

'97 means nothing. '08 means everything.

Edited by Dabura, 08 December 2007 - 06:52 AM.

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:13 PM

Detroit already has a ton of Blockbusters... I don't think they need to make another one:

http://www.blockbust...indStoreResults

Type in Detroit Michigan and see for yourself.

Edited by OsGOD, 08 December 2007 - 06:13 PM.




Just one chance is all i ever wanted...just one time i'd like to win the game...from now on i'll take the chance if i can have it...just one just one

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:23 PM

OsGod to the rescue.

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 08:12 PM

We need to trade Datsyuk, Hank and Homer straight up for Brad Isbister

Whammy!!!

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE(isbister @ December 8, 2007 - 08:12PM) View Post

We need to trade Datsyuk, Hank and Homer straight up for Brad Isbister

Whammy!!!


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Posted 08 December 2007 - 08:41 PM

No Whammy's



Just one chance is all i ever wanted...just one time i'd like to win the game...from now on i'll take the chance if i can have it...just one just one

#59 Lou_Siffer

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 08:55 PM

STOP!

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damn....
Aaron Downey tally = 4 Wins (Mclaren, PARROS, *Laperriere*, Wisniewski) - 1 L (**Boll**) - 5 Draws (Walker, Fedoruk, Davison, Shelley, O'Donnell)

(* = beatdown) (** = at the end of a shift)

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 10:09 PM

The Kings are toast here's some names I think Kenny should consider.

Camalleri 3.5 mill salary signed until 08/09 season.

Nagy 3.7 mill FA after this season.

Brad Stuart 3.5 Mill and FA after this season.





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