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[DetroitIan]

which one you like better Shamrock or Ortiz?

Tough to say. Depends on if we're comparing both of their primes, or if we're comparing them both as of right now. If we're comparing their primes, I would have to say Shamrock gets the edge. When Ken was in his prime he was pretty dominant. And he faced every top contender(including Gracie in his prime). And Ken has had the belt several times. Tito has had some tough losses lately. He got smoked by Liddell. And most MMA fans agree that the draw against Rashad should have been another loss for Ortiz. But I think Ortiz still has some potential to get better.

If we're comparing Ken and Tito as of right now, it's a no brainer. With age, Shamrock has almost completely lost his game. He's just doesn't have it anymore. So currently I would wanna see an Ortiz fight, over any fight invloving Shamrock. It would be like wanting to watch a high school hockey game over an NHL game. Ortiz is that much better right now. Ken really needs to hang em up. End the embarrassment.

[wingslogo19]

i forgot about evans.. hes fun to watch..
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Since none of us sed Ken or Tito..

take your pick..

which one you like better Shamrock or Ortiz?

What about Frank shamrock

And i've never liked Tito, instead of fighting he's doing that apprentice show

[Grittzkey]

i heard lennox lewis knocked tito out on the show

[wingslogo19]

i heard lennox lewis knocked tito out on the show

That would be sweet if he did. I'll have to watch it

[wingslogo19]

Did you see that Floyd Mayweather wants to fight in MMA now

[DetroitIan]

Did you see that Floyd Mayweather wants to fight in MMA now

Floyd is a complete and total bad ass when it comes to boxing. But I think he's gonna have quite a reality check if he decides to fight in MMA. Floyd is a really elusive boxer, he has beautiful movement and head bobbing. But in MMA, that won't help him at all. Who ever fights him will just know to take him down. Which means Floyd will have to train in MMA for atleast a few years before he has any sort of success. He's gonna have to train in wrestling, jujitzu, and overall endurance. Once he's somewhat mastered that, then he can try MMA. Until then, he will just get beat down every time. I definitely wish him luck though. I like Floyd.

[Grittzkey]

That would suck for him.

it would officialy end the debate of MMA over Boxing. because Floyd would get his ass kicked by any pro mma fighter

[wingslogo19]

Floyd is a complete and total bad ass when it comes to boxing. But I think he's gonna have quite a reality check if he decides to fight in MMA. Floyd is a really elusive boxer, he has beautiful movement and head bobbing. But in MMA, that won't help him at all. Who ever fights him will just know to take him down. Which means Floyd will have to train in MMA for atleast a few years before he has any sort of success. He's gonna have to train in wrestling, jujitzu, and overall endurance. Once he's somewhat mastered that, then he can try MMA. Until then, he will just get beat down every time. I definitely wish him luck though. I like Floyd.

Couldn't agree more with you Ian... And the fighter he was suppost to fight in UFC was none other than....... Matt Hughes, which all he would have to do is take him down and it would be so easy for Hughes

[DetroitIan]

Couldn't agree more with you Ian... And the fighter he was suppost to fight in UFC was none other than....... Matt Hughes, which all he would have to do is take him down and it would be so easy for Hughes

Oh absolutely. Hughes would destroy Floyd. Now if Floyd actually trained MMA for awhile, then MAYBE he could take on Hughes(and still probably lose). But right now it would just be laughable. Floyd does have alot of power behind his punches. And he's super fast. And the guy can punch all day without his arms wearing out. So essentially he could be have alot of success down the road. For now, Floyd has some work to do. lol

[wingslogo19]

Oh absolutely. Hughes would destroy Floyd. Now if Floyd actually trained MMA for awhile, then MAYBE he could take on Hughes(and still probably lose). But right now it would just be laughable. Floyd does have alot of power behind his punches. And he's super fast. And the guy can punch all day without his arms wearing out. So essentially he could be have alot of success down the road. For now, Floyd has some work to do. lol

Oh forsure. He better start training now, because it's going to take a couple of years to get your ground game up

Edited by wingslogo19, 28 December 2007 - 01:43 PM.

[Grittzkey]

Floyyd would make a fool of himself.

Every MMA Fighter has been innit there hole life basically.. weather it was as a kid doing wrestling.. or doing good ole BJJ. all Floyd has is his Stand Up.. and any good MMA fighter will just put him on his back and Floyd will look like a fool..

Stick to what made you your money Floyd, dont ruin any reputation you may have had. Boxing is your bread and butter.. stick to it..

[wingslogo19]

Im stoked about the fights tomorrow night. Who do you guys think will win the 2 main fights?

[Lou_Siffer]

Im stoked about the fights tomorrow night. Who do you guys think will win the 2 main fights?

I havent seen a UFC event in a while, but I'd pick Silva by TKO and GSP by unanimous decision.

[Grittzkey]

PPV is way to expensive.

[DetroitIan]

I havent seen a UFC event in a while, but I'd pick Silva by TKO and GSP by unanimous decision.

I agree that Silva wins by TKO. And normally I would agree that GSP gets the victory against Hughes. But in this case, Im going with Hughes. GSP usually trains for 3 months for any fight. But since the injury to Serra came out of nowhere, GSP only had a month. Im guessing that will be a big factor. But Im definitely rooting for GSP. No doubt about that.

[Grittzkey]

GSP is a beast.. remember that..no matter what GSP Wins

[DetroitIan]

PPV is way to expensive.

Very true. Luckily, about 2 days after every ufc ppv event, it's available to download on limewire. So im always a few days late seeing it. But atleast I get to watch it for free. Can't wait for monday!

[Lou_Siffer]

I agree that Silva wins by TKO. And normally I would agree that GSP gets the victory against Hughes. But in this case, Im going with Hughes. GSP usually trains for 3 months for any fight. But since the injury to Serra came out of nowhere, GSP only had a month. Im guessing that will be a big factor. But Im definitely rooting for GSP. No doubt about that.

Well you could say the same for Hughes though, that he's only had a month to train specifically for GSP. I'd imagine the gameplan for fighting against Serra would be totally different for one against GSP....so all the strategizing time up to the point Serra became out was wasted. I think that gives GSP the edge, as he already knows how to beat Hughes....and Matt after being dominated by him is the one that needs to come up with the new plan. Not that i'd be surprised if Hughes won, the guy is awesome, but i gotta go Pierre after what happened last time.

Interesting about the limewire thing you mentioned, i never used that and figured it was just music. I'll definitely have to look into that, as the major reason ive fell out of the UFC over the last 4 or 5 months is that their PPV lineups havent been worth 10 dollars let alone 40. But if its free, hell i can wait a few days.

[wingslogo19]

The Iceman looked good last night, and what a fight that was with the axe murder. The axe went to the hospital after the fight to get a CAT scan.. I love GSP he's representing Canada very well in that sport. He dominated Hughes in the fight, and it was a great arm bar he had... Can't wait till GSP fights Sierra again, he's going to get s*** kicked this time

[DetroitIan]

Finally watched Nemesis. What a night of fighting that was. All good fights. The Iceman shocked me in this one. Not only did he beat Silva, he destroyed him. It was a miracle that Silva didn't get knocked out. The Iceman showed that he is definitely not done. He looked better than ever. I'll be very pumped for his next fight.

As for Hughes and GSP. That fight was a disappointment for me. I was hoping it would be a great battle. But GSP basically dominated with ease. Part of me was happy cause I wanted GSP to win. But like I said, It would have been nice to see a hard fought battle. All I know is, I am extremely excited for the Serra rematch.