Superman54 91 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Clarke is soooo stupid I remember when he was on "Off the record" (TSN) he stated Downies punch was good and his brutal hit wasn't that bad, I mean thats complete stupidity Clarke was a goon and will always be, He is a close canadite to the Homer Simpson of Hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 I don't think there's a person whose hockey opinions I am less interested in than Bobby Clarke. I didn't need any more proof that he's a moron, but he went and provided it anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Back in the eighties you could chase people down with your skate and not get a penalty. Wow, I sound as stupid as Bobby Clarke. The caps grabbed third seed in the east with only 2 games above .500! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 I think it is to his advantage if we think about it. Just some guy rambling about his team is good, so what's new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 oh the double standards... last year I saw ppl on this board throwing crap at Nashville because they were winning a lot of games by a single goal. this year 1 goal games look OK because it's the Wings, huh? Clarke is an a*hole, but he has some valid, if not overly deep thoughts here. yes those Wings are not winning some of those games by a large margin but it's 82 games season and they simply don't put so much pressure in each games. and if they get a 1-goal win against a team like Wild recently, who put incredible work and still came out beaten... does it means those Wings are bad if they happen to win it in tight competition, coming out flat and still beating Northwest leader? oh, padron... yes, we're not like those 80's Oilers. well, Bobby, do you know a prescription for building dynasty team under salary cap realms? that would be a miracle, because other GMs who are often smarter than you mostly struggle in keeping their teams competitive for a couple of years. and dynasties are just beyond any question. and this: Detroit's really good but I don't think anybody would concede they're going to win the Cup just shows your attitude towards the Wings, not necessarily a valid opinion. if you seriously think not a single hockey analyst sees Wings as a team that will have a strong run for the Cup... that's just shame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Clarke via TSN: The Wings aren't as good as the 80's Oilers. Wow, thanks for that incredible insight, Bob! Why is winning by one goal a bad thing? A win is a win is a win and the Wings are obviously the class of the league. Exactly. Especially when you consider that almost every playoff game is decided by 1 goal, I'd say it's a great indicator that the Wings are more than capable of winning close games. If Mike Milbury and Glen Healey didn't exist, then I'd have no problem saying Bob Clarke is the dumbest hockey person alive. He quit as GM because he was too stupid to understand the new, complicated CBA. Sure, it was a breeze when there was no cap and you had the amount of money available to him in Philly. And yet he still didn't win a Cup. He also forgot the name of the teams 1st round pick in his last draft as GM of the Flyers. The man is a grade A moron. I'm actually happy he said the Wings won't win, because the man is never right. Go chop another ankle Clarkie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 how many stanley cup's has clarke won as a gm. He is an idiot who is a bad judge of talent, and the philly fans praise him for some ungodly reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icer 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 It's no wonder Clarke could never build a Cup winner. Clarke was a great player, one of the best of his generation, but he's a horrible GM. I hope I never have to say that about Yzerman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Nothing. He's a 100 percent right about that. They still have some secondary scoring issues to address, I agree that winning the West is not a given. The past few years the 8 seed has given the Wings fits as we all know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 oh the double standards... last year I saw ppl on this board throwing crap at Nashville because they were winning a lot of games by a single goal. this year 1 goal games look OK because it's the Wings, huh? No, it's not that the Wings are winning games by just a goal and it's OK. It's that the Wings are not winning games by just a goal, they're winning the vast majority by two or more, and that Bobby Clarke is dumb for not realizing it and spouting off without the facts to back him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Can't stand Clarke as a player and can not stand him as a GM. His antics in the '72 Summit Series, purposefully slashing Kharlamanov's ankle and fracturing it is just disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Can't stand Clarke as a player and can not stand him as a GM. His antics in the '72 Summit Series, purposefully slashing Kharlamanov's ankle and fracturing it is just disgusting. I agree. Dave Schultz had mixed feelings about Clarke. He said he was a great leader and a very good player, but he hated how he'd cheapshot guys every night knowing that 'The Hammer' would take care of him. Shultz said there was more than one time where Clarke would whack or hack a heavyweight like Tiger Williams and he'd have to take the lumps for it. He said there were times where he'd have preferred to stay on the bench and watch Clarke get what was coming to him. Stevie will never turn into a Clarke because the man has intelligence. You can find rocks in the parking lot that are smarter than Bobby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Bobby Clarke=Idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shockwave180 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 a lot of the games they're winning are by one goal Once a team gets to around the 41-10-4 mark, the "lucky/just barely winning" argument becomes inane. They're good, but it doesn't mean they're like the old Oilers used to be O NOES! SAY IT AIN'T SO! They could beat you by six or seven Hi, Bob. Welcome to 2008. In conclusion, Bob Clarke: Still a jackass. Somebody reads FireJoeMorgan, I think. Which is a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Well you know...most games in the playoffs are blowouts, so... (insert sarcastic smiley here) why is everyone so pissed about what he said? All he said is he doesn't think anybody is just handing them the cup right now and calling it a day. Clarke can be a real ****** but I'm missing whatever it is he said that has people so up in arms. ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 why is everyone so pissed about what he said? All he said is he doesn't think anybody is just handing them the cup right now and calling it a day. Clarke can be a real ****** but I'm missing whatever it is he said that has people so up in arms. Personally I'm annoyed because he doesn't have his facts right. His premise may be defensible but his claims aren't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Personally I'm annoyed because he doesn't have his facts right. His premise may be defensible but his claims aren't. What are his claims? That we're not blowing people out of the water? So what? Is it important for us to let everyone else know we are blowing teams out of the water on the scoreboard? I don't get the importance of nitpicking this. The point he was making is that nobody is just forking the Cup over to us and frankly there's nothing incorrect about that. So what if he doesn't know exactly how many 1 goal games we've had. Mountain out of a mole hill. Edited February 7, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 What are his claims? That we're not blowing people out of the water? So what? Is it important for us to let everyone else know we are blowing teams out of the water on the scoreboard? I don't get the importance of nitpicking this. The point he was making is that nobody is just forking the Cup over to us and frankly there's nothing incorrect about that. So what if he doesn't know exactly how many 1 goal games we've had. Mountain out of a mole hill. I agree. But I think someone of Clarkes personality and low intelligence gets people on edge. I took exception to what he said because his reasons for us not being a 'powerhouse' could actually be used to suggest that we are clearly the favourite in the West for winning the Cup. Playoffs are about close, 1-goal games. And through nearly 60 games of hockey, we've proven to be the best (by far) for winning these types of games. To measure our team against the Oilers teams of the 80's is also something incredibly assinine. Two different era's, and two totally different brands of hockey. There was actually no reason to bring in that era or those teams into the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 The guy said we win all of our games by 1 goal. I just looked it up and 14/41 (give or take 1 for error) of our wins have been by one goal. So not even half....... The other thing I have problem with is he said the Oilers could win by 6 or 7. I don't have a problem with that, but teams in the 80's scored a lot more than now. A 4-1 victory now could be like 7-1 in the 80's in my opinion. I could be wrong though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 What are his claims? That we're not blowing people out of the water? So what? Is it important for us to let everyone else know we are blowing teams out of the water on the scoreboard? I don't get the importance of nitpicking this. The point he was making is that nobody is just forking the Cup over to us and frankly there's nothing incorrect about that. So what if he doesn't know exactly how many 1 goal games we've had. Mountain out of a mole hill. Then that's what he should say instead of making s*** up. He's not some douchebag on a message board spouting things in semi-anonymity, nor is he some idiot behind a microphone. He's a supposedly highly respected member of an elite community, in a position that carries a lot of weight and responsibility in said community. I wouldn't care if all he'd said was that the Wings were no guarantee to win the Cup, because then he'd be right. I'm not asking him to bow to the almighty RED WINGS. It's just that if he's going to speak off the cuff like that and have his facts wrong, it's one day gonna bite him the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjgj13 30 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Could a team that is by far the league leader in goal differential (+70) really be playing as many one-goal games as other teams? Besides, even if the Red Wings had won every game this season by one-goal, does that really change anything? It's truly amazing in a league filled with parity, the Red Wings have won 78% of their games, and are 17 points ahead of the second-best team. I would agree that there are certainly no guarantees about the Red Wings in the playoffs, but I sure as hell like their chances. Even if they did do this (all Ws a 1-goal game), they would STILL be tops in differential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paveldatsukthenextsavard Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Even if they did do this (all Ws a 1-goal game), they would STILL be tops in differential. the wings goal differential this year is nothing short of incredible, look what team 4 of the top 5 +/- leaders play for, maybe not after tonight but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Are we better than the 80s Flyers? I guess the one thing in common with the 80s Oilers and 80s hockey in general is this. It used to be that if you breathed on Gretsky you got a penalty, now its that way with any player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Are we better than the 80s Flyers? I guess the one thing in common with the 80s Oilers and 80s hockey in general is this. It used to be that if you breathed on Gretsky you got a penalty, now its that way with any player. For the safety of our players, I hope we'd never have to find out the answer to that question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
