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#1 detroitdan

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:17 PM

I don't usually put any stock into what Allan Muir writes, but I thought I would post this since a friend of mine suggested a similar trade yesterday.

Toronto sends Darcy Tucker to Detroit for Justin Abdelkader and Kyle Quincey

"Yes, Tucker says he wants to stay in Toronto, but honestly, who wouldn't waive their no trade clause for a chance to join the best team in hockey? And while the Wings have said they won't clear the cupboards for a rental, the three years remaining on Tucker's deal make him an appealing pickup. With this deal, Detroit adds grit, experience and a knack for timely goal scoring that will come in handy should they draw Anaheim in the playoffs. The Leafs add a young, NHL-ready blueliner and a speedy, checking winger with 15-goal potential."

I wouldn't be all that interested in giving up both of those guys for Tucker...maybe Abdelkader but I like Quincey...Tucker is gritty and he can score goals given the right opportunity...I certainly wouldn't be against this trade if we didn't give up a roster player...thoughts?

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:22 PM

I think we're giving up too much there. I would give the Meech...but not Quincey.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:31 PM

Now we are talking...I love Tucker and the way he plays, he can score a little, fight, good defensively, has a mean streak but.......................................there is no way we can give that much up for him!! These no trade clauses imo are a joke and shoudn't even exist. There is no way Tucker wouldn't wave his NTC to play for the Wing's.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:39 PM

Tucker is not one of my favourite players...but I like what he brings to the table. I don't know how much he is making this season, but he could be a good pickup for the right price. He tends to take stupid penalties at bad times though, that's one thing we don't need. If he could remain fairly disciplined in the playoffs, I'd take a chance on him.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:39 PM

Tucker still has a few seasons left on his contract at about $4 Million, I'd pass on Tucker. If he didn't have that contract, I'd probably be for it.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:40 PM

Whose spot is Tucker taking on the top 3 lines? I see him on the 4th line over Drake, but that's way too much to give up for a 4th liner.

Edited by Airborn, 08 February 2008 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (detroitdan @ February 8, 2008 - 02:17PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't usually put any stock into what Allan Muir writes, but I thought I would post this since a friend of mine suggested a similar trade yesterday.

Toronto sends Darcy Tucker to Detroit for Justin Abdelkader and Kyle Quincey

"Yes, Tucker says he wants to stay in Toronto, but honestly, who wouldn't waive their no trade clause for a chance to join the best team in hockey? And while the Wings have said they won't clear the cupboards for a rental, the three years remaining on Tucker's deal make him an appealing pickup. With this deal, Detroit adds grit, experience and a knack for timely goal scoring that will come in handy should they draw Anaheim in the playoffs. The Leafs add a young, NHL-ready blueliner and a speedy, checking winger with 15-goal potential."

I wouldn't be all that interested in giving up both of those guys for Tucker...maybe Abdelkader but I like Quincey...Tucker is gritty and he can score goals given the right opportunity...I certainly wouldn't be against this trade if we didn't give up a roster player...thoughts?


I would trade both those guys for Tucker in a heartbeat. I hate that littel f**ker but he'd fit in nicely on our team. Just as long as he learned not to take such retarded penalties.

Giving up a depth defensive forward (who might not even pan out) and a 5th/6th dman for a bonofide NHLer who has and can score 30 goals would be a no-brainer.

Besides, I think Ericsson has surpassed Quincy on the depth chart. This wouldn't hurt us in the least in the long run.

EDIT: Possible Lines

Cleary-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Filpulla-Zetterberg-Tucker
Hudler-Franzen-Sammy
Maltby-Drapes-Drake

or

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Homer
Cleary-Filpulla-Tucker
Hudler-Franzen-Sammy
Maltby-Drapes-Drake

Edited by Hank, 08 February 2008 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:47 PM

I wouldn't take Tucker for free.....

Edited by T-Ruff, 08 February 2008 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:48 PM

Haha no forsberg but f*****....ergh Tucker ... there's a classy guy!

Edited by OsGOD, 08 February 2008 - 02:49 PM.




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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:48 PM

He just makes too much money. There's a reason the Wings have been able to have such amazing depth, and it's because they don't pay the Darcy Tucker's 4 mil/year.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:55 PM

I will be sad if we trade Abdlekader. That's a name I want to see on the back of a Wings jersey someday.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:02 PM

I love Abdelkader's potential but Helm will fill the void. Detroit has no room for Quincey if they re-sign Lilja and promote Ericsson

I'd make this deal in a second. Even at Tucker's 4m/year. He'd be like a mini-Shanahan coming to this team.

As for the person who wondered wher he'd fit in/ who he'd replace, that's one's easy. He'd replace Samuelson on the 2nd line. That leaves you room to deal Hudler and/or Sammy for defensive depth. Someone like Staios.

Filpulla - Datsyuk - Homer
Cleary - Zetterberg - Tucker
Draper - Franzen- Maltby
Ellis - Kopecky - Drake

Lidstrom - Rafalksi
Kronwall - Staios
Chelios - Lilja
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:05 PM

No thanks ... We still have to re-sign Zetterberg and Cleary ... Tucker would eat up the needed space.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:05 PM

Move to rumors please.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:17 PM

Tucker?

Are youf****** serious?

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Saran @ February 8, 2008 - 03:05PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No thanks ... We still have to re-sign Zetterberg and Cleary ... Tucker would eat up the needed space.


I'm not so sure. We're $5M under the Cap and if rumors are correct, the Cap will increase another $3M.

With that $8M you could fit Tucker's $4M and resign Cleary or Lilja. I like how Lilja's been playing but I think we have enough depth on the farm to replace him. And who's to say that the Wings can't pick up a rental dman every spring for the playoffs?
We'll easily win the Central for the next 5+ years with the dmen we have now, even if it means no Lilja.

It's true that Zetts will be getting a big raise for the 09-10 season, but the Cap might be even higher then. And by that time we won't have Hasek's or Drapes big contracts on the books anymore. If Drapes comes back it won't be for $2M+. It'll be closer to Maltby's. In the end I'm confident that Holland can make all the peices fit.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:25 PM

Give me a break, Tucker??? This is what TSN says about him

Assets: Always comes to play and forechecks well. Provides an energy boost for his team every shift and has a decent set of hands. Is absolutely fearless.

Flaws: Has suspect skating ability, which has prevented him from becoming an all-star at the NHL level. His agitating qualities can at times hurt his own team.

Career potential: Third line winger.

He's tough, I get, it but really? Do want want to give up Justin Abdelkader and Kyle Quincey for a guy who makes way too much money for what he brings to the table? This era is about developing talent not trading it away for crap!

If there is going to be a trade we should be talking about names like Brian Campbell and Olli Jokinen!

Edited by LIDDYGIBBY5, 08 February 2008 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:34 PM

No way would I give up Abdelkader and Quincey for him. Quincey is real close to being ready for the NHL, and Abdelkader is just a few years away and he could be NHL ready.

And, um, Tucker sucks.

Edited by Chase, 08 February 2008 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:35 PM

I would love to have Tucker in our team. He brings grit, has a scoring touch, would help our PP and he is just a guy who u dont wanna play against in the POs. Due to his contract I also think we wont get him. We need to resign Zetterberg and Cleary. So there is no room for his contract.

Even though I think that we need to give up at least one of our young defensemen. Either Meech or Quincey.
I think Ericsson has more potential than they both have and we dont have enaugh room on our defense to add Meech, Quincey and Ericsson. Plus we shouldnt forget about Kindl who will also be NHL ready after another year of AHL.

Anyways, Tucker would be a nice fit, but I doubt the leafs will trade him and even if they did we wouldn take his 4mio contract

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 03:35 PM

There's no reason to give up that much for this guy. I don't think that the Leafs really want to keep the guy - he's probalby one of the players they'd be happy to just get rid off. Like Kubina in the other post in the Rumour forum. Not bad players but they just make too much money for what they bring to the table. And now before you start going off about how that's exactly why we shouldn't grab them - Detroit doesn't have the cap problem that Toronto has and can easily absorb the contract Tucker (or a comparable player) has. And the only way Toronto can get rid of these kind of contracts is by trading them away cheap.





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