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#1 jim3033

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:40 AM

With the trade deadline coming up, it is still uncertain. Anaheim has 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to use. They will pick someone up at the deadline. Will Detroit be able to counter?

When the playoffs hit, will Detroit have the determination and size to make it out of the west? Will they be able to come back from a tough overtime loss or withstand a bad call? Will Detroit be able to out-wit their opponent? I feel the Wings do not have that 'craziness' necessary to defeat an Anaheim decisively.

IMO the Wings might not pull out of the west. It is possible that Dats and Z will be neutralized. Also, secondary scoring from players like Hudler and Flip will be predictable could be easily neutralized. Injuries are inevitable especially with how big western teams are. While it's possible Detroit can win it with a few flukey goals, I think the odds are against those kind of goals in the playoffs.

What ingredients do the Wings need to win?

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***EDIT: Can should be will! blush.gif "Will Detroit win the cup," sounded too definite at this point. Obviously can isn't definite enough!

Edited by jim3033, 22 February 2008 - 08:06 AM.


#2 Redwingsfan18

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:44 AM

Can Detroit? If healthy, yes. If not, then no.
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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:46 AM

No....what the hell are we supposed to say?

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#4 Echolalia

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:51 AM

We don't have a chance. In fact, I don't think I'll watch anymore.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:52 AM

QUOTE (Echolalia @ February 22, 2008 - 01:51AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We don't have a chance. In fact, I don't think I'll watch anymore.


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Posted 22 February 2008 - 01:56 AM

After the Ducks won it last year, I said that they would repeat. I think I will stick with that prediction. If the Wings pull off a big trade with the likes of Hossa coming in, then I may have to retract my previous statements. Until then I say no.

Just my gut feeling.

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QUOTE (RedStormRising @ July 2, 2007 - 10:01PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ducks are my pick to win it all next year.


QUOTE (HockeyCrazy3033 @ July 2, 2007 - 10:01PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ducks are not going to win it again next year. I'll bet anything.

Edited by RedStormRising, 22 February 2008 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 22 February 2008 - 02:26 AM

QUOTE (Hockeytown Red Wings @ February 21, 2008 - 08:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No....what the hell are we supposed to say?


I dont' think the f***ers should even show up.

#8 jim3033

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE (DaKineMaui @ February 22, 2008 - 02:26AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont' think the f***ers should even show up.


Hope this isn't a bad thread. I'm just wondering what you think it will take out of our current players to win it. Maybe this will convince us the team is good enough as is or we need to go out and make a big trade for insurance against injury.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 02:45 AM

We better make a good trade deadline deal.

I really think when the wings are motivated and play their best hockey they can beat any team, any time. I often see a lack thereof however.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 03:01 AM

QUOTE (Z and D for the C @ February 22, 2008 - 03:45AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We better make a good trade deadline deal.

I really think when the wings are motivated and play their best hockey they can beat any team, any time. I often see a lack thereof however.

In the playoffs anyone can beat anyone; doesn't matter what seed we are we'll be up against a team looking to knock us out...Just hope we make a few additions to bolster our 2nd line, & defense, & all our guys will be "healthy".

IMO - yeah we can win it all thumbup.gif

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 03:29 AM

IMO, we need to make a deadline deal for a defenseman and a forward to anchor the second line, especially if Anaheim makes any big moves.
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Posted 22 February 2008 - 03:36 AM

QUOTE (Osgood=WIN! @ February 22, 2008 - 04:29AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO, we need to make a deadline deal for a defenseman and a forward to anchor the second line, especially if Anaheim makes any big moves.

Agreed; me thinks Feds/Stuart/McCarty would be nice...However if Stuart is too costly I'd say Holland has another Dman in mind.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 06:48 AM

Anybody CAN win the Cup. WILL they win the Cup is the more appropriate question. tongue.gif

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 06:57 AM

Without making a move or two? No, I don't think they can win it, even if they were healthy.
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Posted 22 February 2008 - 07:13 AM

I would say yes. I think they'll get to the finals, but more importantly they'll be playing teams in the Western conference that will fold (Dallas, Sharks or Ducks). MAYBE... maybe Calgary would be a threat, if only becasue they are so physical. Aside from Dallas, the WIngs are the only consistent team on that list. I think they'll get out of the West without injury, barring some freak accident. I think the Eastern team will be beat up, and there you go. Who knows though.

The President's Trophy curse is a myth.... I think it will be a sweet run. Can't think about it yet though....


QUOTE (jim3033 @ February 21, 2008 - 11:40PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the trade deadline coming up it is still uncertain. Anaheim has 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to use and will pick someone up at the deadline. Will Detroit be able to counter?


Wilson (the volleyball/Sharks coach) was showing some stats about teams that made trades at the deadline not being that successful generally, as opposed to trades happening in January, where teams have time to get used to the new guys and really utilize them.

Edited by Defenseman13, 22 February 2008 - 07:17 AM.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 07:39 AM

I stopped watching when the 6 game slide hit and assumed we were done. Does this mean we still have a chance to win the cup?

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 07:59 AM

I was so F-in pissed last night listening to Hockey Night In Canada radio program on Sirius radio. The host (name is escaping me?) and Craig Simpson both predicted that the Wings are almost a lock for a first round playoff exit. They went on about it for over three minutes. Said the Wings puck possesion style isn't effective in a best of seven series. Said they are small, and not strong on the puck. Not enough offense and if they have any hope of getting through the first round, they'll "HAVE TO" pick up a major second line scorer like a Mats or Hossa.....if not...they're easy pickings.

And of course they went on about how the Wings standard MO is to have a great regular season and "never" show up in the playoffs....and get this.."it's almost as if Detroit plays hockey for the Presidents trophy and nothing else."

I almost drove right of the road I was so disturbed by this commentary. I'm mean....AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?? Have we not won three cups in the past decade. Yes, we've stumbled in past years getting through the playoff's....IT'S THE FREAKIN NHL, EVERY TEAM HAS A STABLE OF WORLD CLASS PLAYERS WHO ARE PLAYING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL!!!! YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN EVERY YEAR!!! And didn't we come basically a bad puck bounce away from winning the Western conference last year, and lost to the eventual Stanley Cup champions??

I'm convinced that the national hockey press LOVES to bash and propogate against the Wings and it pisses me off cause it usually is just general statements that if looked at closely, aren't really accurate.

GO WINGS MOTHER-F--KERS!!!! LET'S BRING THIS MOTHER-F--KING CUP BACK HOME TO DETROIT THIS YEAR. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS s***. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF NOT BEING IN THE CUP F-ING FINALS. WE CANNOT TOLERATE THIS F--KING BULLs***...WE ARE THE GODDAM DETROIT REDWINGS AND ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...WE CAN OWN ANY TEAM FOR 10 GAMES IF OUR TEAM GETS AFTER IT. I WANT THE BLOOD OF EVERY s*** BAG TEAM WHO STANDS IN THE WINGS WAY TO CUP THIS YEAR.

ok..i'm done. have a good day.

Edited by Learn2LuvIt, 22 February 2008 - 07:59 AM.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:02 AM

You can bet that Anaheim will be making a big move or two before the deadline. If we don't counter, we will not advance very far in the playoffs.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:07 AM

in the past (especially remember it last season) the biggest problem was the fitness of the D. I remember Schneider injured... and also Lilja (although I actually like him) dallying on the puck instead of clearing it against anaheim. we need Lids and Rafalski BIG TIME in the playoffs if we wanna mount any sorta push for the cup. Plus i think Babcock will have to ditch the rotation of the goalies and just focus on one. If he chooses Ozzy then i think it will give him some real confidence and get the best performances.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:08 AM

We did very well last year and surpassed expectations. Lang and Schneider scored some very very clutch goals in last years playoffs though... But we need to be healthy enough and hopefully get some breaks. If Hasek and Lidstrom are there for the playoffs then i see us having a very good chance! thumbup.gif

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