Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 ok NOW if someone can prove me wrong? haha I really couldnt say, you'd think they couldve gotten more but then again, i dont know anything about Picard other than he does have alot of points for a defenseman (granted, its for the Phantoms...) and is only 22 i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 You know, I was tossing it around in my head that the reason no big trades had been made yet was because GMs were really standing firm on not throwing their futures away for a rental. You know, all those Hudler, Sammy, and a 1st rumors might have some credence now.. We can only hope... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Prospal would have been a nice addition and the price is great, however the Wings would have had to give up a first round pick for the same deal. It kind of makes me wonder if we're going to look at a second tier play like Feds or Lapointe, or if we are really working on Hossa. As far as the D goes I think it will be Stuart or Blake if he decides he wants to come here. It seems that the prices are within reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) Prospal would have been a nice addition and the price is great, however the Wings would have had to give up a first round pick for the same deal. It kind of makes me wonder if we're going to look at a second tier play like Feds or Lapointe, or if we are really working on Hossa. As far as the D goes I think it will be Stuart or Blake if he decides he wants to come here. It seems that the prices are within reason. How do you figure they wouldnt had to give up a 2nd? Philly isnt out of the playoffs. Theyll have a 15 and up pick...Thats not much different than what the Wings might end up with. The draft is determined by your playoff performance now, not your final regular season seed.. EDIT: Turns out the pick is conditional, a 2nd at most, probably a 3rd if he doesnt re-sign. Detroit couldve had this deal. Makes me wonder if we've got something bigger in the works.. Edited February 26, 2008 by YoungGuns1340 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babygorilla 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Great trade for the Flyers. I'll second that. Wings could have received half the team for Sammy if my calculator is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larionov_8 12 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I think the GMs around the league recognize that Prospal plays with St. Louis and Lecavalier, and therefore has inflated stats. He can finish with those guys setting him up, but so could any number of wings that we are consistently calling to be trading. Clearly TB didn't get much offered for Prospal, because GMs know what he is and is not capable of doing. Frankly, he's not an impact player. He adds no size up front and isn't physical. Detroit needs guys who can score 5 on 5 and who can grind to make plays. Prospal is just like many of the players we already have, so I don't think we should lament seeing him traded elsewhere. That being said, not a bad trade by the Flyers. They need to shake things up more than Detroit right now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 s*** son.. No wonder teams arent selling.. there getting nothing in return Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... Right, be mad at Holland because he is one of the 28 GM's that hasn't made a trade today. Good call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... I'm hoping it means Kenny's pushing hard for at least one big name. ...coughHeWhoShallNotBeNamedcough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Boyle gets 6 year extention.... bye bye Brad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I'm hoping it means Kenny's pushing hard for at least one big name. ...coughHeWhoShallNotBeNamedcough... currently on knees drinking and praying.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I hope we make no trades just to piss some people here off. And you know, in all seriousness, I wouldn't be shocked if we stand firm with what we've got and I'd be ok with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 currently on knees drinking and praying.... Same. I found a gospel choir and they've been wailing behind me all day. Think that'll help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... Plenty of time left bud, dont lose it so soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... Plenty of time left bud, dont lose it so soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Right, be mad at Holland because he is one of the 28 GM's that hasn't made a trade today. Good call. I am not mad, I am disapointed he hasn't made a great cheap move like Philly did. You know what, I don't care what you think. You do nothing but complain about what I post, and you never get what I am saying. I have no interest in trying to comunicate with you. I am not trying to be confrontational or anything, but I ignore you on a daily basis for talking down to me. I am sooooooo sorry about thinking that getting Prospal for a prospect and a second rounder would have been a great move for Holland to make. I should have known not to dare to have an opinion on a message board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Boyle gets 6 year extention.... bye bye Brad. Whos Brad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I can understand the frustration in not getting Prospal at what seems to be a steal. But we need to have some patience with Kenny. We will be okay. We all have opinions but there are way to many people who get agitated and such when Kenny is in an apparent state of stasis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 This is what upsets me, it seems Prospal was one of the few players on the cheap. Philly got him for next to nothing, which is what we shoulda did. I am rarely dissapointed in kenny, but Ottawa and Phillys trades make me dissapointed in him. I think Cammaleri and Staios should be our targets now. I fear we aren't getting the forward we need.... DETROIT DOES NOT TRADE WITH CAROLINA. You cant get mad at Holland for not making a trade that he can't make. Illitch and Karmanos hate each other, and therefore dont trade with each other. Not to mention, how is it do you think that Holland could make that same trade. Its not like we can just substitute any two random players for Corvo and Eaves and have it make sense for Carolina. General managing 101 people! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Whos Brad? Brad Richards, the extension ensures Brad Richards is getting shipped. Dallas is the best bet there, but I still think it will be a surpise blockbuster. Just a feeling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Cant we all just get along! Cmon guys I know we are all getting antsy about the deadline But lets just wait till Holland does a move and we all have these on our faces And if he doesn't......................................................................... SCREW U ALL!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Whos Brad? i think he means since boyle re-signed, brad richards is gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I am not mad, I am disapointed he hasn't made a great cheap move like Philly did. You know what, I don't care what you think. You do nothing but complain about what I post, and you never get what I am saying. I have no interest in trying to comunicate with you. I am not trying to be confrontational or anything, but I ignore you on a daily basis for talking down to me. I am sooooooo sorry about thinking that getting Prospal for a prospect and a second rounder would have been a great move for Holland to make. I should have known not to dare to have an opinion on a message board. Maybe he needs that to make a bigger deal for Hossa who has agreed to sign a 7-year extension with us at $1.1 million plus a box of Wheaties per year. You don't know. You don't know what Tampa wanted/needed. Kenny's not stupid despite what so many seem to believe. If it weren't for the "so many" spoken of, maybe people would be more tolerant of your disappointment of the matter as the disappointment of everyone else. It gets old. Fast. And it's a message board. Who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattkientz 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Whos Brad? I think he means Richards 'll be gone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites