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#21 NHLrules?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:27 AM

IMO what makes Holland a failure over the last few years, his lack of moves in the off season.

This man has admitted deficiencies in this team, and still refuses to go out and get it done.

After being eliminated in the playoffs he sounds like a broken record, and fails to accomplish his own goals. At least the goals he states after the season is over.

I think today is another bust.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (NHLrules? @ February 26, 2008 - 11:27AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO what makes Holland a failure over the last few years, his lack of moves in the off season.

This man has admitted deficiencies in this team, and still refuses to go out and get it done.

After being eliminated in the playoffs he sounds like a broken record, and fails to accomplish his own goals. At least the goals he states after the season is over.

I think today is another bust.


You make a very, very good point. One that I happen to completely agree with. I mean how long until the nostalgia of our cup wins in the late 90's wears off? Jesus, we do dick in the playoffs and nothing. Its all about building prospects, which is obviously necessary, but to an extent. look at the differences between our cup winning squads and this one. Then tell me you don't see a difference.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:35 AM

I didn't think his trade deadline pickups last year were bad at all. We gave up Jason Williams to get Kyle Calder who everyone hated with a passion (Jason Williams that is) and he didn't work out, and that happens. We picked up Bertuzzi for no one which created a lot of buzz and could have proved genius if it worked out..unfortunately it didn't. Just becuase everything doesn't work out doesn't mean he does a bad job though. You have to work with what you got...you are giving up contracted players for a guy at the end of his contract who might not sign with you a lot of times...it's a big gamble. Am I willing to give up all our young guys for any player in the league for 2 months? No. I hope that Holland wouldn't also.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:36 AM

And PS. We did very well in the playoffs last year and were more or less defeated by injuries. It happens.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:36 AM

The only moves that will take place is his bowels.......oh... the pressure!!!! I still think Sergei will be back.......Foote will end up at the Avs reunion tour........
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (GMRwings1983 @ February 26, 2008 - 03:27PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You forgot to mention the "Human Tragedy" known as Cory Cross. I just want people to admit that Holland isn't as good a GM with the salary cap than without it. He's still one of the top GM's in the league, but the whole "Genius" status that he's given here by some members just because of past success is ridiculous.


I was on the opposite end of the spectrum, so tired of people calling him a failure that I wanted people to understand he is one of the best in the league, but seeing as you already knew that I wasted a lot of kbs with that post!

QUOTE (NHLrules? @ February 26, 2008 - 03:27PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO what makes Holland a failure over the last few years, his lack of moves in the off season.

This man has admitted deficiencies in this team, and still refuses to go out and get it done.

After being eliminated in the playoffs he sounds like a broken record, and fails to accomplish his own goals. At least the goals he states after the season is over.

I think today is another bust.


He has tried to fix those issues but was not willing to pay Danny Markov 4+ mil a year for 3 years (or was it 4 he wanted), he was unwilling to pay Bert 4 mil a year, and seeing as no one else was willing to pay Markov, and only Burke was willing to pay Bert I would assume he played his cards right.

Do you think Det is the only team looking for a power forward that can score, an enforcer who can at least kill penalties or do something other than throw fists, do you think Det is the only team looking for a Solid stay at home defenseman who can play the PP PK and be a top pairing in case of injury.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (sinbin @ February 26, 2008 - 10:36AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only moves that will take place is his bowels.......oh... the pressure!!!! I still think Sergei will be back.......Foote will end up at the Avs reunion tour........


But think of it...they could get Patty Roy out of retirement, and we could get stevie to lace up and it would be just like old times..haha

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:53 AM

StickNmove, before you lose more credibility in this discussion you may want to edit that 90's comment to '02, but that is only if you want to look like you know what you are talking about.

Offsides if you continue to use logic and post with common sense you will be reprimanded!!

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“Told him if he wasn't ultra-competitive he couldn't come here. If he didn't bring it every day he couldn't come here, because he was going to hate it if he didn't, dislike the coach and dislike playing here.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Opie @ February 26, 2008 - 10:53AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Offsides if you continue to use logic and post with common sense you will be reprimanded!!


Fine...less logic and common sense and more smilies laugh.gif unsure.gif blink.gif scared.gif ranting.gif

Edited by Offsides, 26 February 2008 - 11:03 AM.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:06 AM

4 hrs. left Holland....better make a deal, They won't last in the playoffs as it stands right now.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:12 AM

they just said on TSN the holland is going to be on air soon.
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#32 NHLrules?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:14 AM

Is there a feed of the NHL network show? Bloody snowstorm has made my dish go off line.

Damn dish.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:23 AM

On TSN Tradecenter Holland just said if he does a deal it will be a small one.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:25 AM

Moves? what moves? where i don't see any.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:27 AM

QUOTE (SetecX @ February 26, 2008 - 12:23PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On TSN Tradecenter Holland just said if he does a deal it will be a small one.


I heard this too. (unimpressed)
"In Detroit, every day is a good day to win"

#36 OsGOD

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:28 AM

maybe that means he will just sign some people to replace McCarty on the Griff roster now.... i am cool with that.



Just one chance is all i ever wanted...just one time i'd like to win the game...from now on i'll take the chance if i can have it...just one just one

#37 NHLrules?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:29 AM

Im confused, it seems this team is a slightly faded copy of last years team.

So the western conference is stronger, we are slightly weaker than last year.

bah...

I am concerned about our D, it sucks. And like last year, it will kill us in the playoffs.

Im not sure why he thinks this team is any better equiped to win it this year than last.

Edited by NHLrules?, 26 February 2008 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:33 AM

Especialy after we are barely scoring 1 goal consitantly in games... oh well. Getting shut out 1-0 in two seperate games... and then only 1 goal scored in others.... things can only look up for us!



Just one chance is all i ever wanted...just one time i'd like to win the game...from now on i'll take the chance if i can have it...just one just one

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:35 AM

i am not getting my hopes up. holland always talks but you always get the same result.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (loutswings @ February 26, 2008 - 11:35AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i am not getting my hopes up. holland always talks but you always get the same result.


At least he is not doing the same thing and expecting different results... I never thought Holland was insane, just mentally dumb at times.

I heard he is looking for a nice economy sized rolled of Duct Tape... Go get 'er KennY!

Edited by OsGOD, 26 February 2008 - 11:41 AM.




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