Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 WELCOME TO THE TEAM, STUART! I don't get why no one is mentioning this on TSN or any other site? That is because he didn't pan out in recent years so he isn't a big name anymore. He will be again, he fits the system and has talent. Thusly he will play better for us then anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Anaheim neider - prongger schneider - beauchemin Doesn't matter only on Defense I mean whole team in general Anaheim, Dallas, Colorado and SanJose all got Better Detroit has Samuealson and Hudler, Lilja Lebda and u think they r gonna compete for the prize That's the worst reasoning I ever heard. You listed our worst players and compared them to their best. I guess we don't have Henrik Zetterberg, Pavel Datsyuk, Nick Lidstrom, Dominik Hasek, Chris Osgood, Brian Rafalski, Chris Chelios, Dan Cleary, Valtteri Filppula, Brad Stuart, or Tomas Holmstrom. Just a bunch of craptacular losers. You don't need to put red-colored glasses on. You just need to put your eyes in your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 You don't have to wait - I'll do it for you right now. "At the end of the day there was nothing out there that made sense to us. Plus, with Cleary coming back before the playoffs, we felt that was equivalent to adding a player at the deadline. I like our chances going forward..." "...and we did pick up Stuart plus remember McCarty has playoff experience." Wow, Crymson and members like you, looks like more and more, folks are just as mad as me! Should they all be banned? What do you say Opie? Should they? That would make for a great forum! I can see it now: Homer #1: 'Cool, Red Wings Rock Dude!" Homer #2: "Holland is God" Homer #1: "Hudler is the second coming" Homer #3: "Aren't the Wings the bomb dude?" Homer #2: "Like totally" ...that would be fun to read! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 WELCOME TO THE TEAM, STUART! I don't get why no one is mentioning this on TSN or any other site? Uh, maybe because it is insignificant and not worth writing a story on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 WELCOME TO THE TEAM, STUART! I don't get why no one is mentioning this on TSN or any other site? It's on Mlive. BTW, the 4th round pick is in 2009. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...from_kings.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mario 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Anadeim added selanne and Neidermayer San Jose added Campbell Colorado Forsberg and Foote Then the big Detroit Move Stuart Good Job Holland Samuelsson and Hudler will carry our Second Line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mario 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 That's the worst reasoning I ever heard. You listed our worst players and compared them to their best. I guess we don't have Henrik Zetterberg, Pavel Datsyuk, Nick Lidstrom, Dominik Hasek, Chris Osgood, Brian Rafalski, Chris Chelios, Dan Cleary, Valtteri Filppula, Brad Stuart, or Tomas Holmstrom. Just a bunch of craptacular losers. You don't need to put red-colored glasses on. You just need to put your eyes in your head. What Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony 3 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Guys, we need to make room on the bandwagon. Everyone who jumped off the last couple hours will be trying to get back on. do we have to let um on they can go to pittsburgh or anehiem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Anadeim added selanne and Neidermayer San Jose added Campbell Colorado Forsberg and Foote Then the big Detroit Move Stuart Good Job Holland Samuelsson and Hudler will carry our Second Line I don't get it. Were those teams as good as the Wings before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Jesus Christ - When did Wings fans become such whiny *******? THE SKY IS FALLING EVERYONE!!!! Don't ******* forget that this team is the closest you can get to unbeatable when healthy, which they're expected to be for the playoffs. On top of that, they improved on defense. My money's still on the Wings come playoff time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Kronner has to get moved up to the first Dline with Lids and Ralf the second with Stuart. Kronner and Stuart together scares me. They are too young to not have a vet looking out for them. Stuart has the same amount of experience as Rafalski FYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 IMO we got the second best Dman on the market, and got him pretty damn cheap. He fills needs and with McCarty coming back we are going to be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 What Those players I listed. Have you heard of them? They're decent hockey players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Anaheim neider - prongger schneider - beauchemin Doesn't matter only on Defense I mean whole team in general Anaheim, Dallas, Colorado and SanJose all got Better Detroit has Samuealson and Hudler, Lilja Lebda and u think they r gonna compete for the prize Anaheim is a close 2nd, but not better break it down one by one Lidstrom > Niedermayer Rafalski > Schneider Lilja < Pronger Kronwall < Beauchemin Stuart > O'Donnell Chelious > Bergeron thats 4 to 2... simple math - oh and reserves - Ledba > Huskins you're so hung up on 4 guys, thats all you know how to say, Lilja will now drop to a number 5, making him more effective in his role, Sammy will never be what we need him to be - agreed there, Hudler is a 4th liner playing on a 2nd line and Lebda is a number 7 Guess what, those 4 are a SMALL part of the team Detroit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anaheim period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creasemonkey 30 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Stuart's an upgrade on Lilja or Lebda, and as long as we've got most of our D back for the playoffs, we're fairly solid. Not the best in the league, but we didn't have the advantage of cheating the cap by having our two best players take half the year off, either. After seeing how much Hossa went for, there's a damn good reason Kenny didn't go after him harder. As for all of you crying that he's a failure, I'd love to see any of you do a better job. That also doesn't mean I think Kenny's some genius either, but at least he doesn't trade our whole third line away for a rental we'd have NO chance of re-signing. Assuming they're healthy (or at least mostly healthy) when the playoffs start, I think they can make the final four again, at which point they'll likely be beaten by the Michelin Man and his mighty goon squad, but as I said before, we don't have the cap-cheating advantage that the Ducks did. Burke's crafty, even if he cries too ******* much. That said, you have to actually play the games. I'll repeat that for those of you that don't seem to understand it: you have to actually play the games. You wanna crown 'em, then crown their ass! They are who we thought they were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mario 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I don't get it. Were those teams as good as the Wings before? Not before but they r now Just being honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I don't get it. Were those teams as good as the Wings before? The Stanley Cup is given to the team that adds the biggest name. For example, if LA had added Campbell, Fedorov, and Hossa, they would be the Stanley Cup Champions. Make sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) Anadeim added selanne and Neidermayer San Jose added Campbell Colorado Forsberg and Foote Then the big Detroit Move Stuart Good Job Holland Samuelsson and Hudler will carry our Second Line Selanne and Neidermayer were gonna be on the Ducks from the beginning of the season. San Jose barely had a defense to start with Forsberg...who even knows if he can play anymore. Foote is just not that great anymore Stuart fills the role of a 4th D-man that we've been needing all year. Now, I'm as disappointed as you are that we didn't add any secondary scoring, but Holland did fill a needed hole. The only thing we can hope for is that our slumping secondary scoring comes out of its mass slump sometime soon. Edited February 26, 2008 by al48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Guess what, those 4 are a SMALL part of the team Detroit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anaheim period. And who won the Stanley Cup last year? And who did they beat to get to the Finals? Oh, that's right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Stuart has the same amount of experience as Rafalski FYI. Not the same age though, and that is important. Plus Rafalski has more Playoff experience as well as played in Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 "...and we did pick up Stuart plus remember McCarty has playoff experience." Wow, Crymson and members like you, looks like more and more, folks are just as mad as me! Should they all be banned? What do you say Opie? Should they? That would make for a great forum! I can see it now: Homer #1: 'Cool, Red Wings Rock Dude!" Homer #2: "Holland is God" Homer #1: "Hudler is the second coming" Homer #3: "Aren't the Wings the bomb dude?" Homer #2: "Like totally" ...that would be fun to read! The names you mentioned are the ones who got me banned for a long ass time over the summer because I was one of the "we need a tough guy, and then sign Downey" people. Needless to say they did not agree, and post after post I proved my point with raw stats, and what not. Eventually I try to log in and was banned, then the day I became unbanned, before I even got a chance to post they did it again. They are definitely fickle about their censorship of opinion here, thats why I just try to steer clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Not the same age though, and that is important. Plus Rafalski has more Playoff experience as well as played in Europe. NHL experience is NHL experience. Everything else can be thrown out the window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Not before but they r now Just being honest OK, so if they are "as good" as the Wings now, how does that equate to this: Seriously there is no way Detroit can compete with Colorado, Dallas SanJose and Anaheim Just being honest No Ppoint in even renewing playoff tickets Just look forward to next year "No way we can compete"??? Even if those teams are now "just as good" as the Wings are (which they are not), you have to admit you've gone WAY overboard in your pessimism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 It would've been a better trade if we'd given up a 2nd, a 4th and Samuelsson for Stuart. But....OklahomaWingNut on Abel to Yzerman made a good point. Stuart might play the point on the 2nd PP unit; which will hopefully get sammy off it. So at least there's that. At least he put up pretty good fantasy numbers a couple years ago running SJ's PP for a bit (as I recall). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 And who won the Stanley Cup last year? And who did they beat to get to the Finals? Oh, that's right... yea, missing Kronwall and Schneider - those guys are healthy and you replay the scenario and you have a different cup winner my friend. defensive depth just added that. oh yea, and a guy named Rafalski... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
