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#181 ShanahanMan

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (ARice89 @ February 26, 2008 - 01:54PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not saying top four overall, I'm saying he's a defenseman that can play in pretty much any team's top four group of defensemen.


oh yea, that I agree with. Thought you meant top 4 in the league....heh.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (sticknmove @ February 26, 2008 - 04:57PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
heralded player in the same sense Griogenko (sp?) was? I mean I understand the guy can play the game, I just dp not see any way people can argue that this was a good day for the wings. He is a role player, I mean if we wanted the physical d-man who could move the puck why the heck didn't we sign Markov with the extra money we DIDN't spend today.

No, because Stuart is an established NHL player.

Markov couldn't have been signed because he would've had to have passed through waivers.

You probably wouldn't have considered this a good day unless Holland acquired Hossa, Campbell, and Yzerman.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (sticknmove @ February 26, 2008 - 04:57PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
heralded player in the same sense Griogenko (sp?) was? I mean I understand the guy can play the game, I just dp not see any way people can argue that this was a good day for the wings. He is a role player, I mean if we wanted the physical d-man who could move the puck why the heck didn't we sign Markov with the extra money we DIDN't spend today.


People can argue because they´re smart and know the game on this board. You, on the other hand, come off as more and more of a ****** bag with each post you make.

As for Markov not signing, he wanted a MULTI YEAR CONTRACT, something that Holland wasn´t wiling to give. He also wanted more than he was worth. Why do you think 29 other teams passed on Markov too?
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (ShanahanMan @ February 26, 2008 - 01:52PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
top four?? come on now...

Look at it this way - can you think of 120 better defensemen than Stuart? If not (and I can't) he's a top-four.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (ARice89 @ February 26, 2008 - 05:57PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's your point? Rafalski and Lidstrom are better than any of Anaheim's third pairing defenseman too.


In head to head comparisons as Krause was doing he had Lidstrom > Neidermier and Pronger > Lilja. Which I agree with . When I re did the comparisons is switched Neidermier and Pronger by accident, but it didn' t make a inkling of difference in the final tally USING THAT COMPARISON METHOD.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:04 PM



Brad Stuart lays a hit on Travis Moen! thumbup.gif

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:05 PM

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Brad Stuart lays a hit on Travis Moen! thumbup.gif


welcome to the forum. I was a Stuart fan when he was with SJ. I am sure I will like him in a Winged Wheel. smile.gif

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:06 PM

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People can argue because they´re smart and know the game on this board. You, on the other hand, come off as more and more of a ****** bag with each post you make.

As for Markov not signing, he wanted a MULTI YEAR CONTRACT, something that Holland wasn´t wiling to give. He also wanted more than he was worth. Why do you think 29 other teams passed on Markov too?


Know the game? Haha, ya. Like yourself, I take it you "know the game" better then me? I think not you nit. In fact I think it is safe to say I have forgotten more about the game then you will ever know. I remember you, you were one of the anti fighting cry babies lobbying about how much of a waste it would be to bring a fighter in. Yup, that was you.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (ShanahanMan @ February 26, 2008 - 04:58PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh yea, that I agree with. Thought you meant top 4 in the league....heh.


i Hate to bear the Bad News but i just heard that Datsyuk, zetterberg, holmstrom, hasek, franzen, and FLIP FLOP and undisclosed injuries are out for the remainder of the season and Playoffs

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (wingnutdrw19 @ February 26, 2008 - 02:07PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i Hate to bear the Bad News but i just heard that Datsyuk, zetterberg, holmstrom, hasek, franzen, and FLIP FLOP and undisclosed injuries are out for the remainder of the season and Playoffs


haha?


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:09 PM



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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:11 PM



Hope he brings alot of this!

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:13 PM



i lol'd at this one.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:23 PM

Glad we got depth on D, I'm just really disappointed we didn't get another forward. The second line is just not getting it done AT ALL.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (ShanahanMan @ February 26, 2008 - 04:58PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh yea, that I agree with. Thought you meant top 4 in the league....heh.



STUART?!?!?! THAT'S IT?! I know I'm late to this game, but damn. Not only was he NOT a first choice on defense, it's not even a position that we really NEED someone for. It's nice to know we can have even more backlog on defense while the offense continues to not score.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:36 PM

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Brad Stuart lays a hit on Travis Moen! thumbup.gif

Welcome! Should have waited just a bit longer to pick a username I think though wink.gif he'll have to change his number with the Wings. I'm always curious to see what a new acquisition will wear. Best guess is #8.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:39 PM

Brad Stuart, D, Los Angeles: Plays physical and has offensive ability. He'll likely be purely a rental, and will return to Los Angeles, but he can add veteran depth to a team.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Dominator2005 @ February 26, 2008 - 05:39PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brad Stuart, D, Los Angeles: Plays physical and has offensive ability. He'll likely be purely a rental, and will return to Los Angeles, but he can add veteran depth to a team.

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He better not be a damn rental!

I like Stuart and all, but I fail to see how adding to an already pretty stacked defense really changed the equation in the West at all.

As far as I see it, Colorado, Dallas, and Anaheim got more scoring AND even tougher (and they already were physical), wheras Detroit just got a tiny bit deeper on defense and still suffers from lack of scoring and passion.

Hm...I still feel we will win the Cup, but today sure didn't make the trip any easier, did it?

As long as Stuart can break up Anaheim's cycling plays, we'll be in pretty good shape against those three teams.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:56 PM

We added quite nice effort according these stats:

Shot blocking:

Andreas Lilja 91
Brad Stuart 88
Brian Rafalski 64
Nicklas Lidstrom 62
Niklas Kronwall 55
Chris Chelios 41
Brett Lebda 26
Derek Meech 14

Hits:

Andreas Lilja 109
Brad Stuart 82
Niklas Kronwall 67
Chris Chelios 45
Brett Lebda 38
Brian Rafalski 26
Nicklas Lidstrom 22
Derek Meech 14

I really like him.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (VM1138 @ February 26, 2008 - 05:49PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He better not be a damn rental!

I like Stuart and all, but I fail to see how adding to an already pretty stacked defense really changed the equation in the West at all.

As far as I see it, Colorado, Dallas, and Anaheim got more scoring AND even tougher (and they already were physical), wheras Detroit just got a tiny bit deeper on defense and still suffers from lack of scoring and passion.

Hm...I still feel we will win the Cup, but today sure didn't make the trip any easier, did it?

As long as Stuart can break up Anaheim's cycling plays, we'll be in pretty good shape against those three teams.



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