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#1 Shaman

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:22 PM

Has anyone else noticed since separating that line the wings scoring has been lackluster? I think babcock needs to bring the line back, because personally im tired of watching Dats making a great pass with no one to finish it, or zetts fight for open ice with no one able to get him the puck. I could understand separating the line if they werent producing, but they always do, it still makes me wonder why babs did it, so from here till they arent the best line in the NHL I vote keep them together.

Edited by Shaman464, 16 March 2008 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:48 PM

Hard to keep a line together when one of the guys is injured. Homer is out sir.
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:52 PM

I don't think they should bring that line back untill cleary comes back

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:52 PM

Until Cleary and Homer are back I like how the lines are. I would like to see the playoff lines be this though

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Homer
Franzen-Filppula-Cleary

But in reality I see

Filpulla-Datsyuk-Homer
Franzen-Z-Sammy
Cleary-Draper-Maltby

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:53 PM

I like having them broke up. If they are together in the playoffs they will be shut down. One thing I'd like to see, however, is Franzen be with Datsyuk instead of Zetterberg, and Filppula be with Zetterberg instead of Datsyuk. I'm not huge on Flip and Dats being on the same line because they both seem to be very similar as playmakers. Franzen would be good with Dats I think, and Flip would be able to set up Hank quite nicely.

I'd like to see:
Franzen-Datsyuk-Cleary
Flip-Hank-Homer

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:04 PM

Datsyuk is still getting points and playing well with his linemates...but Z and Sammy together is a waste of Z's talent. I've been saying that since Babs put them together. So when Cleary comes back, and it's a Franzen-Z-Cleary line...i think you'll start to see Z start producing more
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:09 PM

I know homer is out, but, still, Zetts and Dats feed of eachother. And I agree, Sammy is probably our worst player, he cant pass, cant take a pass, cant hold the puck in the zone, and isnt a goal scorer.

Edited by Shaman464, 16 March 2008 - 03:11 PM.

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#8 Z and D for the C

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:37 PM

Bump Homer to the second line, keep it:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzer
Cleary - Franzen - Homer

I'd also really like a

Cleary Datsyuk Flip
Franzen Z Homer

The CDF line did really well when Z was out around xmas I believe it was. I think the latter pair of lines would be great.

If cleary isn't in the first two lines I'd be pissed at Babs.

Edited by Z and D for the C, 16 March 2008 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Z and D for the C @ March 16, 2008 - 05:37PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bump Homer to the second line, keep it:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzer
Cleary - Franzen - Homer


I'd also really like a

Cleary Datsyuk Flip
Franzen Z Homer

The CDF line did really well when Z was out around xmas I believe it was. I think the latter pair of lines would be great.

If cleary isn't in the first two lines I'd be pissed at Babs.


Franzen is on 2 lines?
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#10 Z and D for the C

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:41 PM

Er, throw Flip on the second instead of franzen, haha. sad.gif

Edited by Z and D for the C, 16 March 2008 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 07:44 PM

I'd like to see:
Franzen-Datsyuk-Cleary
Flip-Hank-Homer
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A little twist on this.

Franzen, Datsyuk, Homer
Filppula, Zetterberg, Cleary
Drake, Draper, Maltby
Hudler, Kopecky, Samuelsson

Extra forward: Downey against certain teams

Lidstrom, Rafalski
Kronwall, Stuart
Chelios, Meech

Extra Defensemen: Lija, Lebda depending on if defense or offense is needed.


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Posted 16 March 2008 - 07:54 PM

Injuries to Cleary, Holmstrom, Draper, and Downey prevent that. I know Draper and Downey have la lot less to do in terms of the scoring department but my point is if the Wings are healthy and have 4 lines consistently rolling, there'd be a better chance of Datsyuk-Zetterberg together.

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 16 March 2008 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2008 - 08:03 PM

I dont care whos on the top 2 lines. But its apparent that it should be any combination of Flip, Franzen, Hank, Homer, Dats, and Cleary. Thats it.
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 08:56 PM

With Z and Dats on one line I think we basically start with a one-goal lead. Can our remaining 3 lines go even +/- with opposition? tough call.

Z/Dats/Mule

Filp/Homer/Cleary

goes downhill fast after that...

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 09:30 PM

So, I was just thinking. With Franzen on the tear that he is, and playing really well, do you think that we might actually get what almost everyone on LGW so desperately wants - to have Samuelson finally bumbed out of the top 6?? I mean, with Cleary back, along with Flip, and now Franzen making a nice case, maybe - JUST MAYBE - Babs will ignore his mancrush on Sammy and do what is best for this team, take him off the top 2 lines.

Man I hope so.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (58Miles2Joe @ March 16, 2008 - 09:56PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With Z and Dats on one line I think we basically start with a one-goal lead. Can our remaining 3 lines go even +/- with opposition? tough call.

Z/Dats/Mule

Filp/Homer/Cleary

goes downhill fast after that...

I don't know man. I mean, most teams don't count on their 3 and 4 lines to do much scoring. THey are for checking, defense, and energy. I think we've got some solid players in the 3 and 4 line roles. That doesn't worry me at all.

So yes, it goes downhill when you think of scoring prowess obviously, but I think we are really solid in the 7-12 spot with Drapes, Malts, Kopecky, maybe even Mac.

With Cleary back, and if Franzen can keep up the solid play, I will be really excited to watch this team.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 06:39 AM

I think come playoff time we will see every line suggested here. I'm guessing Dats Homer and Z together will be used as a n overwhelming weapon of offensive firepower if we are either tied or behind in certain stages of the game. I often wonder how Scotty would have shuffled these guys - ah, he was the master. I'm betting one thing - Scotty would have never had Sammy out there this much. The guy is 3rd line material all the way. Funny how he gets a pass by Babs on all this. I guess Babs likes "shooters" and even if you have radar that zeros in on the goalie every time (vs. the top corner...) that's good enough to get the ice time.

As for our second line, I think Franz has certainly stepped up, and with Flip and Cleary might just be that second line that can score.

Whatever lines he goes with, the worst thing that would happen is to not switch them up if we weren't winning. That was what drove me fricking nuts with Lewis. He was waiting for something to happen not knowing he was the guy responsible for making things happen. God, I am glad he is gone.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 06:52 AM

Assuming and hoping that everyone is healthy soon, here is what I would like to see happen, but the odds of the lines staying like this all the time are pretty slim obviously.

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom
Franzen-Filppula-Cleary
Hudler-Kopecky-Samuelsson
Drake-Draper-Maltby

Downey-McCarty toss-up for next spot

I pick Drake over the other two b/c he's been playing very well lately I think, McCarty is going to be an unknown with how he'll be after a long layoff, and I'd like to see Downey out there some if the right situation presents itself if the Wings are getting pushed around too much.

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Lilja-Chelios

Lebda/Meech/Ericsson toss-up for 7th spot

Hasek-Osgood (indifferent on who starts as long as one of the goalies just doesn't stink up the joint towards the playoffs consistently)

PPs...

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom.....Lidstrom-Rafalski

Any combination of Franzen-Cleary-Filppula-Hudler-Samuelsson.....Kronwall-Stuart (Samuelsson as a "backup" point-man, I still tolerate him there laugh.gif)

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ March 17, 2008 - 06:52AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Assuming and hoping that everyone is healthy soon, here is what I would like to see happen, but the odds of the lines staying like this all the time are pretty slim obviously.

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom
Franzen-Filppula-Cleary
Hudler-Kopecky-Samuelsson
Drake-Draper-Maltby

Downey-McCarty toss-up for next spot

I pick Drake over the other two b/c he's been playing very well lately I think, McCarty is going to be an unknown with how he'll be after a long layoff, and I'd like to see Downey out there some if the right situation presents itself if the Wings are getting pushed around too much.

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Lilja-Chelios

Lebda/Meech/Ericsson toss-up for 7th spot

Hasek-Osgood (indifferent on who starts as long as one of the goalies just doesn't stink up the joint towards the playoffs consistently)

PPs...

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom.....Lidstrom-Rafalski

Any combination of Franzen-Cleary-Filppula-Hudler-Samuelsson.....Kronwall-Stuart (Samuelsson as a "backup" point-man, I still tolerate him there laugh.gif)


I love that 3rd line. Talk about putting all your crap in one basket.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 08:59 AM

I have to say, SWF, I think I totally agree with your lines.
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