Gutierrez 7 Report post Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) Theres a rumor on fannation.com about the wings and Stuart Edited March 22, 2008 by Gutierrez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icer 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I'd like to see them try to keep him. You can never have too many capable defensemen. But I don't think they can afford him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 plus he likes the west coast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 They totally can afford him next year, the year after is the question. Zetter needs an extension and I am hoping he just takes the exact same contract Pavel did. If he does, then the Wings will add another 4 million or so onto the cap the year after. I suppose with half of the players getting raises, the belt will have to tighten depending on the cap. Stuart should really take a slight pay cut and stay here because his stock is falling like an eagle making love in the sky and he will prob find money out there, but will he find a good chance to repair his career? I would advise him to take a two year deal at let us say 2.25 million.... That way he could stick around, learn grow with a team, and put up some numbers that would make him a top FA when the two years are up. Who knows, perhaps at that point the Wings could use him even more and he would get paid 4 million, or maybe LA will be a good team again... Stuart seems like he will be a very reliable Dman as he was in the past. On the right team he could be the number two guy. He has got nearly everything, and with some more confidence and experience he may become that player scouts were drooling over about 8 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I would advise him to take a two year deal at let us say 2.25 million.... Nope. If it ain't a 3 in front of that with a few hundred thousand dollars after it, he ain't talking. I can't blame him. 2 years, 6.8 mil. Unless he can get bigger- 5 yr, 21 mil could happen. Not with Detroit, mind you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I hope there's a way to sign Stuart, he's a perfect fit in my opinion. I also think it would be a good way for him to find his game again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 plus he likes the west coast Well, the Wings play on the west coast quite a bit, so he could see his girlfriend from time to time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 great addition so far... keep him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I'd like to see them try to keep him. You can never have too many capable defensemen. But I don't think they can afford him. Cap is going UP... No need for Lilja, trade Lebda and bring Ericsson... Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Chelios - Ericsson sounds good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I'd love for this rumor to be true. But as others have mentioned, there's some issues. Money, his willingness to be away from California being the big two. Hopefully playing for a winning franchise that takes care of its players will be enough to overcome those issues. The Wings could sure use him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up in Anaheim next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) Money isn't a problem at all. Our younger defensmen are at the point where they're making Lilja and Lebda fight for their jobs- they're obviously capable of playing at an nhl level, and probably at the same level as Lilja and Lebda and for cheaper. Get rid of Lilja and Lebda for an extra 1.5-2 million, bring Meech or Quincy up permanently for just under a million, and resign Stuart for another 3.5 million. So essentially were loosing Lilja and Lebda, and gaining Stuart, Meech/Quincy, and about half a million dollars in cap space. Plus, the cap is rising some more, so we're getting even more room. Lids Kronwall Rafalski Stuart Chelios Meech/Quincy looks fine to me Edited March 23, 2008 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up in Anaheim next year. I would, they have to get rid of salary on defense, not add it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 I would, they have to get rid of salary on defense, not add it. Burke will think of something. Maybe next year it will be Pronger and Giguere's turn to take half the season off and then come back right before the trade deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyfolks 8 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 Money isn't a problem at all. Our younger defensmen are at the point where they're making Lilja and Lebda fight for their jobs- they're obviously capable of playing at an nhl level, and probably at the same level as Lilja and Lebda and for cheaper. Get rid of Lilja and Lebda for an extra 1.5-2 million, bring Meech or Quincy up permanently for just under a million, and resign Stuart for another 3.5 million. So essentially were loosing Lilja and Lebda, and gaining Stuart, Meech/Quincy, and about half a million dollars in cap space. Plus, the cap is rising some more, so we're getting even more room. Lids Kronwall Rafalski Stuart Chelios Meech/Quincy looks fine to me I agree with this post. No way stuart takes less than 3.5 (length of term will be an issue). I believe Lilja not taking the deal offered has put him on the outs (along wit some spotty play). Lebda is a 6-7 d'man, no more. He isn't a good passer so he rushes thepuck again and again. I don't like his style on this team one bit. i do think Lilja is a capable #6. If he would take a 1M deal, and Stuart the 3.5, I have no issue letting Meech and Lebda go and bringing up Q for the #7 spot. Great size on the blueline, coupled with great skill for each pairing. Lilja - He is a solid #5 in this league who can kill, is durable and adds grit. Asking him to play the #4 spot is what exposes his weaknesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrozenPuck 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Money talks and I think Stuart will go to the highest bidder. He's a good quality guy, so I would not be surprised if there is gih bidding for his services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up in Anaheim next year. That would just make me sick. But I agree, it wouldn't be too much of a shocker. Selanne and Niedermayer can sit out long enough to fit everyone under the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyfolks 8 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I am not sure if the Ducks wil make sitting out a norm until the rules are changed, but I can't see many players volunterring to lose millions of dollars in income to help the club. I guess, as is the case with the ducks, it is the older vets who don't want their body's broken down and who have plenty of money in the bank. Heck, if that IS the case, sign Stuart and give nick time off until December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholonio 9 Report post Posted March 28, 2008 I think we'll re-sign him. He seems to like it here, we like him... I don't see why not. When the time comes though, I'll worry about it then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2008 I would love to have Stuart on our Roster next year. Holland, "git-r-done"! Me too. Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall and Stuart. That's a great 4 core defensive group. Nothing outside of Anaheim comes close IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 You guys are all forgetting that Holland tried to sign Stuart last summer, and offered big money too, but he wanted to play on the west coast where his wife is from. That and the *length* of any contract are likely to be the biggest problems in trying to re-sign him. We can sign him for $4M in 08-09 no probs, but after that....... And are you prepared to pay $3-4M for a #4 D-man, no matter how good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 You guys are all forgetting that Holland tried to sign Stuart last summer, and offered big money too, but he wanted to play on the west coast where his wife is from. That and the *length* of any contract are likely to be the biggest problems in trying to re-sign him. We can sign him for $4M in 08-09 no probs, but after that....... And are you prepared to pay $3-4M for a #4 D-man, no matter how good? Why not - we are paying $6M (for 82 games) to Kronwall... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) 6m? He plays average of 47 games per season / $3M per season (47 games in his case) Real season = 82 games Edited April 2, 2008 by Dominator2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2008 He plays average of 47 games per season / $3M per season (47 games in his case) Real season = 82 games His 3m cap hit didn't kick in until this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
