GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 without Bettman's points Oilers would be dead last ar nearly dead last in West. do they deserve a playoff spot? hell no. can they make it? yes, but I certainly hope they won't make it. that would be hell unfair to such Dives who at least put some effort into regular season and played solid hockey despite being short on core guys like Sakic, Smyth or Stastny. I definitely want Dives to get the playoff spot ahead of Oilers. though, I don't mind if they screw cheater Burke from draft picks I'm kind of mixed on this. I'd love to see the divealanche miss the playoffs again, but at the same time I'd love for the Wings to play them in the 1st round and sweep them. I guess we'll just have to sit back and let things naturally progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) oh well... even though i hate the oilers gotta hand it to them for doing so well with so many players out for the season. But a high draft pick would be nice considering it is a given that teemu is going bye bye next season... Edited March 25, 2008 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19=Legend 29 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 oh well... even though i hate the oilers gotta hand it to them for doing so well with so many players out for the season. But a high draft pick would be nice considering it is a given that teemu is going bye bye next season... He will be gone until right before the trade deadline and be 100% for the Ducks playoff run next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 He will be gone until right before the trade deadline and be 100% for the Ducks playoff run next year. haha ya i hope so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings56 1 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 That Colorado win last night pretty much killed Chicago's chances - as slim as they were. But for all those who think the Leafs can still make it might as well give Edmonton an even better chance. Edmonton plays against the teams they need to pass so, to me they have to go 4-0-1 at worst to make it. Even then they probably miss. cause that is only 92 points. Avalanche can go 2-1-2 as worst and still make it. I would love to see Vancouver out of the playoffs. PERIOD!!! Luongo and that style is the worst for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) Sure it's good for them that they're in the race despite their injuries. But you said it yourself, they play "decent hockey" for 65 minutes. They didn't play well enough in 18 games or whatever it is to win, but they got the extra point in 15 of them because they have 3 guys who are good at breakaways? I can't see how that justifies a playoff spot. Oh you know they're going to in a few cases. With only 5 points separating the current last 4 playoff spots in the East, and only 3 in the West, I'm sure that the extra points for shootouts are going to make or break more than one team. But its also not enough to fault them for it either. It's not their fault the rules are set up that way, and if the Wings had won 15 games via shootout most members of this board would be saying the exact same thing I am rather than knocking them. If you don't like the SO that's one thing (I don't care for it either), but to fault a team because they are successful at is another given that they didn't set the rules for it in the first place. Also, lets not take anything away from them regarding their injuries. Look what happened to the Wings when the injury bug hit them. Now, look at the mountain the Oilers had to climb and SO wins or not, its damn impressive. Edited March 25, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 It's highly unlikely Edmonton makes it in. I think the the probability of playing Colorado in the first round is high enough to consider it a lock unless there is a drastic losing streak by a team. I really believe the Wings are too good to have a first round exit this year even with Osgood. I'm actually wondering about the second round matchups. If the top 4 seeds beat the bottom 4 we play Anaheim in the 2nd round and if we get past them, another juggernaut in the 3rd round. If there is a 3-6 upset we could face Minnesota, Dallas, Calgary or Vancouver depending on how they finish. Also, San Jose would play Anaheim in the 2nd round. I find this scenario more favorable. We wouldn't get stuck playing 2 of the big 3 (Detroit, San Jose, Anaheim) like we did last year. That 3rd seed looks a lot weaker than the others in the top 4 which will benefit San Jose if the 3rd seed gets past the 1st round. Hope there is a 3-6 upset! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 I don't want the Wings to play Edmonton in the playoffs, but then again, somebody brought up the whole Brian Burke thing... so, that officially trumps all. Go Oilers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 But its also not enough to fault them for it either. It's not their fault the rules are set up that way, and if the Wings had won 15 games via shootout most members of this board would be saying the exact same thing I am rather than knocking them. If you don't like the SO that's one thing (I don't care for it either), but to fault a team because they are successful at is another given that they didn't set the rules for it in the first place. Also, lets not take anything away from them regarding their injuries. Look what happened to the Wings when the injury bug hit them. Now, look at the mountain the Oilers had to climb and SO wins or not, its damn impressive. I'm not saying what they're doing isn't impressive. I'm saying it's stupid that they have a chance to do it in the 1st place. As for your point about the Wings... well my problem isn't just that they have 15 shootout wins, it's that it's so far ahead of what everyone else has. If every game for every team went to a shootout then that would be fine, but they're in them so often. Plain and simple, those are games they didn't deserve to win. I'm not saying they deserved to lose them either, but... I'm not faulting Edmonton for having those extra 15 points. I'm just saying that a 15 point difference is hugely significant come the end of the season, and the NHL is stupid for giving teams like Edmonton a chance they don't deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csdan 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) I'm not so much against getting the 2 points for a shoot out win as I am against 3 point games. If you take out all the OT or SO losses this is how the standings would look: Det 100 SJ 90 MN 80 Ana 86 Dal 84 Col 80 Cal 78 Edm 78 Van 76 Edited March 25, 2008 by csdan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 I'll let you know after Sunday! Go Wings, boo Colorado/Nashville! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 I'm not saying what they're doing isn't impressive. I'm saying it's stupid that they have a chance to do it in the 1st place. As for your point about the Wings... well my problem isn't just that they have 15 shootout wins, it's that it's so far ahead of what everyone else has. If every game for every team went to a shootout then that would be fine, but they're in them so often. Plain and simple, those are games they didn't deserve to win. I'm not saying they deserved to lose them either, but... I'm not faulting Edmonton for having those extra 15 points. I'm just saying that a 15 point difference is hugely significant come the end of the season, and the NHL is stupid for giving teams like Edmonton a chance they don't deserve. Bingo That's the key, the NHL gave the Oilers the chance they don't deserve. That being said, EDM took full advantage of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Bingo That's the key, the NHL gave the Oilers the chance they don't deserve. That being said, EDM took full advantage of it. Not tonight they didn't. It's still mathematically possible that they do make it, but considering that the majority of their remaining games are road games, it seems unlikely. Tonight was a must win game for them, but they couldn't beat Minnesota. They looked really flat, which is surprising, considering how well they've played lately. Oh well. Hopefully they get the 9th seed, for obvious reasons already stated, which involve a certain GM of a certain Pacific Division team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinbin 3 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Oilers are done & so are the Preds......we will see either Avs or Luongo! Bring 'em on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Oilers are done & so are the Preds......we will see either Avs or Luongo! Bring 'em on! Predators are just 2 points behind Canucks. with 5 games left to play for both. and the problem is it's Preds who have better chance of coming on top. see: Preds Fri, Mar 28 at Columbus 7:00 pm Sun, Mar 30 at Detroit 3:00 pm Tue, Apr 1 at St. Louis 8:30 pm Thu, Apr 3 St. Louis 8:00 pm Fri, Apr 4 at Chicago 8:30 pm Canucks Fri, Mar 28 at Minnesota 8:00 pm Sun, Mar 30 Calgary 10:00 pm Tue, Apr 1 Colorado 10:00 pm Thu, Apr 3 Edmonton 10:00 pm Sat, Apr 5 Calgary 10:00 pm I really, really don't see Canucks coming through here. and it frankly makes me happy about that. even more knowing that Wings are perfectly able to "give" Preds those 2 points and have them in 1st round rather than Bobby Lou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 With a loss last night to Minny, the Oilers are all but finished. It would be a great story, but it won't happen. They are stuck in the same boat as Toronto, mediocre finishes for the past few years not helping them out with attracting ufa's or getting good draft picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) All I care about is that the Ducks don't get that lottery pick. Edited March 27, 2008 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nutz2u Report post Posted March 27, 2008 All I care about is that the Ducks don't get that lottery pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeatDown20 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Would've been a nice story, but they blew it. But they cost Anaheim a decent pick, and now Nashville are probably gonna grab the 8th spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Would've been a nice story, but they blew it. But they cost Anaheim a decent pick, and now Nashville are probably gonna grab the 8th spot. I doubt it. I hope they do though. Vanluongo is a much bigger threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
