Chaldean 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) After Game 1, I think its clear that Chris Osgood is the leader. Any thoughts? Lets keep this thread updated as the series goes on. Player statistics for playoffs. I'm gonna add a poll to this thread once we have 3 wins in this series. Edited June 1, 2008 by Chaldean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Mikael Samuelsson, obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Zetterberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermania 156 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Yah at this point, I say a tos up between Zetterberg and Ozzy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Do not, under any circumstances, put Pasha by the wayside... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 I would love for Ozzie to get it. As I said in my comments following the game, since Game 5 of the series against Nashville, he's been godly. There's a lot of other worthy candidates on the team, but in the end.....I would love for him to get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 I doubt the writers will vote for Ozzie, just because he's well...Ozzie. Z or Oz u can't go wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Zetterberg. He's 3 points shy of holding the Wings' single-season playoff scoring record. He already holds a share of the single-season playoff goal-scoring record. Oz has been amazing and absolutely everything we could have hoped for and more, but he's not been as dominant as Z. Hank on the PK has been godly. Z has 5 shorthanded points. Only 2 powerplay goals have been scored while he's on the ice. That's epic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettsyukwall415 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) Zetterberg. He's 3 points shy of holding the Wings' single-season playoff scoring record. He already holds a share of the single-season playoff goal-scoring record. Oz has been amazing and absolutely everything we could have hoped for and more, but he's not been as dominant as Z. Hank on the PK has been godly. Z has 5 shorthanded points. Only 2 powerplay goals have been scored while he's on the ice. That's epic. Wow. That is amazing and I honestly think he will do it. He's my pick for MVP right now, but Ozzie and Datsyuk are close. I do find it kind of odd how everyone says we have the best defense in the league, yet say Ozzie is one of, if not the front runner for the Conn Smythe (including myself). Wouldn't that imply the defense is not doing as great a job as we brag about? By the way, I am LOVING Kronwall! He has been awesome. Edited May 25, 2008 by zettsyukwall415 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantRobot 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Do not, under any circumstances, put Pavel by the wayside... He's not by the wayside, he's just in thrid behind Z and Ozzie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legendary D In 03 50 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 If Pav shows up big on the road like he's been doing all playoffs, he has a shot. That said, Z and D take a backseat to Oz at this point. Word, Ldi03 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 As of now it is Zetterberg. The most important piece of this puzzle is Babcock though, this team would never come this far without him. He has really moulded this team together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Give the stupid thing to Ozzie, if not for his performance (deserving), then as a formal apology for ignoring his near-elite status throughout his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Zetterberg is frontrunner. He is simply sensational. Ozzie, Pavel, Saint Nick and Kronner have a chance too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Give the stupid thing to Ozzie, if not for his performance (deserving), then as a formal apology for ignoring his near- elite status throughout his career. I is prepared to catch all sorts of s*** for that edit, but he's one of the most winningest goalies of all time... and even managed to go greater than .500 on the god awful Islanders and Blues.. and put up .910+ save % in all but one season there, which isn't bad at all. Also, doesn't he have one of the highest win %s of all goalies ever? Granted, he's had some good Wings teams in front of him but I urge you to remember he's a PART of those teams. He's doesn't have the best reflexes of all goalies, nor the best glove, nor the most amazing athletic abilities (or the biggest pads, cawfgiggycawf), but he's very handy with his stick (one of the best goalies in the league at such imo), has a very strong pokecheck and ability to clear the puck, and is very, very consistent, especially after he's rebuilt his style. He also has solid positioning and, I'm going to say, is possibly the best goaltender in the NHL at working with his teammates, at the current time. He may not play the puck as well as a handful of others (like Turco), but he has amazing fluidity with the other Wings, and I think this is often overlooked. I've seen plays where he's made a clutch save or two, the puck is out in front somewhere, and he gets up and plays not for the puck, but plays an angle on a possible future threat should the other team get the puck.. even though he's leaving the part of the net where the current possible threat and scrabble in front is going on uncovered. Given the consistency in which he does this (and how often it comes out in the Wings favor), I'm convinced that he does this not in error, but because he has a very high amount of confidence in the defensemen on his team (and rightfully so). They also seem to have a very high confidence level in him, leaving him to play the angles and stuffing pucks into his pads when needed, letting him do his job while they go to block shots or cover their zone. The parity that this Wings team and Osgood have is hard to notice at first glance, but phenomenal and very rare. I think this more than anything else is why Osgood has been so clutch since being put in, and that's not besides his ability.. rather, that's part of his ability, and in my opinion it's a very valuable talent. This is only further complimented by his excellent personality and attitude. Damn, wouldntcha know the guy has good looks, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truebladearmy 33 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Zetterberg is frontrunner. He is simply sensational. Ozzie, Pavel, Saint Nick and Kronner have a chance too. I don't see Kronner being a candidate just because it usually takes incredibly exceptional defensive play to be considered. Zetterberg is mostly overshadowing everybody right now, and Osgood has been outstanding, so I expect it to be one of them two. All in all we've had such a productive post season team, that it's near impossible to pick just one guy. Imagine if Franzen had stayed healthy and kept scoring like he was? The dude could have 20 goals by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Okay, now that I've blown Ozzie a bit and pointed out why I think he's so @($*@(# awesome, Conn Smythe. That's a hard one, right now it's definitely either Ozzie or Z. I'm loathe to choose.. they've both been awesome, anyone that doesn't think Ozzie's been awesome is kidding themselves. Anyone that thinks Z hasn't been awesome is on some seriously bad drugs. I'd also love to see either of them win it. I have to say I'd REALLY like to see Ozzie get it though, he only has so many chances left for something like this, and on top of that goaltenders rarely get any love with this trophy. I think if he were to get it, it would finally shut some of his critics up. On the other hand, couldn't it be argued that Z and Pasha could and should be awarded every applicable trophy in existence as a singular entity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 I don't see Kronner being a candidate just because it usually takes incredibly exceptional defensive play to be considered. Zetterberg is mostly overshadowing everybody right now, and Osgood has been outstanding, so I expect it to be one of them two. Well, Kronwall leads all defensemen in scoring and his defensive/physical play is great too. but yeah, I don't see him winning Conn Smythe over Zata. He still has a chance though. All in all we've had such a productive post season team, that it's near impossible to pick just one guy. Imagine if Franzen had stayed healthy and kept scoring like he was? The dude could have 20 goals by now. I agree. But Henrik Zetterberg is probably the most noticable player and is a frontrunner for Conn Smythe in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) I don't see Kronner being a candidate just because it usually takes incredibly exceptional defensive play to be considered. Zetterberg is mostly overshadowing everybody right now, and Osgood has been outstanding, so I expect it to be one of them two. All in all we've had such a productive post season team, that it's near impossible to pick just one guy. Imagine if Franzen had stayed healthy and kept scoring like he was? The dude could have 20 goals by now. Kronwall is very worthy of consideration and I fear he's being overlooked too much. He leads our defensemen in points and his timely and strong hits have added a crucial edge of physicality to our games. Watching the guy is reminding me more and more of Vladdy every time I see him.. now all he needs to do is learn that beastly hip check and go hunt down Le Pew. Edit: That said, I think Z is more likely to win it than him. Nevermind the fact that forwards usually get more love when it comes to such awards, Z is possibly the only player that's been playing a more complete, solid, and important game than Kronwall. And given how impressive Kronner's play has been (mark my words, he's our future #1 D-Man), that's really saying something. Edited May 25, 2008 by The Wheeled Winger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 If Detroit can sweep the Pens or win 4-1 and Ozzie can maintain the same GAA and SV% numbers, I thinkhe has a really good shot at the Conn Smythe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 Zetterberg. He's 3 points shy of holding the Wings' single-season playoff scoring record. He already holds a share of the single-season playoff goal-scoring record. I was not aware of that. Right now Z & Ozzie are pulling ahead of my early favourite Datsyuk. If Ozzie keeps making these big saves he has to win it - the wings don't give up many chances, but the ones they do are normally big ones. Ozzie is stopping them all right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 11-2, 2 shutouts, 1.48, .935. I think the front-runner has to be Ozzie, the way he's played and especially the way the playoff run changed when Ozzie entered the game. Zetterberg a very close second and Franzen poised to jump back in the race if he continues his scoring pace. Sentimentally, I'd like to see it be Osgood, so I'm biased somewhat. As previous posters have said, partially in recognition for an outstanding career. That's not why they give out the Conn Smythe, of course. But he's not undeserving, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) 11-2, 2 shutouts, 1.48, .935. I think the front-runner has to be Ozzie, the way he's played and especially the way the playoff run changed when Ozzie entered the game. Zetterberg a very close second and Franzen poised to jump back in the race if he continues his scoring pace. Sentimentally, I'd like to see it be Osgood, so I'm biased somewhat. As previous posters have said, partially in recognition for an outstanding career. That's not why they give out the Conn Smythe, of course. But he's not undeserving, either. If Osgood keeps his numbers where they are, and DOESN'T win it, it's a joke. I can further back this up: Only one Conn Smythe winning goaltender has ever posted numbers anywhere close to what Osgood is doing. That was Giguere in 2003. And Ozzie has better numbers all-around. If Ozzie keeps his numbers close to where they are right now, he wins it. The only chance of someone taking it away was Franzen and his goals...and Johan just missed six huge games, four of which the Wings won. Edited May 25, 2008 by eva unit zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 If Osgood keeps his numbers where they are, and DOESN'T win it, it's a joke. I can further back this up: Only one Conn Smythe winning goaltender has ever posted numbers anywhere close to what Osgood is doing. That was Giguere in 2003. And Ozzie has better numbers all-around. If Ozzie keeps his numbers close to where they are right now, he wins it. The only chance of someone taking it away was Franzen and his goals...and Johan just missed six huge games, four of which the Wings won. Definitely not. Zetterberg has 12 goals and 10 assists and is +15. Conn Smythe would be well deserved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liloz 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2008 OZZIE!! OZZIE!! OZZIE!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites