Swede40 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 As I said: I believe the Wings will pay him this year. The extension can override the current contract. I could be wrong about the way the CBA will apply but I think the Wings will find a way to hook Z up so that he doesn't have to wait another full season at his current salary before the raise kicks in - the Wings tend to be loyal like that when doing business. I don't. 2009-10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethier_marc 1 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 I like Naslund a lot and think he has a lot of hockey left in him. If they have a shot at Naslund for a year for $4-5 million you know Holland will pull the trigger. Naslund wants to win, he's got that desperate veteran demeanor As for the glut at forward I wouldn't cry about trading away a couple unproven bodies to stock up on draft picks, might be nice to draft in every round one of these years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Franzen - Filppula - Corey Perry Cleary - Draper - Samuelsson Hudler - Helm - Maltby Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Meech Lebda - Ericsson Osgood Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethier_marc 1 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 If we get Perry we have to get Avery too and put them both on a line with Holmstrom so we can be the most despised team ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 I would pay good money to see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethier_marc 1 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 On defense, how about Ron Hainsey? He's young and got a lot of upside, had decent numbers on a ridiculous team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.B. 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Ultimately, I expect us to sign all of our RFA's, and Lilja and Chelios and McCarty. I also expect us to sign a veteran center. I think Michael Peca is the ideal choice in that role. He is a playoff warrior, a renowned two-way player, a veteran and will provide leadership. Although, I think Bobby Holik and Bryan Smolinski and Craig Conroy could also be options that Holland looks at. I also think Hudler will be given every opportunity to earn top 6 minutes this year. He is a RFA next year, and we have to know if he is due a raise in salary and can be counted on for top-6 minutes for years to come, or if he will always be a 4th line-power play specialist. As a result, I see Sammy moving down to play with Drapes and Cleary. Defensively, I see Lilja playing with Kronwall provided that Ericcson does not completely wow us in camp and forces us to waive or trade a d-man. Then, I think the three of Lebda, Meech and Quincey will be rotated on defense, while Chelli sits in the press box. All in all, re-signing these veterans will alllow Ericcson to play 25 minutes a night, and allow Helm to play in all situations and further develop as a player. Here are the lines I see us going with: Z-D-H Franzen-Flip-Hudler Sammy-Drapes-Cleary Maltby-Peca/Holik/Smolinski/Conroy-Kopecky McCarty Lid-Rafalski Kronwall-Lilja Lebda/Quincey/Meech Chelios Then, I project us to add a #4 D-man at the deadline (a Mattius Ohlund, or Matt Schneider perhaps? Of course, if Schneids in still with Anaheim then it won't happen but assuming he is traded before the season to a poor team, and they struggle then he could be an option. I also think we will sign a veteran goalie to a two-way deal to push Howard in training camp. Dan Cloutier might be an option. Ozzie Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_144 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) Ultimately, I expect us to sign all of our RFA's, and Lilja and Chelios and McCarty. I also expect us to sign a veteran center. I think Michael Peca is the ideal choice in that role. He is a playoff warrior, a renowned two-way player, a veteran and will provide leadership. Although, I think Bobby Holik and Bryan Smolinski and Craig Conroy could also be options that Holland looks at. I also think Hudler will be given every opportunity to earn top 6 minutes this year. He is a RFA next year, and we have to know if he is due a raise in salary and can be counted on for top-6 minutes for years to come, or if he will always be a 4th line-power play specialist. As a result, I see Sammy moving down to play with Drapes and Cleary. Defensively, I see Lilja playing with Kronwall provided that Ericcson does not completely wow us in camp and forces us to waive or trade a d-man. Then, I think the three of Lebda, Meech and Quincey will be rotated on defense, while Chelli sits in the press box. All in all, re-signing these veterans will alllow Ericcson to play 25 minutes a night, and allow Helm to play in all situations and further develop as a player. Here are the lines I see us going with: Z-D-H Franzen-Flip-Hudler Sammy-Drapes-Cleary Maltby-Peca/Holik/Smolinski/Conroy-Kopecky McCarty Lid-Rafalski Kronwall-Lilja Lebda/Quincey/Meech Chelios Then, I project us to add a #4 D-man at the deadline (a Mattius Ohlund, or Matt Schneider perhaps? Of course, if Schneids in still with Anaheim then it won't happen but assuming he is traded before the season to a poor team, and they struggle then he could be an option. I also think we will sign a veteran goalie to a two-way deal to push Howard in training camp. Dan Cloutier might be an option. Ozzie Howard I like the idea of a line with filp hudler and franzen. but..... It hasnt been discussed that much lately, but Franzen was pretty much the big surprise towards the end of the season. Why? because he started playing like holmstrom. Traffic in front of the net. However, he was only succesful when he had both samuelson and cleary on his line. Without him, the line producd almost nothing. With him, samuelson and cleary produced nothing themselves. The only one who produced was franzen himself. Cleary and samuelson both had by far the lowest shot % of the team (lower than 4%). That tells me that franzen was obviosly using those missed shots to score. So basically, franzen needs players taking shots, but we should put franzen on a line where others contribute as well. Thats why i would move match filpula with franzen to replace samuelson. So i would propose the following: Z _D_H Franzen_Filpula_Cleary Sam_Draper_Hudler Maltby_McCarty_Helm This way we have franzen as a scorer, filpula instead of samuelson to boost production of the line, and cleary to back it up (he should play a more defensive role though that he did last year). In terms of new players to join the wings....I dont really see how we would fit him in the system. If anything i would have him replace cleary, and cleary would move down to replace maltby. McCarty would be the player that possesing the position to be fought over between kopecky and others... Edited June 24, 2008 by e_144 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Ultimately, I expect us to sign all of our RFA's, and Lilja and Chelios and McCarty. I also expect us to sign a veteran center. I think Michael Peca is the ideal choice in that role. He is a playoff warrior, a renowned two-way player, a veteran and will provide leadership. Although, I think Bobby Holik and Bryan Smolinski and Craig Conroy could also be options that Holland looks at. I also think Hudler will be given every opportunity to earn top 6 minutes this year. He is a RFA next year, and we have to know if he is due a raise in salary and can be counted on for top-6 minutes for years to come, or if he will always be a 4th line-power play specialist. As a result, I see Sammy moving down to play with Drapes and Cleary. Defensively, I see Lilja playing with Kronwall provided that Ericcson does not completely wow us in camp and forces us to waive or trade a d-man. Then, I think the three of Lebda, Meech and Quincey will be rotated on defense, while Chelli sits in the press box. All in all, re-signing these veterans will alllow Ericcson to play 25 minutes a night, and allow Helm to play in all situations and further develop as a player. Here are the lines I see us going with: Z-D-H Franzen-Flip-Hudler Sammy-Drapes-Cleary Maltby-Peca/Holik/Smolinski/Conroy-Kopecky McCarty Lid-Rafalski Kronwall-Lilja Lebda/Quincey/Meech Chelios Then, I project us to add a #4 D-man at the deadline (a Mattius Ohlund, or Matt Schneider perhaps? Of course, if Schneids in still with Anaheim then it won't happen but assuming he is traded before the season to a poor team, and they struggle then he could be an option. I also think we will sign a veteran goalie to a two-way deal to push Howard in training camp. Dan Cloutier might be an option. Ozzie Howard Wow, that is probably the most unrealistic thing that I ever heard. I get it that everybody love Ericsson because he is big, but nobody goes from the AHL to playing 25 minutes a night on the best team in the league. You need to temper your enthusiasm with a little dose of reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Wow, that is probably the most unrealistic thing that I ever heard. I get it that everybody love Ericsson because he is big, but nobody goes from the AHL to playing 25 minutes a night on the best team in the league. You need to temper your enthusiasm with a little dose of reality. I'm pretty sure he means 25 minutes a night in the AHL. Notice he's not included in the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
