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#1 DSM

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:46 PM

http://www.mlive.com...ing_toward.html


In a nutshell:
-Drake close to retiring
-May bring in replacement or could be replaced by Kopecky who may not be ready in time for camp
-Stuart talks continue
-Lilja close to signing for just over 1mil a year for 2 years
-Chelios close to signing
-Zetterberg talks
-Holland think Howard is ready but still wants to bring in another veteran goalie ???
-Holland wants to offer both Downey and McCarty 2 way deals, but not till July 1st


Ok, Discuss.

Edited by DSM, 26 June 2008 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:53 PM

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:05 AM

That was a good read, thanks for the heads up. thumbup.gif

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:13 AM

Cool!!! Everythings lookin' good for the Wings, but I still don't want Dally to go. sad.gif I also don't like the idea of Denis but I especially don't like the thought of Emery being a Wing. Oh well, Kenny knows what to do, I don't.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:38 AM

All looks good except Chelios close to signing. Sorry, but we have so many promising D-men in the system and he's filling that void. I'd rather see Quincey, Meech, or Ericsson more than Cheli... Love the guy though.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:53 AM

QUOTE (BeeRYCE @ June 27, 2008 - 01:38AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All looks good except Chelios close to signing. Sorry, but we have so many promising D-men in the system and he's filling that void. I'd rather see Quincey, Meech, or Ericsson more than Cheli... Love the guy though.

You don't think any of those 3 defensemen could benefit from Chelios?

I think some people are getting their undies tied in a knot. He won't be playing all 82 games. He's a depth guy now. Also, I think Ken Holland knows what he's doing. He knows better than anyone here where those defensemen are in terms of development.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 01:49 AM

Reilly: winning debates all across LGW.com

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 01:50 AM

QUOTE (DSM @ June 27, 2008 - 12:46AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.mlive.com...ing_toward.html


In a nutshell:
-Drake close to retiring
-May bring in replacement or could be replaced by Kopecky who may not be ready in time for camp
-Stuart talks continue
-Lilja close to signing for just over 1mil a year for 2 years
-Chelios close to signing
-Zetterberg talks
-Holland think Howard is ready but still wants to bring in another veteran goalie ???
-Holland wants to offer both Downey and McCarty 2 way deals, but not till July 1st


Ok, Discuss.


Assuming Flip is re-signed then we have 11 forwards locked up. Therefore, offering Mac and Downey two-way deals would seem to indicate that he expects to sign at least one forward and/or to keep Helm on the roster.


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 01:56 AM

emery would be a great signing for 1 million for one year IMO. babcock and co. could def straighten him out and he's young with lots of potential. if he acts likea prick then we could always just send him down to grand rapids...
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:29 AM

Thanks for the great year and hard hits, Mr. Drake!!!! beerchug.gif

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:52 AM

We have seen that having goalie competition is good. I would lean towards Denin over Emry. Denin being with Columbus and Tampa Bay I would guess he is pretty shell shocked and wouldn't know how to deal with less than 40 shots per game.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:55 AM

QUOTE (B.B. @ June 27, 2008 - 02:50AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Assuming Flip is re-signed then we have 11 forwards locked up. Therefore, offering Mac and Downey two-way deals would seem to indicate that he expects to sign at least one forward and/or to keep Helm on the roster.


If we have 11.. Mac/Downey would make 13.. and thats all teh forwards we are carrying.. since we are going to carry 8 D-Men.. Meech would be considered the 2nd reserve forward.. So it works out well..

Helm - Abdelkader will probaly start in GR barring an amazing training camp.. Just for more playing time, not because they aren't ready.

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I personaly think Emery would be a great addition.. He's a good young goaltender still.. In Ottawa the blame was put on him for the losses. Well if you dont have Defense.. your going to end up loosing no matter what goalie you have.. And i think Detroit proved that during the stretch where Lids,Kronner,Raffi? were gone.. We found our selves in the midst of a loosing streak and it was all to do with a Inexperienced bunch of defensmen

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 07:32 AM

whats a two way deal?

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ June 27, 2008 - 06:29AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the great year and hard hits, Mr. Drake!!!! beerchug.gif



Oh yeah. If he does leave now (and I don't want him to either), he will go knowing he laid it all out there to help the Wings win another Cup. He played like a warrior, especially during the playoffs, and he can go out knowing that.

I was also thinking about July 1st coming up and about how grateful we Wings' fans can be knowing Holland's in charge. I'm guessing some fans of other teams are dreading the potential stupid moves their managers might make, while we can pretty much look forward with anticipation to what he's gonna pull off.

Just one more reason to be grateful we're Wings' fans.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:17 AM

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Drake close to retiring

Pretty much figured that.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-May bring in replacement or could be replaced by Kopecky who may not be ready in time for camp

I'd magine Kenny would bring in a replacement for Drake regardless of whether or not Kopecky is ready to go or not.

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QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Stuart talks continue

I'm not holding my breath. I'd love it, but just don't see it happening.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Lilja close to signing for just over 1mil a year for 2 years

2 year/$1.25 million per (which looks reasonably accurate) is a solid deal for Lilja's role on this team.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Chelios close to signing

Hopefully its no more than $650,000 given that he's likely to only play half the season and he made $850,000 last year. However, a good signing if the price is right. You can never have too much depth on your blueline, especially if it comes at a reasonable price.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Zetterberg talks

Z is Lazy and he Sucks! tongue.gif

No surprise here! thumbup.gif

Sidenote: Who was it last year that stated in a thread that Arice89 and I were wrong to think Z could be signed as early as July 1st?

Don't expect Henrik Zetterberg to sign a long-term extension on July 1 like San Jose's Joe Thornton did last year.

He stated that a new deal couldn't be signed before the first day of the season. This article respectfully disagrees with him.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Holland think Howard is ready but still wants to bring in another veteran goalie ??

Time to let Jimmy s*** or get off the pot. I'd rather see them claim a goalie off waivers if Jimmy flops after the first couple months than see them bring in a mediocre goalie that will just be a spot-holder. A spot-holder isn't going to help the Wings' playoff run if Oz gets injured.

QUOTE (DSM @ June 26, 2008 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-Holland wants to offer both Downey and McCarty 2 way deals, but not till July 1st

PERFECT! Exactly what I stated I wanted in the Enforcer thread yesterday. Sign both of them to 2-way deals!

It's amazing how much clarity comes when you care more about the Red Wings than any individual player.


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE (Never Forget Mac #25 @ June 27, 2008 - 09:17AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dats-Z-Homer
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Hudler-Helm-Kopecky

DMac/Downey


I dont see them having Helm play 4th line minutes in regular season, i think theyd rather have him get top line play in GR then they would 4th line in DET.. Just my thoughts. but we'll see.. I can see both scenerios happening.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:17 AM

QUOTE (Dump-N-Thump @ June 27, 2008 - 08:49AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont see them having Helm play 4th line minutes in regular season, i think theyd rather have him get top line play in GR then they would 4th line in DET.. Just my thoughts. but we'll see.. I can see both scenerios happening.

No, you're absolutely right. It was a brainfart on my part (that rhymes).

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:27 AM

Why waste money on a goalie? No one out there except maybe Kolzig would be a worthy addition. Otherwise, we're picking up a goalie with Howard-like talent, wasting cap space. That bugs me for some reason.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:37 AM

QUOTE (Never Forget Mac #25 @ June 27, 2008 - 09:17AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2 year/$1.25 million per (which looks reasonably accurate) is a solid deal for Lilja's role on this team.
That money for an experienced #6 is a solid deal. I guess we'll have to hope that Babs can resist the temptation to slide Lillypad into that open #4 spot.


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:45 AM

It pretty much has to be Lilja, Big Rig or Quincey.. Someone who can clear out the front of the net.. We shall see.. I really enjoyed Lilja last year, I think ever since his Ducks debacle he really got a target on his back, and any chance he gets to become a LGW whipping boy it happens.. Samething with sammy..





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