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#1 stevkrause

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:00 AM

Title pretty much says it all -

Personally, there are a few moves I would like to see to consider this an absolute GRAND SLAM of an off season -

- Sign Pavol Demitra to a 1 or 2 year deal at 3 a year - Demitra is a great faceoff guy, penalty killer, good wheels and has gotta be yearning for that cup - good leadership as well and could be a GREAT mentor to Hudler

- Sign Georges LaRaque to a 1 year deal at about 1 mil at a limited role- Great energy guy, who will go through a wall for teammates - Adds grit and toughness and can still actually chip in for about 30 pts in a year


trade Lebda and/or Quincey for future draft picks

When all is said and done - Here are your 4 lines

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Franzen-Filppula-Cleary
Hudler-Demitra-Samuelsson
Maltby-Draper-Kopecky
Laraque


Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Lilja/Chelios-Lebda/Meech/Quincey (depending on who is dealt)

Osgood
Conklin
Howard

Not too expensive, not too flashy, but I think would just fuel to the fire that is already there and still leave cap room for the future...

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:14 AM

I love the idea of bringing in Laraque at a reasonable amount, and Demitra wouldn't be a bad idea either. I'm not holding out much hope for any more big signings like many here are and that would be a nice lineup that would still leave the Wings plenty of cap room to do as they please at the deadline.

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Edited by Never Forget Mac #25, 02 July 2008 - 10:16 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:18 AM

no thanks on either...

i'm more than happy with McCarty/Downey as our token enforcer and i really don't rate Demitra.

Plus they'res no way we can get him for 3 mill


i'd resign Chelios, trade Qunicy or Meech.

sign a top 6 foward. Maybe Naslund.


But i'd just be as happy if we did nothing other than resign our RFA's...

we're damn well set up already. Best defense in the league by a mile already.

Edited by Cicada, 02 July 2008 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:24 AM

heres what would make it a grand slam offseason to me

resign downey and dmac.....there we go

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (Cicada @ July 2, 2008 - 10:18AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no thanks on either...

i'm more than happy with McCarty/Downey as our token enforcer and i really don't rate Demitra.

Plus they'res no way we can get him for 3 mill


i'd resign Chelios, trade Qunicy or Meech.

sign a top 6 foward. Maybe Naslund.


But i'd just be as happy if we did nothing other than resign our RFA's...

we're damn well set up already. Best defense in the league by a mile already.

I would tend to agree that $3 million is pretty light for Demitra. I certainly wouldn't mind him for even a little higher than that and a 1-year deal, but I don't see it happening.

As for Downey, DMac and Laraque: I believe Kenny already said he's going to offer both of them two-way contracts. The only thing we know for sure is that DMac will be offered some form of a contract given Kenny has stated publicly that he will. As I said, as much as I like Downey, and obviously love DMac, a guy like Laraque offers more and could be had for probably around what DMac and Downey make combined.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:36 AM

Sign Sundin at 7M for one season...

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom
Franzen - Sundin - Filppula
Cleary - Hudler - Samuelsson
Maltby - Draper - Helm
(Downey, McCarty, Kopecky)

Lidstrom - Rafalski
Kronwall - Stuart
Lebda - Lilja
(Chelios, Quincey, Meech)

Osgood
Howard/Conklin


We have ourselves a team.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:39 AM

Trade Hudler for Crosby.

Trade Flip for Ovechkin.

Naturally, both would be willing to play for the league minimum since they'd be so honored to play for the Wings.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (BlakChamber @ July 2, 2008 - 11:39AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trade Hudler for Crosby.

Trade Flip for Ovechkin.

Naturally, both would be willing to play for the league minimum since they'd be so honored to play for the Wings.



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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:52 AM

Wings should forget Sundin, Demitra and Bertuzzi. All these guys will be available in the "rent a player category" by years end. They should go back and Jason Williams for 1.5 to 1.8 mil. Williams was a very good player on the second/third line when with the Wings and may want to come back, I know he felt jadded when he was traded but the Wings have a way of getting folks to come back.

This leaves us plenty of money at years end and for next year when need to lock up Hank and The Mule.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 10:57 AM

I really wanted Rolston, but there was no way this team could give him a 4 year contract at that price($20mil). I'd like to see maybe a Naslund or Avery or Nagy or perhaps...SATAN devil.gif . One or two of those guys would be a nice addition.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (HuntsVegas Baby @ July 2, 2008 - 11:52AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wings should forget Sundin, Demitra and Bertuzzi. All these guys will be available in the "rent a player category" by years end. They should go back and Jason Williams for 1.5 to 1.8 mil. Williams was a very good player on the second/third line when with the Wings and may want to come back, I know he felt jadded when he was traded but the Wings have a way of getting folks to come back.

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Williams is garbage. He was afraid to go to tough areas, especially after the hard hit he took from Torres. He was the kind of player that was responsible for the early exits.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Never Forget Mac #25 @ July 2, 2008 - 11:14AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love the idea of bringing in Laraque at a reasonable amount, and Demitra wouldn't be a bad idea either. I'm not holding out much hope for any more big signings like many here are and that would be a nice lineup that would still leave the Wings plenty of cap room to do as they please at the deadline.

Edit: (Kelsey) Grammar


Laraque? You're kidding right? The guy is slow and has no skill. We already have Downey. 1 low skill guy is more than enough

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (Johnny Diamonds @ July 2, 2008 - 10:57AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really wanted Rolston, but there was no way this team could give him a 4 year contract at that price($20mil). I'd like to see maybe a Naslund or Avery or Nagy or perhaps...SATAN devil.gif . One or two of those guys would be a nice addition.

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It's been a good year or so since we've heard the pitch to bring in Nagy.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:05 AM

Sign Big George Laraque 2y/1.8m
Sign Todd Bertuzzi 2y/3m
Trade Sammy,Hudler and Lebda for Draft Selections/Prospects
Re-Sign Aaron Downey and Darren McCarty..

Flipper - Datsyuk - Homer
Bertuzzi - Zette - Mule
Cleary - Draper - Maltby
Laraque - Kopecky - Downey
*Mac*

MVP - Raffi
Kronner - Stewie
Lilja - Meech
*quincey,cheli*

wishful thinking i know..

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE (chrisdetroit @ July 2, 2008 - 11:02AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Laraque? You're kidding right? The guy is slow and has no skill. We already have Downey. 1 low skill guy is more than enough

2007/2008 Regular Season

Downey:
56 GP, 0G, 3A, 3Pts

Laraque:
71 GP, 4G, 9A, 13Pts

You tell me which of these players has more skill.

Edit: And, no...we don't have Downey, yet.

Edited by Never Forget Mac #25, 02 July 2008 - 11:07 AM.

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"They are the best team in the world. They are a team that can just take over when they want to," Chicago's Patrick Kane said (of the Detroit Red Wings).

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (chrisdetroit @ July 2, 2008 - 12:02PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Laraque? You're kidding right? The guy is slow and has no skill. We already have Downey. 1 low skill guy is more than enough


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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (ARice89 @ July 2, 2008 - 11:00AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Williams is garbage. He was afraid to go to tough areas, especially after the hard hit he took from Torres. He was the kind of player that was responsible for the early exits.


I assume be early exits you mean he plays a light amount of games per season. Wil he has played 201 of a possible 246 possible, thats better than Bertuzzi will give.

He doesn't need to the workhorse,

Besides he was a "Witch" on the shootouts.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (Dump-N-Thump @ July 2, 2008 - 12:05PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sign Big George Laraque 2y/1.8m
Sign Todd Bertuzzi 2y/3m
Trade Sammy,Hudler and Lebda for Draft Selections/Prospects
Re-Sign Aaron Downey and Darren McCarty..

Flipper - Datsyuk - Homer
Bertuzzi - Zette - Mule
Cleary - Draper - Maltby
Laraque - Kopecky - Downey
*Mac*

MVP - Raffi
Kronner - Stewie
Lilja - Meech
*quincey,cheli*

wishful thinking i know..


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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:12 AM

QUOTE (HuntsVegas Baby @ July 2, 2008 - 12:08PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume be early exits you mean he plays a light amount of games per season. Wil he has played 201 of a possible 246 possible, thats better than Bertuzzi will give.

He doesn't need to the workhorse,

Besides he was a "Witch" on the shootouts.


He was reffereing to William's permiter play instead of going in the slot or corners or crashing the net. Without doing one of those 3 you are f***ED in the playoffs/
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:14 AM

Get rid of Downey, pick up Laraque. Sign Hossa for about $.5 mil/year for 7 years. Resign Zburg for 7 years, Hudles, Filp. Spread out all of the rest of the good UFAs around the league so that there aren't any real threats to the Wings dominance. Bring back Shanny. Play Erickson. Lose Lilja.

Oh, and Sundin stays in Toronto.

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